News: No excuses left in make-or-break year for Jason Garrett and the Cowboys

Diehardblues

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And is why Wildcatter Jones has rolled the dice on Kellen Moore, and his yet-to-be-seen offensive creativity, possibly being the missing ingredient that will instantly improve our offense.

Should be an exciting season.
I’m curious to see what this “ spread “ offense I’ve been hearing about might uplift our offense and QB effectiveness in passing game.

I think you have to get creative with a QB with these skill sets.The normal NFL pro set doesn’t appear to fit his talent level.
 

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Wholeheartedly disagree.

There is a reason why Garrett is a lame-duck head coach.

A reason why his contract has not been renewed.

And that reason is that even the incredible patience of Jerry Jones has run out.

The fact is that barring a deep playoff run, Jones knows that he can't "sell him" to the fanbase anymore. And his own actions here prove that. He may as well just stand on a stage and flip the middle finger to the fanbase than to try to retain Garrett if he disappoints again. That would be exactly what he would be doing by those actions. And he knows it.

There's a combination of fan discontent and their having grown more than tired of the excuses, and Jones' own motivation to win a championship before he either steps down, or passes on. The death of Texans' owner Bob McNair resonated with Jones, and he sees his own mortality, and he knows he can no longer afford to wait for Jason Garrett to "get it". He wins this year or he's gone. Count on it.
All reasonable points, however, you might be missing the big picture.

First off, “fan discontent” is on the back burner. The DCs are the most valuable sports team on the planet and are perennially at the top of every NFL revenue-stream worth mentioning. As long as we’re competitive, Jerry’s not worried about the fan$.

Garrett working without an extension, and KM being named OC is not about 2019, but rather about the future.

Garrett was a QB coach, who Jerry hired as OC before hiring JG’s boss, Wade Phillips. JJ even went so far as to name JG “HC in waiting”. Phillips was fired because of a crash-and-burn 1-7 start — not because of acceptable mediocrity.

Kellen Moore, although on a shorter ramp-up, is a QB coach, now promoted to OC (sound familiar?)

Jerry didn’t promote KM as a one-season experiment, but in order to groom him for the eventual HC position. Depending on how KM performs during 2019 will likely impact how long JG’s next contract is.

1) DC implodes, Jerry bites the bullet and cleans house.
2) KM hits it out of the park, DC at least makes the NFC Champ game, then maybe JG keeps the HC job for 1-2 seasons, while KM prepares to take over.
3) KM shows promise but experiences growing pains, then maybe Garrett keeps the head job for 2-3 seasons.

Jerry wants KM to succeed, but if he fires Garrett before KM is ready to be HC, what realistic improvement of a head coach can you name who would come here and accept a learning-on-the-job KM as his OC?

Soon-to-be 77yo Jerry Jones has his sights set on Kellen Moore, sooner or later, becoming the DCs’ head coach. The last thing in the world he wants is to clean house and start over with an entirely new coaching regime.

Unless the Cowboys fold like a cheap tent, Jason Garrett won’t be fired any time soon.
 

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All reasonable points, however, you might be missing the big picture.

First off, “fan discontent” is on the back burner. The DCs are the most valuable sports team on the planet and are perennially at the top of every NFL revenue-stream worth mentioning. As long as we’re competitive, Jerry’s not worried about the fan$.

Garrett working without an extension, and KM being named OC is not about 2019, but rather about the future.

Garrett was a QB coach, who Jerry hired as OC before hiring JG’s boss, Wade Phillips. JJ even went so far as to name JG “HC in waiting”. Phillips was fired because of a crash-and-burn 1-7 start — not because of acceptable mediocrity.

Kellen Moore, although on a shorter ramp-up, is a QB coach, now promoted to OC (sound familiar?)

Jerry didn’t promote KM as a one-season experiment, but in order to groom him for the eventual HC position. Depending on how KM performs during 2019 will likely impact how long JG’s next contract is.

1) DC implodes, Jerry bites the bullet and cleans house.
2) KM hits it out of the park, DC at least makes the NFC Champ game, then maybe JG keeps the HC job for 1-2 seasons, while KM prepares to take over.
3) KM shows promise but experiences growing pains, then maybe Garrett keeps the head job for 2-3 seasons.

Jerry wants KM to succeed, but if he fires Garrett before KM is ready to be HC, what realistic improvement of a head coach can you name who would come here and accept a learning-on-the-job KM as his OC...knowing that his own job would still depend on KM?

Soon-to-be 77yo Jerry Jones has his sights set on Kellen Moore, sooner or later, becoming the DCs’ head coach. The last thing in the world he wants is to start over with an entirely new coaching regime.

Unless the Cowboys fold like a cheap tent, Jason Garrett won’t be fired any time soon.

I think your Kellen Moore fixation is misguided. If this doesn't work, they ALL go, including Kellen Moore. They're not holding this whole thing up while hoping for the "next Garrett" to disappoint them. And then the new head coach picks and chooses who he wants, not Jerry.
 

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Hard to top roster? Who wrote that?

The top roster does not always win but anyone that puts this roster at the top has a credibility problem. There are homers that won't put it at the top.

And rosters are all about one thing, names on paper. Teams on the field? A little different.
 

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Not yet at least, there's always time to develop an excuse.
 

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I think your Kellen Moore fixation is misguided. If this doesn't work, they ALL go, including Kellen Moore. They're not holding this whole thing up while hoping for the "next Garrett" to disappoint them. And then the new head coach picks and chooses who he wants, not Jerry.
I don’t have a Kellen Moore fixation...but Jerry does.

Other than Jimmy and Parcells (possibly Chan Gailey?) no DC head coach has entirely picked his own staff.

The Cowboy’s current structure-by-committee takes precedent over HC autonomy...just ask Jason Garrett.
 

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I don’t have a Kellen Moore fixation...but Jerry does.

Other than Jimmy and Parcells (possibly Chan Gailey?) no DC head coach has entirely picked his own staff.

The Cowboy’s current structure-by-committee takes precedent over HC autonomy...just ask Jason Garrett.
What about Richard. Lots of talk about him being the next Cowboys HC.
 

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Hard to top roster? Who wrote that?

The top roster does not always win but anyone that puts this roster at the top has a credibility problem. There are homers that won't put it at the top.

And rosters are all about one thing, names on paper. Teams on the field? A little different.
Right!!

Yea , I’d say the “ top roster” Narrative has a Troll odor to it.
 

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I don’t have a Kellen Moore fixation...but Jerry does.

Other than Jimmy and Parcells (possibly Chan Gailey?) no DC head coach has entirely picked his own staff.

The Cowboy’s current structure-by-committee takes precedent over HC autonomy...just ask Jason Garrett.
Yep

I’m not sure why some fans struggle or in denial with Jerry’s concept of control over his puppetry coaching staff?
 

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I don’t have a Kellen Moore fixation...but Jerry does.

Other than Jimmy and Parcells (possibly Chan Gailey?) no DC head coach has entirely picked his own staff.

The Cowboy’s current structure-by-committee takes precedent over HC autonomy...just ask Jason Garrett.

Are you trying to claim that Garrett hasn't had input over the decisions made regarding this staff?
 

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I think fans are putting more Drama into his contract season than Jerry is.
He has not gone as far as Lurie did, everyone was aware of what Reid had to do to keep his job and didn't do that and Lurie carried through with his ultimatum.

Booger has never let on that Garrett is a lame duck coach. He didn't extend him but that does not mean he will not re-sign him to a new deal. Too many are putting too much in that comment that his son made, who does not run the team. Those who think he's becoming The Man need to watch that video from the war room. He just shoots off his mouth a lot.

And there's no evidence that letting a HC go through his contract has any effect on the results, these guys don't coach better with that on the line. For all we know, Booger and Garrett have discussed it and it might be Garrett that didn't want to talk extension? And maybe how they embarrassed him over that Linehan comment has put a strain on the relationship? What aholes, there were better ways to handle that situation without emasculating your guy in front of the public and team. But then, the team may know better about what goes on behind that curtain.

The Garrett situation does add some drama to the season and plenty of fodder for the talking heads but honestly, I don't care. Doesn't matter whether he goes or stays because I do not buy into that "he can't win a SB". Any HC can win a SB as proven by some of the winners. I don't think any HC, including the great Sean Payton, will have the run of the house like most other HC's do. So, might as well be Garrett for continuity and stability.
 

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Are you trying to claim that Garrett hasn't had input over the decisions made regarding this staff?

You think Jerry allows him to wipe his own butt? Not without getting permission first.
 

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There is a word that continues to pop up about how this team goes about making decisions, collaborative. And in some instances, you can read into that "not my idea".

Linehan is staying. "Son, collaborate Jason and tell him to retract that. We haven't collaborated on that yet before we fire him. And tell Kellen I want to have cocktails and collaborate with him tonight".
 

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We’ve got a good team. In part because of the work that Garrett and his staff have done. We can and should win with this team, and if we do, Garrett will he extended. Again. It’s pretty simple.

Win what, the division? the Wildcard? That's not good enough.. You're right we actually have a great team... We have the players to get to the Superbowl. We just didn't have the coaching staff that can get us to there. We have the players but not the coaching. I'm crossing my fingers all that changes with the changing of the guard at OC and QB coach, all of that will change... I'm not necessarily saying win the Superbowl (Of course I would love for us to win it). But at least get us there...
 
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