No they aren't. As always qb will be the single hardest position to keep stocked in the NFL. And yes the absolute size of qb contracts continues to grow. But so does the cap. As a percentage of cap we are where we have been for a long time.
Tony signed his extension in 2013 and had 55mm guaranteed. The cap was 123mm. That's 45% of cap.
Cousins signed for 84mm guaranteed in 2018. The cap last year was 177mm. That's 47% of cap.
Nothing is any different now than it was going on a decade ago.
I wish people would do some critical thinking before making declarations like QBs will be devalued and paid less in the future.
Owners want to win, this gives the players all the leverage. As long as the cap keeps going up so will the pay for key positions.Back up QBs are making more $$$ than guys like Aikman and Montana did in their hay days.I think everything runs in cycles, and the QB market has become such a high percentage of the cap that eventually the pendulum will have to swing back the other way.
Running backs were considered the franchise player 20 years ago. Then over time the position became devalued. Now it seems to be going back the other way.
It's one thing to have Tom Brady eating up 10 to 15 percent of your cap, but it's a very different matter if you have Andy Dalton eating up 75 percent of that.
Does a team with Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, Case Keenam, or the like have a high probability of beating a Brady led team? Probably not, in large part to the QB deficit.
Teams are winning SBs with QBs on their rookie deals. Russell Wilson is a recent example of it, as was Ruthlessraper. Dak won 13 games as a rookie. That just goes to show you that if you surround a young QB with a lot of talent he can win.
Conversely, if you pay a QB to carry your team, he had better be able to carry the team. I like Dak Prescott, even though I think Tony should have been the QB when he was healthy. I'm still a Dak fan. But to pay Dak $30M per year would be beyond stupid.
Offer Dak a good deal. $20M per year for 3 years total is plenty. Then they can check out his contract again in two years. If Dak won't go for that, make him play for peanuts this year and if he looks like he is going to sit out, draft a QB early.
If Dak wants outrageous money (he may not be looking for outrageous money) play him and tag him twice. But realistically, there is no way a team is going to be able to afford to sign a player after that second tag, because all of the leverage goes to the player at that point.
Owners want to win, this gives the players all the leverage. As long as the cap keeps going up so will the pay for key positions.Back up QBs are making more $$$ than guys like Aikman and Montana did in their hay days.
Yes, I should have said Wentz/Foles.Wentz made it to the Super Bowl? When?
Math, ain't it a booger?No they aren't. As always qb will be the single hardest position to keep stocked in the NFL. And yes the absolute size of qb contracts continues to grow. But so does the cap. As a percentage of cap we are where we have been for a long time.
Tony signed his extension in 2013 and had 55mm guaranteed. The cap was 123mm. That's 45% of cap.
Cousins signed for 84mm guaranteed in 2018. The cap last year was 177mm. That's 47% of cap.
Nothing is any different now than it was going on a decade ago.
I wish people would do some critical thinking before making declarations like QBs will be devalued and paid less in the future.
Agree but double that of the closest and possibly the better player is pushing it. Some of these highly paid QB's are not even in the top 3-5 best players on the team. There is a shortage of Tier 1's so Tier 2's get Tier 1 money.I can't imagine a scenario where the most important position on the field isn't also the best paid.
And tier 1's are getting stupid money due to importance of position!!!!Agree but double that of the closest and possibly the better player is pushing it. Some of these highly paid QB's are not even in the top 3-5 best players on the team. There is a shortage of Tier 1's so Tier 2's get Tier 1 money.
Prescott is going to get a massive contract.
Unkle Jerry took care of that a while back.
I think teams would like to do that but I don't think it will happen.
Many GMs need to win now to keep their jobs.
How many QBs that make it to the Super Bowl are not either a high draft pick or high paid veteran?
Brady - 27M cap hit in 2018 despite "bargain" contract.
Goff - Top 5 pick.
Wentz - Top 5 pick
Russell Wilson is the only one that comes to mind in recent years that was not a 1st round pick and still on his rookie contract.
Good teams
Want to go for it while they're good plus they have a bottom of the 1st pick.
Middle of the Road teams
Don't have a top 10 pick but if they're middle of the road and need a QB, then they probably have a good roster other than QB. They either need to trade up or pay for a veteran QB. Trading up to top 5 requires many draft picks.
Bad Teams
If they need a QB, they'll draft one; although not always (Cleveland in 2017, Giants in 2018).
I think some teams will take the approach of building up the non-QB talent on the roster before adding the high pick or expensive veteran QB.
In the past bad teams have used high picks on QBs and then dumped then into a terrible roster. By the time the roster is good, that QB is getting close to free agency.
I get your pointNo they aren't. As always qb will be the single hardest position to keep stocked in the NFL. And yes the absolute size of qb contracts continues to grow. But so does the cap. As a percentage of cap we are where we have been for a long time.
Tony signed his extension in 2013 and had 55mm guaranteed. The cap was 123mm. That's 45% of cap.
Cousins signed for 84mm guaranteed in 2018. The cap last year was 177mm. That's 47% of cap.
Nothing is any different now than it was going on a decade ago.
I wish people would do some critical thinking before making declarations like QBs will be devalued and paid less in the future.
I think 20 is fair
I wouldn’t mind building in some incentives to make it better if he earns them
The QB contracts are crazy and some day they may swing back but barring a change in the CBA I don’t see it changing anytime soon
The rules favor the passing game so much I think it is a big part of it being a passing league
Pass rushers and pass throwers get paid huge money
I can't imagine a scenario where the most important position on the field isn't also the best paid.
No they aren't. As always qb will be the single hardest position to keep stocked in the NFL. And yes the absolute size of qb contracts continues to grow. But so does the cap. As a percentage of cap we are where we have been for a long time.
Tony signed his extension in 2013 and had 55mm guaranteed. The cap was 123mm. That's 45% of cap.
Cousins signed for 84mm guaranteed in 2018. The cap last year was 177mm. That's 47% of cap.
Nothing is any different now than it was going on a decade ago.
I wish people would do some critical thinking before making declarations like QBs will be devalued and paid less in the future.
The only cycle we have seen is QB's get paid more than everyone else even as the cap goes up every year; if I am wrong about this please share. I dont get why fans care; but Dak deserves to get paid. 20 mil is only 3 million more than Romo got on his big contract back in 2013 after leading his team to 3 straight 8-8 seasons. Not only has the cap gone up significantly since then but Dak the last 3 seasons has led his team to the second most wins in the NFL since he has been in the NFL.I think everything runs in cycles, and the QB market has become such a high percentage of the cap that eventually the pendulum will have to swing back the other way.
Running backs were considered the franchise player 20 years ago. Then over time the position became devalued. Now it seems to be going back the other way.
It's one thing to have Tom Brady eating up 10 to 15 percent of your cap, but it's a very different matter if you have Andy Dalton eating up 75 percent of that.
Does a team with Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, Case Keenam, or the like have a high probability of beating a Brady led team? Probably not, in large part to the QB deficit.
Teams are winning SBs with QBs on their rookie deals. Russell Wilson is a recent example of it, as was Ruthlessraper. Dak won 13 games as a rookie. That just goes to show you that if you surround a young QB with a lot of talent he can win.
Conversely, if you pay a QB to carry your team, he had better be able to carry the team. I like Dak Prescott, even though I think Tony should have been the QB when he was healthy. I'm still a Dak fan. But to pay Dak $30M per year would be beyond stupid.
Offer Dak a good deal. $20M per year for 3 years total is plenty. Then they can check out his contract again in two years. If Dak won't go for that, make him play for peanuts this year and if he looks like he is going to sit out, draft a QB early.
If Dak wants outrageous money (he may not be looking for outrageous money) play him and tag him twice. But realistically, there is no way a team is going to be able to afford to sign a player after that second tag, because all of the leverage goes to the player at that point.
IDK man. Problem is, if you don't have a Qb, you got nuthin'. And since starter quality QB's are rare, even the 15-25 range gets paid handsomely.