WR group coming together?

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With Austin re-signing, I dont expect any more WR moves other than a Cooper extension and a possible draft pick. Looks like this is the group: Austin, Brown, Cooper, Gallup, Hurns, Wilson.

Cooper and Gallup make a nice 1-2 punch. I'm feeling good about the top two.

Brown offers things in the passing game but he always felt under utilized by Linehan so I dont really know what we have in him but he seems like good depth at least.

Hurns and Austin dont excite me much but they can come out of the slot. Under KM, I expect to see Cooper doing this more. I like Austin in PR, our best since Dwayne Harris.

That leaves Wilson. There was a hype thread about him recently which led me to dig up old articles on him and I'm excited for what he could bring. Other than that he missed his rookie year and so it's not fair to set high expectations.

Overall I feel good about the group. There's a chance a draft pick comes in but I'm also ok with spending the picks elsewhere and leaving room for Dak, Cooper, Gallup, and Wilson to develop together.

What are your opinions?
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.
I was shocked to say the least to hear that they picked up Hurns' option coming off a disappointing year and injury. But KD Drummond explained why it's actually not a bad move:

  1. "Activating Hurns’ option doesn’t guarantee any of his 2019 salary, and he already counted against the cap in every projection.​
  2. He will still need to be on the roster the first game of the season to guarantee his $4 million base salary. His $1 million in per-game roster bonuses will depend on how many times he suits up.​
  3. If the team gets to training camp and sees they have a better solution at their disposal they can take it. Whether they decline the option in March, or cut him in July, the $1.25 million dead money from his signing bonus will be on the books regardless. So why not find out if he can still help the club?"

Sounds like he's an insurance policy, with an easy exit in case value at WR does fall into their lap on draft day.
 

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Wilson is the wild card we don’t know about, but even if he works out he’s still like lumpy to go throw growing pains since he will essentially be playing his rookie season. I would be fine with one solid veteran - doesn’t have to be a star, just a dependable guy we could count on for 500-700 yards.
 

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I was shocked to say the least to hear that they picked up Hurns' option coming off a disappointing year and injury. But KD Drummond explained why it's actually not a bad move:

  1. "Activating Hurns’ option doesn’t guarantee any of his 2019 salary, and he already counted against the cap in every projection.​
  2. He will still need to be on the roster the first game of the season to guarantee his $4 million base salary. His $1 million in per-game roster bonuses will depend on how many times he suits up.​
  3. If the team gets to training camp and sees they have a better solution at their disposal they can take it. Whether they decline the option in March, or cut him in July, the $1.25 million dead money from his signing bonus will be on the books regardless. So why not find out if he can still help the club?"

Sounds like he's an insurance policy, with an easy exit in case value at WR does fall into their lap on draft day.

Fantastic post.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.

Yea, I agree. To be honest, Cooper and Gallup would probably benefit by getting more snaps in the slot, but we need a red zone target.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.

My understanding is the though we picked up Hurns' option, nothing is guaranteed.

Maybe they're sold on him. Maybe they're just not throwing away his rights. If they hate him this summer, they can cut him, no harm, no foul.

With us bringing back a number of guys on offense who produced little, I'm wondering if the team thinks they produced little because Linehan didn't use them much.

Hurns is a funny one, as his per target numbers completely flipped positively after week 6.
 

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Was he? He was IR’d on July 31. Camp started on July 26
Thanks for looking that up. I’ve read comments numerous times about how great he was looking in camp, and I never remembered that. Maybe people were thinking of reports from OTAs. Hopefully he has the potential some think, but to me he’s a big unknown at this point.
 

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With Austin re-signing, I dont expect any more WR moves other than a Cooper extension and a possible draft pick. Looks like this is the group: Austin, Brown, Cooper, Gallup, Hurns, Wilson.

Cooper and Gallup make a nice 1-2 punch. I'm feeling good about the top two.

Brown offers things in the passing game but he always felt under utilized by Linehan so I dont really know what we have in him but he seems like good depth at least.

Hurns and Austin dont excite me much but they can come out of the slot. Under KM, I expect to see Cooper doing this more. I like Austin in PR, our best since Dwayne Harris.

That leaves Wilson. There was a hype thread about him recently which led me to dig up old articles on him and I'm excited for what he could bring. Other than that he missed his rookie year and so it's not fair to set high expectations.

Overall I feel good about the group. There's a chance a draft pick comes in but I'm also ok with spending the picks elsewhere and leaving room for Dak, Cooper, Gallup, and Wilson to develop together.

What are your opinions?

Overall, I'm pretty happy with that group. Rather than having one 'designated hitter' working out of the slot in Beasley, it looks like they're going to go with a more flexible 'slot-by-committee' approach. And I'm good with that actually because with flexibility comes the ability to do different things there. Beasley was great in that role, but he was limited as well.

What I would like to see is this team acquire Duke Johnson (rather than watching the Eagles do it and facing him twice a year). Not only would he be a capable backup for Zeke, but he offers a lot in the passing game as well, particularly in the slot. That's gives the team even more options and versatility.
 

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Same group as last year minus Beasley.

Hurns did nothing when healthy and coming off a broken leg.
Austin- will miss 6 games with an injury.

Brown- used mostly as a blocker, moved all over the formation but rarely got a target.

Wilson- injured all year.

Besides our 2 starters we lack real talent here. Hope Moore is the answer as the OC but only time will tell in games.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.
Agree
The draft is the way to address WR now but if Gallup can take another step we can be pretty solid at WR. If Wilson can contribute, and they can find a way for Austin to contribute we can be pretty good, then you add another guy in the draft and we’ve come full circle at WR
Just imagine early last year it was a major weakness that could, with a little luck and a trade, turn into a strength
 

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Right now, today, our receiver group and TE group are much superior to what we actually went into last season with, even if we don’t make a single move. I’m sure we will still be open to receiver and TE if a great fit is sitting there at any point in the draft. But Witten and the young guys with a year of experience, Cooper with Gallup and Wilson in 2nd year, and Austin with a year in the system, we are already a better offense than last year....not to mention Williams and Fleming on the OL in second year with Dallas...Williams with a year of training.

I’m excited about the offense and the draft, which is likely to emphasize DL and secondary.
 

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With Austin re-signing, I dont expect any more WR moves other than a Cooper extension and a possible draft pick. Looks like this is the group: Austin, Brown, Cooper, Gallup, Hurns, Wilson.

Cooper and Gallup make a nice 1-2 punch. I'm feeling good about the top two.

Brown offers things in the passing game but he always felt under utilized by Linehan so I dont really know what we have in him but he seems like good depth at least.

Hurns and Austin dont excite me much but they can come out of the slot. Under KM, I expect to see Cooper doing this more. I like Austin in PR, our best since Dwayne Harris.

That leaves Wilson. There was a hype thread about him recently which led me to dig up old articles on him and I'm excited for what he could bring. Other than that he missed his rookie year and so it's not fair to set high expectations.

Overall I feel good about the group. There's a chance a draft pick comes in but I'm also ok with spending the picks elsewhere and leaving room for Dak, Cooper, Gallup, and Wilson to develop together.

What are your opinions?

Once again like last season I will lobby for Austin to make a big impact on offense. I believe the young Kellen Moore will put him to good use.

Austin didnt get as many chances and I blame linehan.

I'm back at it. I believe in austin.
 
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