Interesting Cowboys Rumors Regarding Odell and Sean Payton

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If they wanted to fire Garrett, they would have. Payton or no Payton.

They arent satisfied with the job Garrett is doing. That much is clear. But they also arent convinced he can take this team where they want to go. Garrett is coaching for his job. He isnt a true

Frankly I think he should have bee fired. Wouldnt be the first time a coach got fired after a playoff season. Shottenhiemer got fired coming of a 13-3 year. They are being too passive with Garrett. You have had him long enough to know whether he can or cant take you where you want to go
 

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I was assured Sean Payton would be the Cowboy coach this year by a number of people on CZ. So saying it’s a good bet he’s gonna do it next year means little.
There has to be a Cowboys coaching job available if Sean Payton is going to fill it. So what made you think that was remotely possible. The people on CZ don't know what they are talking about half the time, why would you give what they say any credence?
 

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If they wanted to fire Garrett, they would have. Payton or no Payton.

They arent satisfied with the job Garrett is doing. That much is clear. But they also arent convinced he can take this team where they want to go. Garrett is coaching for his job. He isnt a true

Frankly I think he should have bee fired. Wouldnt be the first time a coach got fired after a playoff season. Shottenhiemer got fired coming of a 13-3 year. They are being too passive with Garrett. You have had him long enough to know whether he can or cant take you where you want to go

Actually, Marty's Chargers went 14-2 and had the Patriots beat until a DB went from hero to goat
in the span of one play. Then they fired Marty... smh.
 

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Maybe. But it's bad business.

Feels like Ryan. I think the Claiborne/Carr buys were all him getting the best available for his defense, instead of getting the most out of those resources.

If someone is potentially short time, why let him spend resources for his short term interests, instead of your own long term interests?
Sometimes you hit and sometimes it doesn't work. Trading for Cooper worked and should be our number 1 receiver for years to come regardless of HC.
 

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I don't know what OBJ expected. Did he honestly think the Giants would trade him to us? I would very much like to see him here. However, I can't imagine the Giants trading him to us. For one thing, the NY media would explode. Now, perhaps after a few years in Cleveland, we might be able to get him.
 

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The people on CZ don't know what they are talking about half the time,
The funny thing is Jerry and the front office are usually a year late with what the fans say! This is just another reason some of us would do a better job making decisions for the team than Jerry!
Jerry got lucky hiring Jimmy when he first bought the team! Since then he hasnt done squat! Just confirmation how football dumb he is! Jerry needs to stop running this team like a mom and pop business.
 

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Makes sense about Payton and them just saving up for next year and taking the L this season.
i simply can't get into players doing this to garrett after all these years. for this to even be a remote possibility all this has to fall into place:

1) the jones' must agree to lose. never seen that in them.
2) garrett must agree to coach them to a loss. however, given his past yo-yo history, maybe they're keeping him in the dark and just letting his natural ability take over to a great 5-11 campo'esque season.
3) key players must agree to give up a year of their career so they can play badly and have that effect them on the next round of contract negotiations.
4) key lower level coaches must be clued in to this 8-men out scenario to help ensure we stay on the bad track
5) every one of these people has to keep it quiet
6) every one of the people who said HELL NO to doing this would also need to keep it quiet.

i simply don't see all that happenin.
 

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These are fun little tidbits that might be a nice distraction from the chaos of free agency on CZ.

The Cowboys were amongst Odell’s top choices for teams to be traded to, one reason was his desire to play with Dak.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-notes-odell-beckham-browns-giants/

Teddy Bridgewater is getting cold feet about resigning with the Saints because he fears Sean Payton will leave to be the Cowboys HC in 2020.

https://nfltraderumors.co/sean-payton-to-cowboys-rumors-a-factor-in-teddy-bridgewaters-decision/

Interesting stuff indeed

Stop reading BS that some fantasy writer dreams up. OBJ would have been on suicide watch and dividing the locker room after 4 games with dumpster Dak passing and Saints will have Payton extended by the end of this season. You think personality like Sean Payton is coming to a team just to let a withered senile owner tell him how to run a team? SMH
 

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There has to be a Cowboys coaching job available if Sean Payton is going to fill it. So what made you think that was remotely possible. The people on CZ don't know what they are talking about half the time, why would you give what they say any credence?

It came from a source of some kind. The logic just isn’t there, even if Garrett does get fired. He has a better job.
 

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The funny thing is Jerry and the front office are usually a year late with what the fans say! This is just another reason some of us would do a better job making decisions for the team than Jerry!
Jerry got lucky hiring Jimmy when he first bought the team! Since then he hasnt done squat! Just confirmation how football dumb he is! Jerry needs to stop running this team like a mom and pop business.
He's doing a better job than you give him credit for doing.
 

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i simply can't get into players doing this to garrett after all these years. for this to even be a remote possibility all this has to fall into place:

1) the jones' must agree to lose. never seen that in them.
2) garrett must agree to coach them to a loss. however, given his past yo-yo history, maybe they're keeping him in the dark and just letting his natural ability take over to a great 5-11 campo'esque season.
3) key players must agree to give up a year of their career so they can play badly and have that effect them on the next round of contract negotiations.
4) key lower level coaches must be clued in to this 8-men out scenario to help ensure we stay on the bad track
5) every one of these people has to keep it quiet
6) every one of the people who said HELL NO to doing this would also need to keep it quiet.

i simply don't see all that happenin.

They have loads of cap space and they aren't going to upgrade the team except with rookies and no first rounder.

They didn't extend Garrett and they gave Kellen Moore the OC job by default.

It just doesn't scream like they are trying to win a championship. More like status quo or worse is what they are shooting for.
 

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It came from a source of some kind. The logic just isn’t there, even if Garrett does get fired. He has a better job.
So what! There are a lot of "sources" that say all kinds of crap. Why give it credence until it's official? Payton can make up his own mind where he'd rather coach. Just because you have a preference on which job is better doesn't make it so.
 

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Dallas isnt going to tank any season. And if they do go after Payton they will need to give the saints compensation because he's on contract thru 2020.
No reason to tank when this organization has excelled delivering a mediocre season for ever and a day.
 

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So what! There are a lot of "sources" that say all kinds of crap. Why give it credence until it's official? Payton can make up his own mind where he'd rather coach. Just because you have a preference on which job is better doesn't make it so.

I’m speaking objectively. He means something to the saints, to New Orleans. He’s not the GM but he has real power in that organization. If he went to Dallas he’d just be Jerry’s HC #8
 

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Sean Payton without Drew Brees might be Garrett 2.0.

Remember, he got fired in New York.

By an incompetent buffoon who soon after never found work in the league again.

That's not an indictment on Sean Payton, it's a compliment.
 

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Two of our best receivers walked away from Dak, and a guy that demands the ball more than anyone wanted to come here? k
 
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