WR group coming together?

BigCatMonaco

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Ok pump him up if you want but he wasn't a highly rated receiver out of college hence the 6th round pick. The cowboys stashed him on IR cause he wasn't ready to run with the big boys but if you want to call him the next AB, go right ahead I hope he is but it is not likely. You guys and your rico superstar syndrome are silly.



Please point out where I labeled him the next AB, I can wait. The fact remains that vs division 1 college competition he produced comparably to the top guys and graded out better than most actually. Pair that with the fact he didn’t drop his key targets and damn near led the nation in deep yards, pardon me for believing he has potential.
 

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Ok pump him up if you want but he wasn't a highly rated receiver out of college hence the 6th round pick. The cowboys stashed him on IR cause he wasn't ready to run with the big boys but if you want to call him the next AB, go right ahead I hope he is but it is not likely. You guys and your rico superstar syndrome are silly.

He was a sixth round pick because he’s 6’2-6’3 and 190 pounds coming out and went to Boise.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.

Our R2 is our R1 or first pick.
 

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Noah Brown will be improved next year also, he is still younger today than Calvin Ridley was when he was drafted.

I think we draft a WR in the 4th or 5th round also.

I'm also starting to warm up to the idea of Hurns playing the slot on a restructured contract, I despised his play as the main option last year but he was good as the 3rd or 4th option once Amari Cooper was on board. He is apparently a good teammate as well, I thought he was a lock to be cut but I'm starting to come around on the idea of him as the slot guy.

Brown compares roughly to Dez biometric wise.
 

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I’d add a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round, depending who’s available. We need another red zone threat and an upgrade to Hurns in the slot. The team seems to love him, but I’m not seeing it.

not wasting a second or third round pick on a wide receiver that isn't going to help this team this year...DT, LB or cb
 

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I agree, but I also didn't say he only participated in 1 practice. I said he was hurt in the first full padded practice.



What could I be making up? That he was injured on the 28th during the first padded practice? I can post the link, but it took me all of 5 seconds to find it
I didn't say you made up tar he was hurt the first padded practice. Perhaps i didn't make it clear, my fault. I was talking about Wilson not looking better than Gallup at first. Wilson was looking better but we don't know if he could have carried that over through the season. Maybe Gallup started off slow.

Doesn't matter either way. The top 2 spots are locked with Cooper and Gallup. Every receiver we have or will sign or draft will have a chance to win tar 3rd spot. Personally i think it will be Wilson but it's a competition I'm looking forward to in camp.
 

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I didn't say you made up tar he was hurt the first padded practice. Perhaps i didn't make it clear, my fault. I was talking about Wilson not looking better than Gallup at first. Wilson was looking better but we don't know if he could have carried that over through the season. Maybe Gallup started off slow.

Doesn't matter either way. The top 2 spots are locked with Cooper and Gallup. Every receiver we have or will sign or draft will have a chance to win tar 3rd spot. Personally i think it will be Wilson but it's a competition I'm looking forward to in camp.

I never said that Wilson did or didn't look better, I'm just pointing out how little it means to look better through 2 days of practice.
 

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After thinking it over, if we take a WR in R2 or R3 then he better be damn good.

Consider this. We just spent our 2019 1st on Cooper. Are we really about to spend our 2019 2nd on the same position when Heath is our starting safety, our best DE wont go get his surgery, and our 2nd best DE is either Crawford or Taco?

To me, double dipping like that would be a poor distribution of resources. We aren't bad enough at WR to justify it. I think Cooper and Gallup will have a lot of people saying we're pretty good at WR by this time next year.
 

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With Austin re-signing, I dont expect any more WR moves other than a Cooper extension and a possible draft pick. Looks like this is the group: Austin, Brown, Cooper, Gallup, Hurns, Wilson.

Cooper and Gallup make a nice 1-2 punch. I'm feeling good about the top two.

Brown offers things in the passing game but he always felt under utilized by Linehan so I dont really know what we have in him but he seems like good depth at least.

Hurns and Austin dont excite me much but they can come out of the slot. Under KM, I expect to see Cooper doing this more. I like Austin in PR, our best since Dwayne Harris.

That leaves Wilson. There was a hype thread about him recently which led me to dig up old articles on him and I'm excited for what he could bring. Other than that he missed his rookie year and so it's not fair to set high expectations.

Overall I feel good about the group. There's a chance a draft pick comes in but I'm also ok with spending the picks elsewhere and leaving room for Dak, Cooper, Gallup, and Wilson to develop together.

What are your opinions?

I honestly think we are all set at WR. Very very happy with the group. What this team REALLY needs is a great young TE that can block and create mismatches in the middle of the field and the redzone. A big, dependable target for Dak.
 

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No. It would depend on who’s available. I wouldn’t be upset though. From what I’ve read about him he’s a fast Cole Beasley. Sign me up. I just would rather get him with that 3rd and hope he’s there.

Agree with everything said, as much as I want D, I would not be upset in the least if taken at 58.
 

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Agree with everything said, as much as I want D, I would not be upset in the least if taken at 58.
Not at all. Its suppose to be a heavy defensive line draft....I'd love to snag those guys but with as late as we pick....I'm more interested in getting playmakers. Going to be interesting to see if they will try trade up. I imagine or the right guy they will.
 

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With Austin re-signing, I dont expect any more WR moves other than a Cooper extension and a possible draft pick. Looks like this is the group: Austin, Brown, Cooper, Gallup, Hurns, Wilson.

Cooper and Gallup make a nice 1-2 punch. I'm feeling good about the top two.

Brown offers things in the passing game but he always felt under utilized by Linehan so I dont really know what we have in him but he seems like good depth at least.

Hurns and Austin dont excite me much but they can come out of the slot. Under KM, I expect to see Cooper doing this more. I like Austin in PR, our best since Dwayne Harris.

That leaves Wilson. There was a hype thread about him recently which led me to dig up old articles on him and I'm excited for what he could bring. Other than that he missed his rookie year and so it's not fair to set high expectations.

Overall I feel good about the group. There's a chance a draft pick comes in but I'm also ok with spending the picks elsewhere and leaving room for Dak, Cooper, Gallup, and Wilson to develop together.

What are your opinions?
You didn't mention the guy whos gonna surprise the most, Devin Smith.
 

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After thinking it over, if we take a WR in R2 or R3 then he better be damn good.

Consider this. We just spent our 2019 1st on Cooper. Are we really about to spend our 2019 2nd on the same position when Heath is our starting safety, our best DE wont go get his surgery, and our 2nd best DE is either Crawford or Taco?

To me, double dipping like that would be a poor distribution of resources. We aren't bad enough at WR to justify it. I think Cooper and Gallup will have a lot of people saying we're pretty good at WR by this time next year.

Agreed. DL esp edge rusher
 

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Bumping this with the Cobb acquisition.

So at this moment, as a starting point, this is a likely WR group:
Cooper
Gallup
Cobb
Hurns
Wilson
Austin

My thoughts on Cobb:

He's going to be good here, on gameday and for the younger WRs. Its hard to imagine Cobb as just the WR3. Behind Zeke he's at most our 4th option. That's pretty sick. I predict several low target games and the occasional stat explosion when some defense decides they can't cover everybody and then forgets him.

I can't imagine they commit 11M in cap hits combined to the WR3 and WR4. There have been comparisons to Beasley in other threads, but in my mind, Beasley is already gone so the Hurns comparison matters more.

Hurns' line last year was 20/295/2. On only 9 games, Cobb's line was 38/383/2. Hurns is an expensive luxury now and I can't see this front office paying 6M for him. I think they'd just assume roll the cap over at that point.

That just leaves the draft and with Cobb serving as a bridge player a draft pick makes some sense. My preference is to leave Wilson and Brown the room to develop and invest elsewhere, Cobb or another guy can be signed next offseason if need be.

So that leaves me hoping for:

Cooper
Gallup
Cobb
Austin
Wilson
Brown

No WR draft picks, +4M in cap savings from Hurns, and Cobb is a -1M net cap hit from before he signed.
 

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Wilson was also the 3rd highest graded rookie WR in that draft and 2nd in deep receiving yards and yards per route run behind Gallup.

Yet there were still 25 wide receivers chosen in the 2018 draft before Wilson. That says a lot about what teams felt about those particular “grades”
 
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