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garyv

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Sure, they could do all that, but it would be stupid. And like you said, they aren't going to do it. They need to get all these great young guys signed first and then worry about someone else. Byron Jones coming up, Jaylon Smith coming up.

I think they are trying to keep and extend their own players which is fine but to get to another level at some point a couple of additions need to be added.
 

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I think they are trying to keep and extend their own players which is fine but to get to another level at some point a couple of additions need to be added.

I completely agree. You simply cannot build a contender through the draft alone.
 

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A wildcard win on average every 4 seasons is not evidence of the process working under Garrett.

Has nothing to do with liking Garrett or not, it has to do with results.

There is no debate that Garrett has not had the success other coaches that have been tenured as long as him have had, even my friend Idgit agrees with that statement. Where he and I disagree is that Idgit attributes that to organizational dysfunction and not Garrett himself while I see both as the problems.

Regardless, for whatever reason, we both agree that Garrett has had limited success compared to his peers of similar tenure. So you have one of Garrett's biggest supporters and one of his biggest critics both agreeing the results have been poor, comparatively, but differing on why. Has nothing to do with liking Garrett or not.
Then pick another team kiddo.
This team is operating this way as long as Stephen is in charge.
Crying about it is beyond stupid and just tilting at windmills.

They literally JUST cleaned up the cap of old restructure nonsense. They ate 28 M LAST YEAR in the final hurrah to do so.
People are stupid beyond words.
In this recent era of fiscal responsibility where they swore off outside free agent overspending and restructures they have won 2 division titles in 3 years and went they have went 32-16.

Absolute brain-deads point to 1 SB title as some great feat when they watch 5-6 years of 5-7 win teams to pay that off. That is absolutely garbage.
Worse they lie about how those teams got there in the first place.

NE balances their cap harshly and willingly moves on rather than pay top of market price for anyone.
Because Brady gives them 10m a year discount they operate at a huge advantage.
And even with frequent roster changes they pay very little dead cap.

PHI spent a few years drafting well, took a tank season or two to clear up cap then immediately got themselves back in cap weeds big time.
The best team in 2017 fell to 9 wins in 2018 and they lost 3 more starters. That's a master class in how NOT to operate a cap or team in general.
A team like NE would have gotten a 2nd and 4th for Foles.

SEA revolutionized defense with this scheme we now run and drafted players insanely well early when Carroll knew every 4+ star HS prospect entering the NFL.
That's why they won, not spending money. Anyone suggesting that is just lying.
They've lost most of those key players as their cap prices have risen and they've remained competitive because they let them go.
 

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Teams need to take a more analytic approach to the cap and see that spending huge money now on players like 20m on DLaw and 14m on ACooper when there cap hits could be half of that is much much worse than taking some Dead Money hits years down the road

People point to ABrown with PITT and his 21m dead money hit but they fail to mention that they rolled over 18m from last year which all but nullifies the dead money and they got the surplus from restructuring AB..... they wanted to use the money on LBell to help them NOW, not in the future

DAL had 19m in Dead money with Romo and his sudden retirement but they don't tell you DAL cleared or saved 34m on the cap AFTER accounting for the Dead Money

Same with Dez.... he was cut after 3 years of his 5 year deal and they saved 17m on the cap AFTER accounting for 8m in Dead Money

DAL acts like GB or CIN instead the ATM Machine they really are.... they have 800m in revenues
 

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Lots of money available if they get DLaw and Coop signed at a more cap friendly price.

The offseason could look so much better if they do that and just sign Suh.
 

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Current Cap Space- 17.2m ........3/19
includes
Cam Flemming- 2/8.5m....... 2.2m cap hit
JOlawale- 2/5.4m...............1.8m cap hit
CCovington....................... 1.7m cap hit
LP Ladaceour......................735k cap hit
McElroy...............................490k cap hit
RCobb...................................5m cap hit

Not yet
TAustin
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Current Cap Space- 17.2m ........3/19
includes
Cam Flemming- 2/8.5m....... 2.2m cap hit
JOlawale- 2/5.4m...............1.8m cap hit
CCovington....................... 1.7m cap hit
LP Ladaceour......................735k cap hit
McElroy...............................490k cap hit
RCobb...................................5m cap hit

Not yet
TAustin
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Is 5 Mill good for Cobb ???
 

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Current Cap Space- 16.9m ........3/20
includes
Cam Flemming- 2/8.5m....... 2.2m cap hit
JOlawale- 2/5.4m...............1.7m cap hit
CCovington....................... 1.7m cap hit
LP Ladaceour......................735k cap hit
McElroy...............................490k cap hit
RCobb...................................5m cap hit
Hyder....................................880k cap hit

Not yet
TAustin
 

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Then pick another team kiddo.
This team is operating this way as long as Stephen is in charge.
Crying about it is beyond stupid and just tilting at windmills.

They literally JUST cleaned up the cap of old restructure nonsense. They ate 28 M LAST YEAR in the final hurrah to do so.
People are stupid beyond words.
In this recent era of fiscal responsibility where they swore off outside free agent overspending and restructures they have won 2 division titles in 3 years and went they have went 32-16.

Absolute brain-deads point to 1 SB title as some great feat when they watch 5-6 years of 5-7 win teams to pay that off. That is absolutely garbage.
Worse they lie about how those teams got there in the first place.

NE balances their cap harshly and willingly moves on rather than pay top of market price for anyone.
Because Brady gives them 10m a year discount they operate at a huge advantage.
And even with frequent roster changes they pay very little dead cap.

PHI spent a few years drafting well, took a tank season or two to clear up cap then immediately got themselves back in cap weeds big time.
The best team in 2017 fell to 9 wins in 2018 and they lost 3 more starters. That's a master class in how NOT to operate a cap or team in general.
A team like NE would have gotten a 2nd and 4th for Foles.

SEA revolutionized defense with this scheme we now run and drafted players insanely well early when Carroll knew every 4+ star HS prospect entering the NFL.
That's why they won, not spending money. Anyone suggesting that is just lying.
They've lost most of those key players as their cap prices have risen and they've remained competitive because they let them go.


None of this matters!!! ZERO SUPERBOWLS, ZERO CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS, is the only thing that matters. Who cares if they are in good cap shape, or bad cap shape, if the outcome is exactly the same. That's what's "stupid" as you would say. There is a balance in between where they used to be and where they are now, and that's where they need to be. But, until they win, and people stop caring about division titles and regular season wins, as if they mean anything whatsoever, being in good cap shape is a idiotic way to measure success...
 

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Thats why they traded for Cooper & signed Cobb

True, Cooper was a nice addition via trade. But it was costly as a first round pick. And we do have to sign him to a huge contract soon. I was against the trade originally, but to see how much it helped Dak and the offense it was no brainer now.
 

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Current Cap Space- 16.1m ........3/21
includes
Cam Flemming- 2/8.5m....... 2.2m cap hit
JOlawale- 2/5.4m...............1.7m cap hit
CCovington....................... 1.7m cap hit
LP Ladaceour......................735k cap hit
McElroy...............................490k cap hit
RCobb...................................5m cap hit
Hyder....................................880k cap hit
TAustin.................................1.3m cap hit
 
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