Cris Carter reacts to Dak expects Cowboys to "pay what's deserved"- FTF

[CATCH17]

The problem with paying Dak is he had 10 games with 1 or less TD passes. 3 of those games he had 0 TD passes. To me those numbers are not franchise QB numbers.

A lot of guys can do this for much cheaper.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The problem with paying Dak is he had 10 games with 1 or less TD passes. 3 of those games he had 0 TD passes. To me those numbers are not franchise QB numbers.

In 1992 Aikman had 10 games with 1 or less TD passes. 4 of those 0 TD passes. Cowboys won the SB.

Guess Aikman wasn't a franchise quarterback, gee, why'd Jerry pay him like one?

Yes I know this isn't 1992, the league is different. But raw stats don't tell the whole story. Elliot was won the rushing title 2 of his 3 years, and probably the only reason he didn't win it his second year is the 6 games missed, at his average for the rest of 2017 for ypc and carries, he'd had have over 1,500 yards, Hunt won the title with 1,327 yards.

The way the Dallas offense is set up Dak, regardless of how good he passes the ball, isn't going to have 40-50 td passes....

 

[Hadenough]

In 1992 Aikman had 10 games with 1 or less TD passes. 4 of those 0 TD passes. Cowboys won the SB.

Guess Aikman wasn't a franchise quarterback, gee, why'd Jerry pay him like one?

Yes I know this isn't 1992, the league is different. But raw stats don't tell the whole story. Elliot was won the rushing title 2 of his 3 years, and probably the only reason he didn't win it his second year is the 6 games missed, at his average for the rest of 2017 for ypc and carries, he'd had have over 1,500 yards, Hunt won the title with 1,327 yards.

The way the Dallas offense is set up Dak, regardless of how good he passes the ball, isn't going to have 40-50 td passes....

Aikman could have 200 yds passing a game and was extremely effective with that defense and running game because of his ability to be flat out cold, handing the ball off 10 times in a row and then throw a quick strike for a 3rd down conversion. Back then the rules didnt favor QBs. You could grab the WR or flat out lay him out if he crosses the middle of the field. Aikman could back the defense up because of his ability regardless if they were a running team or not.
Dallas today has agreat running game that would be even better if Dak could back the defense up. Dak has all the rules in his favor and has the players in his favor and yet he still is inconsistent with more bad than good. Some people fail to see his faults because they look at his stats. 260 yds passing against the Rams sounds respectable until you realize after the opening drive he went 1-10 in 3rd down conversions failing to help his gassed defense which was already struggling to stop the rams. That long run of failed 3rd down conversions pretty much killed the defense for the rest of the game. Dak Prescott had 41 yds passing at halftime and that doesnt include the -2 yd pass and getting sacked for losses.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Aikman could have 200 yds passing a game and was extremely effective with that defense and running game because of his ability to be flat out cold, handing the ball off 10 times in a row and then throw a quick strike for a 3rd down conversion. Back then the rules didnt favor QBs. You could grab the WR or flat out lay him out if he crosses the middle of the field. Aikman could back the defense up because of his ability regardless if they were a running team or not.
Dallas today has agreat running game that would be even better if Dak could back the defense up. Dak has all the rules in his favor and has the players in his favor and yet he still is inconsistent with more bad than good. Some people fail to see his faults because they look at his stats. 260 yds passing against the Rams sounds respectable until you realize after the opening drive he went 1-10 in 3rd down conversions failing to help his gassed defense which was already struggling to stop the rams. That long run of failed 3rd down conversions pretty much killed the defense for the rest of the game. Dak Prescott had 41 yds passing at halftime and that doesnt include the -2 yd pass and getting sacked for losses.

You're the one that brought up Dak's stats, when I pointed out that Aikman had similar stats yet was deemed a franchise quarterback, now you start talking about how rules are different, etc.

So why bring up Dak's stats about 1 and 0 td games if stats don't tell the story?

 

[starcity214]

You're the one that brought up Dak's stats, when I pointed out that Aikman had similar stats yet was deemed a franchise quarterback, now you start talking about how rules are different, etc.

So why bring up Dak's stats about 1 and 0 td games if stats don't tell the story?

When Aikman played, there was no salary cap.

Why can't you understand this?

 

[starcity214]

dallas plays two types of offense. The ball control offense that not only limits dak but Elliot and cooper. Then the uptempo pace that teams just can’t stop. We have seen this over and over again in daks 3 seasons. But it seemed like an only went to the uptempo In desperate situations

Bro

When we go "hurry up" defenses are usually playing off and giving up the underneath stuff so you know Dak feeds on that..

Defenses aren't stupid, look at the Rams game. The Rams gave up all that underneath stuff and Dak took it but we ran out of time. That's the whole point of playing prevent defense. Dak had 44 yards at half time before the Rams went prevent.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think our QB opened his mouth too wide here.

A bit of immaturity here.

I would offer him 3 years @ $6m per.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You're the one that brought up Dak's stats, when I pointed out that Aikman had similar stats yet was deemed a franchise quarterback, now you start talking about how rules are different, etc.

So why bring up Dak's stats about 1 and 0 td games if stats don't tell the story?

Dak is no Aikman lol Sometimes Dak can't hit the side of a barn. Aikman would throw a dart that stuck to your chest.

 

[Redline360]

Comparing Dak to Aikman....

This thread is starting to scare me now

 

[natedoug]

I think 20-23 mil would be the best range to get Dak. Any cheaper would be great of course. But his market value is probably around there.

Unfortunately there are a bunch of overpaid QB’s in the league. It’s unfortunate but it’s the way it is.

BINGO !!!!

 

[Bobhaze]

Like any other “market based” sports position, Dak will get paid what the market dictates. Sure stats and age and accomplishments are all involved. But whether any of us like it or not, this is a QB driven league. And Dak Prescott in his 3 years as a Cowboy has proven enough that he will get a big market based payday. He’s not a top 10 QB, but he’s not a bottom feeder either.

I don’t resent a nickel any of these guys make. They have a relatively very short time to make the most money they will probably ever earn in their lives. And they play under risk of permanent physical damage. If we should resent anyone, it’s the NFL owners who have the real greed. The seat liscences, the ticket prices, parking, etc and a commissioner who is their personal errand boy rather than a guardian of the game, and on and on.

Dak will be gone someday in the not too distant future. I support any NFL decent player getting paid whatever they can get in the market. QBs are the highest paid players in this league and Dak has been playing for relative chump change for three years.

He’s gonna get paid whether any of us here like it or not.

 

[Kaiser]

And Dak Prescott in his 3 years as a Cowboy has proven enough that he will get a big market based payday. He’s not a top 10 QB, but he’s not a bottom feeder either.

Dallas is a big market team in terms of paying in house players. And if Dak is already a middle third QB, why would Dallas let him walk?

 

[KMY_Amber]

Comparing Dak to Aikman....

This thread is starting to scare me now

LMAO You knew it was coming...

 

[Hadenough]

Like any other “market based” sports position, Dak will get paid what the market dictates. Sure stats and age and accomplishments are all involved. But whether any of us like it or not, this is a QB driven league. And Dak Prescott in his 3 years as a Cowboy has proven enough that he will get a big market based payday. He’s not a top 10 QB, but he’s not a bottom feeder either.

I don’t resent a nickel any of these guys make. They have a relatively very short time to make the most money they will probably ever earn in their lives. And they play under risk of permanent physical damage. If we should resent anyone, it’s the NFL owners who have the real greed. The seat liscences, the ticket prices, parking, etc and a commissioner who is their personal errand boy rather than a guardian of the game, and on and on.

Dak will be gone someday in the not too distant future. I support any NFL decent player getting paid whatever they can get in the market. QBs are the highest paid players in this league and Dak has been playing for relative chump change for three years.

He’s gonna get paid whether any of us here like it or not.

This is a tough spot because Dak does deserve to get paid but at what point does a team say look your a decent QB but we have stacked team and we think with a slightly better QB we can win a SB.

 

[Bobhaze]

This is a tough spot because Dak does deserve to get paid but at what point does a team say look your a decent QB but we have stacked team and we think with a slightly better QB we can win a SB.

I understand your point. The problem is, and it’s a big one- finding a “slightly better” QB is extremely difficult in the NFL. A starting QB who has a future is rarely available in FA and a trade for a good QB would cost the farm in draft picks and/or players. It’s extremely difficult and it’s why a ton of NFL teams are almost always looking for a QB.

 

[LatinMind]

Bro

When we go "hurry up" defenses are usually playing off and giving up the underneath stuff so you know Dak feeds on that..

Defenses aren't stupid, look at the Rams game. The Rams gave up all that underneath stuff and Dak took it but we ran out of time. That's the whole point of playing prevent defense. Dak had 44 yards at half time before the Rams went prevent.

Rams never went prevent. They played a base defense zone. The whole game. Considering dak had over 100 yards passing at half time I’d say you’re lying about his stats

 

[Bobhaze]

Dallas is a big market team in terms of paying in house players. And if Dak is already a middle third QB, why would Dallas let him walk?

They won’t let him walk IMO. The only question that remains is how much Dak will get.

 

[Kevinicus]

Like any other “market based” sports position, Dak will get paid what the market dictates. Sure stats and age and accomplishments are all involved. But whether any of us like it or not, this is a QB driven league. And Dak Prescott in his 3 years as a Cowboy has proven enough that he will get a big market based payday. He’s not a top 10 QB, but he’s not a bottom feeder either.

I don’t resent a nickel any of these guys make. They have a relatively very short time to make the most money they will probably ever earn in their lives. And they play under risk of permanent physical damage. If we should resent anyone, it’s the NFL owners who have the real greed. The seat liscences, the ticket prices, parking, etc and a commissioner who is their personal errand boy rather than a guardian of the game, and on and on.

Dak will be gone someday in the not too distant future. I support any NFL decent player getting paid whatever they can get in the market. QBs are the highest paid players in this league and Dak has been playing for relative chump change for three years.

He’s gonna get paid whether any of us here like it or not.

A lot of the time (in all things, not just football), paying "market" value is very very stupid, and should only be for those who have a lot of resources to waste.

 

[GoJacks]

I'd let him hit the open market.

There is no way he would leave Dallas and I don't think there would be a big market for Dak Prescott.

No need to compete against ourselves on this one. Pay him top dollar according to the market and if some team is dumb enough to give him a huge contract then let him walk.

8-10 million a year with no guaranteed money.

 

[CF74]