Amari Cooper and the Antonio Brown Trade

Brooksey

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Some have said that "Gruden has replaced Amari Cooper and two mid-round picks with Antonio Brown and a first-rounder. That's a ridiculous upgrade" but is it really? Let's break it down.

Amari Cooper (24 year old) Top 5 Pick was traded for a Late 1st rounder= Massive fail. Based on what he did in Dallas after he left, the Raiders and Gruden had massive egg on their face

Antonio Brown (31 Year Old) was acquired for a 3rd and 5th round pick and paid $50 million dollars just to attempt to remove the egg that's on their face from the Cooper trade. Problem with the trade is AB is older, he has an attitude problem and the trade does not fit the Raider Model of rebuilding. Production wise Antonio Brown who was catching 100-120 balls a year with 12-15 TD's will probably be a 70-80 catch guy in Oakland and score 7-10 TD's next year and then down from there. He may breakout in the first season to prove himself but by the time the Raiders get to Las Vegas in 2020, AB will be 32 and clearly on the back 9 of his career, not a great situation for the Las Vegas Raiders. They paid for past production. They will roll into Vegas with the "Oldest" WR tandem in the NFL 35 year old Jordy Nelson and 32 year old Antonio Brown. Would have been awesome back in 2015, great work Gruden.

In the end:

Raiders Lose - 24 year old Amari Cooper (Top 5 Pick), 3rd round pick, 5th Round Pick

Raiders Gain - Late 1st rounder and an aging 31 year old veteran with a $50 Million dollar contract

EPIC FAIL
 

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Yes Amari has been amazing for us but in Oakland Amari was basically good....not great he had his moments

So for them it’s an upgrade I mean it’s antonio brown
 

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You Know Amari is paying special attention to the specifics of that deal Brown is about to get...


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The Brown move is all about short term results. They will be out of that contract in two years. But the move helps them to remain relevant while they stock pile assets and young talent. They will probably be very active in FA too with players they only intend to pay the guaranteed amount too
 

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Would make sense for the Raiders if they were close to contention but they are going to stay in the cellar until they realize Gruden is a fraud. Brown would’ve made more sense for us if we didn’t already have enough turds and no one that can reign them in.
Amari may not be quite as good as Brown, but makes a ton more sense for us and for the longer term with him only 24 and still rising in skills. Raiders may get 2-3 years out of Brown.
So I agree with some above, this move reeked of an attempt to save face after the Cooper AND the Mack trades left them looking like utter fools.
The difference between Chip Kelly’s and Gruden?
One has a ring but both will be in the dustbin of former NFL failed coaches soon.
 

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They picked up another top 5 receiver and a 1st round pick. What they do with the pick will determine the value of the deal.

Ultimately if Gruden uses these three 1st round picks wisely with veteran acquisitions like this he’ll quickly turn it around in Oakland assuming Carr is still what we thought he was a couple years ago.
 

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They picked up another top 5 receiver and a 1st round pick. What they do with the pick will determine the value of the deal.

Ultimately if Gruden uses these three 1st round picks wisely with veteran acquisitions like this he’ll quickly turn it around in Oakland assuming Carr is still what we thought he was a couple years ago.

They also lost a top 5 pick and picked up a 31 year old with a 50 million dollar contract
 

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Some have said that "Gruden has replaced Amari Cooper and two mid-round picks with Antonio Brown and a first-rounder. That's a ridiculous upgrade" but is it really? Let's break it down.

Amari Cooper (24 year old) Top 5 Pick was traded for a Late 1st rounder= Massive fail. Based on what he did in Dallas after he left, the Raiders and Gruden had massive egg on their face

Antonio Brown (31 Year Old) was acquired for a 3rd and 5th round pick and paid $50 million dollars just to attempt to remove the egg that's on their face from the Cooper trade. Problem with the trade is AB is older, he has an attitude problem and the trade does not fit the Raider Model of rebuilding. Production wise Antonio Brown who was catching 100-120 balls a year with 12-15 TD's will probably be a 70-80 catch guy in Oakland and score 7-10 TD's next year and then down from there. He may breakout in the first season to prove himself but by the time the Raiders get to Las Vegas in 2020, AB will be 32 and clearly on the back 9 of his career, not a great situation for the Las Vegas Raiders. They paid for past production. They will roll into Vegas with the "Oldest" WR tandem in the NFL 35 year old Jordy Nelson and 32 year old Antonio Brown. Would have been awesome back in 2015, great work Gruden.

In the end:

Raiders Lose - 24 year old Amari Cooper (Top 5 Pick), 3rd round pick, 5th Round Pick

Raiders Gain - Late 1st rounder and an aging 31 year old veteran with a $50 Million dollar contract

EPIC FAIL
Typical Gruden. Replaces young players with older vets hoping for magic still left in the tank of their legend and myth. And dont get me wrong Brown may very well be great with the Raiders but 50 mil for a 31 year old WR that may have been made by his hall of fame caliber QB is a heck of a risk when David Carr is not close to Big Ben. Magic, myth and legend can only take you so far.

At least with Cooper we had a half of season to see if he had chemistry with Dak. Heck now that I think about it the Raiders cant be sure of who their QB will be at the beginning of next season. Im sure Brown could care less.....he's paid.
 
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Some have said that "Gruden has replaced Amari Cooper and two mid-round picks with Antonio Brown and a first-rounder. That's a ridiculous upgrade" but is it really? Let's break it down.

Amari Cooper (24 year old) Top 5 Pick was traded for a Late 1st rounder= Massive fail. Based on what he did in Dallas after he left, the Raiders and Gruden had massive egg on their face

Antonio Brown (31 Year Old) was acquired for a 3rd and 5th round pick and paid $50 million dollars just to attempt to remove the egg that's on their face from the Cooper trade. Problem with the trade is AB is older, he has an attitude problem and the trade does not fit the Raider Model of rebuilding. Production wise Antonio Brown who was catching 100-120 balls a year with 12-15 TD's will probably be a 70-80 catch guy in Oakland and score 7-10 TD's next year and then down from there. He may breakout in the first season to prove himself but by the time the Raiders get to Las Vegas in 2020, AB will be 32 and clearly on the back 9 of his career, not a great situation for the Las Vegas Raiders. They paid for past production. They will roll into Vegas with the "Oldest" WR tandem in the NFL 35 year old Jordy Nelson and 32 year old Antonio Brown. Would have been awesome back in 2015, great work Gruden.

In the end:

Raiders Lose - 24 year old Amari Cooper (Top 5 Pick), 3rd round pick, 5th Round Pick

Raiders Gain - Late 1st rounder and an aging 31 year old veteran with a $50 Million dollar contract

EPIC FAIL
On the face of it..

we did seem to gain.

But that remains to be seen.

AB is a dominant WR and I need to see more of Amari.

One issue for Amari in Oakland was their lack of a good running game or a complimentary WR to take some of the pressure off Cooper.

Hopefully we have those barring more injuries.

We shall see.
 

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On the face of it..

we did seem to gain.

But that remains to be seen.

AB is a dominant WR and I need to see more of Amari.

One issue for Amari in Oakland was their lack of a good running game or a complimentary WR to take some of the pressure off Cooper.

Hopefully we have those barring more injuries.

We shall see.

Oakland needs a home run with the late 1st round pick they acquired from us to make this pan out. AB "was" dominant but he's turning 31 in July and for $50 Million and two draft picks this seems like a reach, IMO
 
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