Projecting Dak's New Deal

CowboyRoy

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I'm just trying to figure out where everyone is getting this 30 million mindset from. Is it because of the Cousins contract? Just because Cousins got such a large contract, Dak will?

Plus, I'm sure a lot of people are going to be upset if Dak gets signed to this much money. Plus Stephen Jones is a cheapskate so I'm not sure if he'll let his daddy sign him to that much money.

Reports coming out on the going rate as well as other QB's recently signed.

Dak doenst get a contract based on what the doubters think he should get paid. He gets paid on realistic numbers and what Jones thinks he is worth. Jones is already bragging about how he is going to pay him what he deserves. Not hard to figure these things out.
 

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Reports coming out on the going rate as well as other QB's recently signed.

Dak doenst get a contract based on what the doubters think he should get paid. He gets paid on realistic numbers and what Jones thinks he is worth. Jones is already bragging about how he is going to pay him what he deserves. Not hard to figure these things out.

As stated before: Dak = 30 mil contract = Doomed franchise for 3-5 years.
 

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If I was Dak I wouldn't want to stay in Dallas. He's getting huge money regardless of if he stays or goes, but as long as Garrett is the head coach he'll never be developed to his potential or play in a modern NFL offense.

I mean, if Romo went to play for Andy Reid after McNabb was punted to Washington, he probably has a league MVP on his resume. And the gap between how the Cowboys run their offense vs. the rest of the NFL does it has only widened since then.
 

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Not a troll. I'm actually a Dak supporter. I back him every time someone wants to trash talk him. However, I don't support large contracts. This will spell the end of the Cowboys for a while if they give him a large contract and don't have enough to pay the bigger and better prospects of our offense and defense (Cooper, Zeke, Gallup, Gregory, Lawrence, Jones, LVE, Smith) for years to come.

I dont support them either, but one has to be realistic. There is NO bigger prospect than Dak Prescott. He is the single most important player on this team going forward. Linebackers, corners, RB's, WR's pale in comparison to Dak.

You could pay all those players, but if you havent locked up Dak you can kiss it all goodbye. You are better served playing hardball with the others.
 

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I dont support them either, but one has to be realistic. There is NO bigger prospect than Dak Prescott. He is the single most important player on this team going forward. Linebackers, corners, RB's, WR's pale in comparison to Dak.

You could pay all those players, but if you havent locked up Dak you can kiss it all goodbye. You are better served playing hardball with the others.

Not necessarily. If we pay all those players in the offseason when their contracts are up or when they want an extension, let go of Dak and draft a QB, this team will/would be fine.
 

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Not necessarily. If we pay all those players in the offseason when their contracts are up or when they want an extension, let go of Dak and draft a QB, this team will/would be fine.
:lmao::lmao2::lmao2:

Yep your a troll. Let move on, I dont like talking to Dak trolls.
 

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:lmao::lmao2::lmao2:

Yep your a troll. Let move on, I dont like talking to Dak trolls.
Seriously. If we were to draft Tua or Lawrence later on... you're to tell me that the team would not be as good as the team is with Dak or maybe even better?
 

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Seriously. If we were to draft Tua or Lawrence later on... you're to tell me that the team would not be as good as the team is with Dak or maybe even better?

We have no idea if those guys will pan out in the NFL. The bust rate for "can't miss" QB prospects in the 1st round is like 50%. And of course you have to be able to, you know, draft them, which you can't assume either short of going 0-16 on purpose.

And by "bust" I don't mean Dak-like. I mean "complete failure" like Ryan Leaf.
 

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Says statistics. All of the top paid QB's this year didn't make it to the playoffs. Wanna know why? Cause they didn't have enough money to pay for weapons around said QB's.

Brees isnt top paid? Brady is a bargain at 18 million, are you telling me they won because they saved 12 million? LOL

Goff will get paid when Dak gets paid. Where they are screwed is where they paid a RB 20 million per year that barely played in the playoffs or the SB.

Mahones will break records for a QB in 2 years.

Eagles have a backup they are paying 20 million per season to. Wilson? Should I go on?
 

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Brees isnt top paid? Brady is a bargain at 18 million, are you telling me they won because they saved 12 million? LOL

Goff will get paid when Dak gets paid. Where they are screwed is where they paid a RB 20 million per year that barely played in the playoffs or the SB.

Mahones will break records for a QB in 2 years.

Eagles have a backup they are paying 20 million per season to. Wilson? Should I go on?

You seem to have forgotten Ryan, Stafford, Cousins, Carr, Rodgers, Garappolo, (Alex) Smith.

Need I go on?
 

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Seriously. If we were to draft Tua or Lawrence later on... you're to tell me that the team would not be as good as the team is with Dak or maybe even better?

No, not going forward. Dak is coming into his prime. Fix the Oline and scheme and this team is contender ready for the next 3-5 years.

Bring in some kid and hope he is the leader Dak is and develops? We already have our guy. All you are going to do by doing that is waste the next 3-5 year window with hope.

I would have no problems drafting a guy and developing him and trading the lessor of the two? But Im not mortgaging the next 3 years to do that.
 

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We have no idea if those guys will pan out in the NFL. The bust rate for "can't miss" QB prospects in the 1st round is like 50%. And of course you have to be able to, you know, draft them, which you can't assume either short of going 0-16 on purpose.

And by "bust" I don't mean Dak-like. I mean "complete failure" like Ryan Leaf.

Can't be too bad of an outcome if we have all our current weapons. Also, if we don't play well, that would mean new HC and it would also mean higher draft picks. We could draft some help on the offensive side if we are nervous about the QB being a bust.
 

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You seem to have forgotten Ryan, Stafford, Cousins, Carr, Rodgers, Garappolo, (Alex) Smith.

Need I go on?

Cousins has two of the better WR's in the game and a great TE. Ryan has a great one Two punch at WR and plenty of other weapons. Stafford had 3 good pass catchers and actually traded one away. Carr just plays for the Raiders and they are rebuilding.

Garrapolo got hurt. He could actually use some better weapons.

Anything else you need debunked?
 

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We have no idea if those guys will pan out in the NFL. The bust rate for "can't miss" QB prospects in the 1st round is like 50%. And of course you have to be able to, you know, draft them, which you can't assume either short of going 0-16 on purpose.

And by "bust" I don't mean Dak-like. I mean "complete failure" like Ryan Leaf.

With Dak, it's unlikely we ever get into the top 8 picks in the draft, let alone #1 or #2.
 

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Cousins has two of the better WR's in the game and a great TE. Ryan has a great one Two punch at WR and plenty of other weapons. Stafford had 3 good pass catchers and actually traded one away. Carr just plays for the Raiders and they are rebuilding.

Garrapolo got hurt. He could actually use some better weapons.

Anything else you need debunked?

Raiders have been rebuilding for years. And you did nothing but improve my case. They have all these weapons (in which I haven't heard of any of them from the Lions), yet they still didn't make the playoffs? Why? They. Paid. The. QB. Too. Much.

Like I said before, I want to keep Dak. I really do. But I look at these teams and can't help but feel like we'll be in the same situation if we give him 25 mil+. Like you said before, with Kitna coming in, Moore becoming the OC, and giving Dak, Amari, and even Gallup time to make chemistry during the offseason, he could very well be entering his prime years. But if he asks for that much money, his prime years won't last long without any offensive weapons or a good defense to help him. Look at Patrick Mahomes who fought very hard in the Championship game only to be let down by his defense. Twice. If Dallas can't pay the defense because the QB wanted extensive money, we'll look the same with a lesser explosive offense.
 

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Been saying all alone, I expect his deal to come in around $25M. What's interesting is 2-3 years from now, his deal could actually be a bargain based on the early projection of Goff, Wilson and Mahomes deals. Word is either one could sign deals close to $40M per year within the next couple years.
Good points. If I was Dak I would bet on myself go maybe 3-4 years and really hold the Cowboys for a kings random. Kirk Cousins getting 28mil no one bats an eye
 

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I like this take. As of right now, 22.5 (MAX) mil is a good amount and Dak has played well enough (in my opinion) to have this number. Like Legend has stated, if he doesn't want to do that, let him play the 2019 season and if he steps up, go ahead and give him 25 milly. If not, ask him again for around 20-23 million and if he doesn't want to take it? Unfortunately, I'd let him go.

But we all know Jerry loves Dak for some reason so he won't let him get away.
It's gonna take more than 25M if he plays out the final year and has a great year.
 
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