Bucs sign Shaq Barrett

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It is if you are only playing the guy on clear passing downs, and the player is used to lining up on the line of scrimmage with his hand on the ground. It’s not if you want a more well rounded DE or if the pass rusher is used to attacking as a blitzer. In any case, 3-4 sacks a year isn’t special for either type.

You're talking about differences in the player, not the position. You can have a 3-4 OLB that's is a pass rushing specialist same as 4-3 DE. The only real difference is you typically wont see a 4-3 DE in coverage.
 

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Teams play nickel 70% of downs. Edge is edge on 70% of downs.

In a 3-4 you have oversized DEs that can take on the big OTs and seal the edge against the run, so the pass rushing OLBs like Barrett have a little more freedom to attack from different angles whether on the line or blitzinng from behind the line. In a 4-3 the Barrett would have to be a down lineman,period, and smaller guys are much less able to take on a big OT to do that.

And, again, even aside from all that, Barrett is still just a 3-4 sack player, so what extra would he bring to the table anyway?
 

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You will get Taco Charlton for 16 games and you'll enjoy all three of those sacks.
so 5(4 yrs played) years 14 sacks is how different than Taco? if TaCO GETS a lot more snaps now with Gregory out im sure he can squeeze out 3.5 sacks..your diss is laughable.. its the same and that defense with all those players funneling sacks to Shaq he should have had more..not saying he couldn't help us but theres reason they let him go and hes only getiing 1yr 5mil..he isnt much more of players then Taco..
 

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You're talking about differences in the player, not the position. You can have a 3-4 OLB that's is a pass rushing specialist same as 4-3 DE. The only real difference is you typically wont see a 4-3 DE in coverage.

Using him as a pass rushing specialist is what i was saying about using him only on clear passsing downs.
 

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In a 3-4 you have oversized DEs that can take on the big OTs and seal the edge against the run, so the pass rushing OLBs like Barrett have a little more freedom to attack from different angles whether on the line or blitzinng from behind the line. In a 4-3 the Barrett would have to be a down lineman,period, and smaller guys are much less able to take on a big OT to do that.

And, again, even aside from all that, Barrett is still just a 3-4 sack player, so what extra would he bring to the table anyway?
He had 44 pressures last season on limited snaps. That's what he offers
 

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This is what annoys me.

Look I get you don’t want to shell on mad money for Thomas or Collins

But one year, 5 mill for Shaq Barrett? We pass? We need a pass rusher and still pass?

Get out of here man

Maybe if his last name was Witten.
 

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This is what annoys me.

Look I get you don’t want to shell on mad money for Thomas or Collins

But one year, 5 mill for Shaq Barrett? We pass? We need a pass rusher and still pass?

Get out of here man
You fans crack me up. My god, when will you every get it? Ware and Ellis are coming back, how obvious does it have to get?
 

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This is what annoys me.

Look I get you don’t want to shell on mad money for Thomas or Collins

But one year, 5 mill for Shaq Barrett? We pass? We need a pass rusher and still pass?

Get out of here man

We like our guys. Understand it. Accept it. Live with it.
 

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Well, I sure hope Taco Charlton and Dorance Armstrong are ready for breakout seasons or this team's pass rush is going to be ugly. Even with Lawrence.

GMs don't matter.
 

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Well, I sure hope Taco Charlton and Dorance Armstrong are ready for breakout seasons or this team's pass rush is going to be ugly. Even with Lawrence.

GMs don't matter.
I think Dorance might be a player for us.He has a twitch and motor that should only get better with experience.
 

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This is what annoys me.

Look I get you don’t want to shell on mad money for Thomas or Collins

But one year, 5 mill for Shaq Barrett? We pass? We need a pass rusher and still pass?

Get out of here man

You are spot on. The Clinton-Dix deal has me burned. That would have been a nice upgrade.
 

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only thing your getting at that price would be a David Irving.

And at only $2.5M per sack, how can you go wrong?
so 5(4 yrs played) years 14 sacks is how different than Taco? if TaCO GETS a lot more snaps now with Gregory out im sure he can squeeze out 3.5 sacks..your diss is laughable.. its the same and that defense with all those players funneling sacks to Shaq he should have had more..not saying he couldn't help us but theres reason they let him go and hes only getiing 1yr 5mil..he isnt much more of players then Taco..

I didn't realize Kool-Aid came in taco flavor now :rolleyes:
 

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You fans crack me up. My god, when will you every get it? Ware and Ellis are coming back, how obvious does it have to get?

Who said anything about ware or Ellis?

Just simply stating we have a need at rush end. A rush end who is solid signed for super cheap and a one year deal.

One year at five million doesn’t hinder your cap or hurt you down the road. If he flops he’s off the books next season
 

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This is what annoys me.

Look I get you don’t want to shell on mad money for Thomas or Collins

But one year, 5 mill for Shaq Barrett? We pass? We need a pass rusher and still pass?

Get out of here man
They are still apparently probably on vacation.
 

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And at only $2.5M per sack, how can you go wrong?


I didn't realize Kool-Aid came in taco flavor now :rolleyes:
not kooliad but the OP sated taco can maybe give you 3 sacks yr and wants Shaq, well thats shaqs output as well.. keep wanting guys at more money that arent truly better is not drinking Koolaid, its reality...Taco if he plays 16 games most likely gets 3-5 sacks and Shaq's the same type of player..
 
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