Is Dak a so-called bus driver?

[Diehardblues]

Another ignorant post. Stop with your childish "Dak-Crush" BS. Are you 12?

It's unrealistic at best, to assume a QB should carry the team, that's just dumb.

You hate Prescott, and nothing I say is going to make you be reasonable.

For example, the divisional playoff game vs. LA. The defense allowed 275 yards rushing. Elliott didn't even have 50 yards rushing.
There! Elliott and the defense didn't produce, yet Prescott put up 2 TDs and 266 yards. Not good enough? Go away.

It wasn’t enough to overcome our other defenciences. Our scoring offense was below average and 266 passing yards is below the league average as well.

And what effects does Elliott’s lack of production correlate as the result of defenses stacking the box challenging Dak to beat them over the top?

No question giving up 275 yards was a key factor in our loss but our defense held them to 3 FG’s which kept the game within reach despite and if we could have kept up in scoring which we had an opportunity late in the game we still could have overcome or at least extended the game.

This doesn’t place blame on Dak but his weaknesses are part of the symptoms.

 

[Diehardblues]

when Troy says, "well Dak is probably already better than me" I might take him serious. Up to now all he's said is "not accurate and isn't really helping his offensive line any".. but who's Troy.

And that was evident last year in Atlanta as he wasn’t able to help the situation at all with his mobility. So much was put on Chaz and coaching which of course they were also responsible but Dak didn’t adjust either.

There’s many contributing factors but Daks weaknesses are part of the symptoms.

Troy needed Elite talent around him but look what he did with it.

 

[Captain-Crash]

And that was evident last year in Atlanta as he wasn’t able to help the situation at all with his mobility. So much was put on Chaz and coaching which of course they were also responsible but Dak didn’t adjust either.

There’s many contributing factors but Daks weaknesses are part of the symptoms.

and after that Atlanta game he panic or "glitched' out any time any team applied pressure to him. Some games he panic when pressured wasn't that bad. I love his spin move back into pressure.. clutch.

 

[G2]

It wasn’t enough to overcome our other defenciences. Our scoring offense was below average and 266 passing yards is below the league average as well.

And what effects does Elliott’s lack of production correlate as the result of defenses stacking the box challenging Dak to beat them over the top?

No question giving up 275 yards was a key factor in our loss but our defense held them to 3 FG’s which kept the game within reach despite and if we could have kept up in scoring which we had an opportunity late in the game we still could have overcome or at least extended the game.

This doesn’t place blame on Dak but his weaknesses are part of the symptoms.

Wrong, it was plenty enough. You are just throwing numbers out there. 266 in a playoff game, plus 2 TDs is just fine.
Goff threw for 180 and no TDs, lol.
Elliott? Yeah, more than 47 yards would be fantastic!
And the defense didn't keep them to 3 FGs, just stop it.

 

[PhillySpecial]

Ralph Kramden of the NFL.

Just trying to add a little humor to lighten up the mood.

 

[Swagger]

Wrong, it was plenty enough. You are just throwing numbers out there. 266 in a playoff game, plus 2 TDs is just fine.
Goff threw for 180 and no TDs, lol.
Elliott? Yeah, more than 47 yards would be fantastic!
And the defense didn't keep them to 3 FGs, just stop it.

Do we need to go through this again...

Rams shut down our running game.

They did whatever was required to stop the run and were happy to place the ball in Prescott's hands.

Until late in the game by which point the game was done, Prescott wasn't able to keep us in the game with his arm. The late yards and points were against a soft defense devised to just waste time - not really fussed about garbage time yards and points - just interested in taking time off the clock.

Our running defense got overrun but people conveniently forget how we butchered several drives on offense in the first half which was crucial in the loss.

Every game is going to be different.

When required, unless a team has an elite defense and I mean elite (Broncos few years back, Ravens with Ray Lewis and Legion of Boom but less so) a QB will in all likelihood need to win a shootout at some point - you can name countless quarterbacks that have been able to do this over the past 15 years and many aren't even elite. Foles, Ryan, Flacco etc.

The issue that people have with Prescott is that based on the past three seasons, he just isn't going to get it done in that type of game. It's nothing personal, it's just the way it is. And the opposition are fully aware of that. Completely take away our running game then we can only win if our Defense plays like a top 5 defense - which it can but to consistently pull that off is unlikely and they weren't able to play like a top 5 defense against the Rams, Prescott didn't step up when it actually mattered in the first half and we lost.

So for the people who actually understand football, if Prescott is kept on, which looks likely, then it's all about our defense. They need to step up (5th best defense in the league for me last season) again and get into the top three and hope that they execute in every single big game otherwise we can't win.

 

[G2]

Do we need to go through this again...

Rams shut down our running game.

They did whatever was required to stop the run and were happy to place the ball in Prescott's hands.

Until late in the game by which point the game was done, Prescott wasn't able to keep us in the game with his arm. The late yards and points were against a soft defense devised to just waste time - not really fussed about garbage time yards and points - just interested in taking time off the clock.

Our running defense got overrun but people conveniently forget how we butchered several drives on offense in the first half which was crucial in the loss.

Every game is going to be different.

When required, unless a team has an elite defense and I mean elite (Broncos few years back, Ravens with Ray Lewis and Legion of Boom but less so) a QB will in all likelihood need to win a shootout at some point - you can name countless quarterbacks that have been able to do this over the past 15 years and many aren't even elite. Foles, Ryan, Flacco etc.

The issue that people have with Prescott is that based on the past three seasons, he just isn't going to get it done in that type of game. It's nothing personal, it's just the way it is. And the opposition are fully aware of that. Completely take away our running game then we can only win if our Defense plays like a top 5 defense - which it can but to consistently pull that off is unlikely and they weren't able to play like a top 5 defense against the Rams, Prescott didn't step up when it actually mattered in the first half and we lost.

So for the people who actually understand football, if Prescott is kept on, which looks likely, then it's all about our defense. They need to step up (5th best defense in the league for me last season) again and get into the top three and hope that they execute in every single big game otherwise we can't win.

The defense wasn't top 5 in the post-season. You know, when it counts. And there are 4 quarters, not two. But you understand football.

 

[cern]

as long as we win with dak, it matters not to me whether he is a bus driver or able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

 

[G2]

as long as we win with dak, it matters not to me whether he is a bus driver or able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

32-16 looks good to me!

 

[Swagger]

The defense wasn't top 5 in the post-season. You know, when it counts. And there are 4 quarters, not two. But you understand football.

That's the exact point that i'm making.

Given that Prescott has shown that he's incapable of winning a shoot out or keeping us in those games, our defense has to be Top 5 and execute in every single game to win. The reality is that there's a bit of give and take whereby a QB has it in him to step up and carry a team during a game when the defense underperforms. Nick Foles did this in the Superbowl against the best, Tom Brady, and the Patriots. Earlier in the play offs that season, the Eagles defense carried Foles and helped the team win against the Falcons.

In the play offs the Cowboys D allowed 22 points against the Seahawks and 30 points against the Rams. Not great but not terrible. Many teams have conceded 30 points in post season games and won them.

 

[Swagger]

32-16 looks good to me!

Because we have had a blooming strong roster the past three seasons! A whole load of talent on both offense and defense.

 

[Diehardblues]

Wrong, it was plenty enough. You are just throwing numbers out there. 266 in a playoff game, plus 2 TDs is just fine.
Goff threw for 180 and no TDs, lol.
Elliott? Yeah, more than 47 yards would be fantastic!
And the defense didn't keep them to 3 FGs, just stop it.

Why do you think Elliott was held to 47 yards? And why we’re we unable to put up more than 22 points.

266 yards and 2 TD’s is fine if there isn’t other defenciences . Again, not blaming Dak but how much does he contribute to leagues leading RB stifled and scoring offense held to 22 points.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wrong, it was plenty enough. You are just throwing numbers out there. 266 in a playoff game, plus 2 TDs is just fine.
Goff threw for 180 and no TDs, lol.
Elliott? Yeah, more than 47 yards would be fantastic!
And the defense didn't keep them to 3 FGs, just stop it.

but that's the whole point, when something on the offense or on the team is not working, are you able to elevate your game and elevate those around you. of those 266 yards, 100 were in the last two meaningless drives against prevent defense that was trying to kill time.....when it counted and was needed it didn't happen. he was 1-9 on 3rd down conversions....most of those opportunities in the first 3.5 quarters....

again, Dak lovers give him credit for the highest number of comebacks in the 4th quarter, not realizing he put the team behind the 8 ball but not performing in the first place ala the Rams game....this was once he didn't comeback and win the game....so all the blame goes to Zeke, coaching, etc...but if we did comeback and win, you all be here and say, hey Dak had another comeback.....

with that said, Goff took advantage and the Rams took advantage of what was working....you can't give Dak credit for his wins...when Zeke goes hogwild, because there is certainly plenty of those.....but then diminish Goff for his performance when same thing happens....you can't have it both ways..

btw, the next week, when Rams needed it...Goff had almost 300 yards passing. that's when their running game wasn't working..CJ anderson had 44 yards......similar to the cowboys against the rams....but Goff elevated his game....

 

[G2]

In the play offs the Cowboys D allowed 22 points against the Seahawks and 30 points against the Rams. Not great but not terrible. Many teams have conceded 30+ points in post season games and won them.

Last seasons playoffs 1 out of 11 postseason games a team won while allowing 30+.

 

[cern]

32-16 looks good to me!

when we went 7-1 after the addition of cooper last year, I was pretty much sold on dak. to be able to turn things around after the 3-5 start was impressive. and he was a big part of it.

 

[G2]

but that's the whole point, when something on the offense or on the team is not working, are you able to elevate your game and elevate those around you. of those 266 yards, 100 were in the last two meaningless drives against prevent defense that was trying to kill time.....when it counted and was needed it didn't happen. he was 1-9 on 3rd down conversions....most of those opportunities in the first 3.5 quarters....

again, Dak lovers give him credit for the highest number of comebacks in the 4th quarter, not realizing he put the team behind the 8 ball but not performing in the first place ala the Rams game....this was once he didn't comeback and win the game....so all the blame goes to Zeke, coaching, etc...but if we did comeback and win, you all be here and say, hey Dak had another comeback.....

with that said, Goff took advantage and the Rams took advantage of what was working....you can't give Dak credit for his wins...when Zeke goes hogwild, because there is certainly plenty of those.....but then diminish Goff for his performance when same thing happens....you can't have it both ways..

btw, the next week, when Rams needed it...Goff had almost 300 yards passing. that's when their running game wasn't working..CJ anderson had 44 yards......similar to the cowboys against the rams....but Goff elevated his game....

I'm not a Dak lover, so get the hell out with that crap. I'm simply not blaming him for NOT "carrying" the team like so many morons suggest needs to happen.
Heard the same BS with Romo, no all of a sudden fans afford him the excuses.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The defense wasn't top 5 in the post-season. You know, when it counts. And there are 4 quarters, not two. But you understand football.

actually wrong. in the game against the seahawks they did play at a high level...top 10ish as they were.

yes, the run defense collapsed against the rams...but you have games like that and the rest of the team has to be able to pick it up...you give Dak credit for the wins....one of which was when we beat NO, with 10 points and Dak had an awful game....so the defense picked up and saved the day....its football it happens...

but you understand football!

 

[G2]

when we went 7-1 after the addition of cooper last year, I was pretty much sold on dak. to be able to turn things around after the 3-5 start was impressive. and he was a big part of it.

Solid point. No one wanted to admit Bryant was a headcase. And without a strong WR, we struggled.

 

[G2]

actually wrong. in the game against the seahawks they did play at a high level...top 10ish as they were.

yes, the run defense collapsed against the rams...but you have games like that and the rest of the team has to be able to pick it up...you give Dak credit for the wins....one of which was when we beat NO, with 10 points and Dak had an awful game....so the defense picked up and saved the day....its football it happens...

but you understand football!

I'm talking about the LA game when the defense was a screen door for 275 rushing yards.
Also, top 10-ish still isn't top 5.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why do you think Elliott was held to 47 yards? And why we’re we unable to put up more than 22 points.

266 yards and 2 TD’s is fine if there isn’t other defenciences . Again, not blaming Dak but how much does he contribute to leagues leading RB stifled and scoring offense held to 22 points.

about a 100 of those yards came in the last two meaningless drives...... which means he had 160 yards and was 1-9 on 3rd down conversion when it mattered...which further indicates when Zeke doesn't have a good game and its on Dak to elevate the team...he fails....its been consistent result of all the game during his career.