Dak Prescott: a prime candidate to see considerable improvement

[LandryFan]

Dak resigning for about 18 million a year would be....NICE.

One can only hope.

Replace the word "hope" with "dream", and you'll be on the mark. $18m is pretty much bum QB money nowadays.

 

[cern]

speculate, theorize, hypothesize, postulate, surmise, etc. we won't know if he gets better in 2019 until after the season is played. I think he will improve. the biggest impediment to his improvement, linehan, is gone.

 

[Stash]

speculate, theorize, hypothesize, postulate, surmise, etc. we won't know if he gets better in 2019 until after the season is played. I think he will improve. the biggest impediment to his improvement, linehan, is gone.

And I think that Kitna will do a far better job as his quarterbacks coach than anyone he had coaching him before. I only wish that they had made the move last year. Moore was never able to develop into a true NFL quarterback in his brief career, so it's unrealistic to expect him to be able to coach it out of someone else. Kitna did that and has been a true student of the game for years, and he has worked with some innovative passing-game coaches. Add that up and I think he will be really good for Dak.

And as you said, the biggest impediment in Linehan is thankfully gone.

 

[Mr_437]

Cowboys don't even attempt back shoulder fades. This is a nuance throw #4 has issues throwing.. ranked 27th in avoiding uncatchable passes (by PFF)... Kitna is probably better off improving other aspects of #4's game rather than one type of sparingly used pass.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I get it now. By being a fourth round pick, Dak "can't win" your game.

Careful. Your double standards are showing.

What was the double standard part I went back on?

 

[Stash]

What was the double standard part I went back on?

I’ll make a thread about it. Dak’s situation as a mid round pick isn’t as unique as it seems, but the QBs never ascend once they get that big money

And yet you try to make the conditions different for Wentz, the player who has put up lesser numbers since both have entered the league. If Dak can't "ascend", the guy with lesser numbers surely can't.

Unless you have obvious double standards?

 

[HungryLion]

I’ll make a thread about it. Dak’s situation as a mid round pick isn’t as unique as it seems, but the QBs never ascend once they get that big money

I would be interested in seeing this.

I have a hard time off the top of my head, recalling many mid round pick QB’s that have had similar success level to Dak after 3 years. So I would imagine the sample size is small. But I may be wrong and just not able to remember the QB’s.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

And yet you try to make the conditions different for Wentz, the player who has put up lesser numbers since both have entered the league. If Dak can't "ascend", the guy with lesser numbers surely can't.

Unless you have obvious double standards?

I clearly said mid round pick in my first post, you even quoted it...

Are you being facetious?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I would be interested in seeing this.

I have a hard time off the top of my head, recalling many mid round pick QB’s that have had similar success level to Dak after 3 years. So I would imagine the sample size is small. But I may be wrong and just not able to remember the QB’s.

Circumstantial specificity

 

[TexasHillbilly]

First round picks have a history of blossoming, even later sometimes.

There have been many that turned out good but there are also many that did not turn out so good.

Carson has shown that he can play ball, he just has to keep from getting injured.

 

[Stash]

I clearly said mid round pick in my first post, you even quoted it...

Are you being facetious?

And this changes the conditions how exactly? It's the very definition of a double standard. Are you actually trying to differentiate performance and room for improvement based on where a player was drafted? Only a first round pick can "ascend" because that how much you had to pay to get yours? Laughable.

Like I said Eagles fan, your double standards are on clear display. You typed without thinking it through and now you're exposed.

 

[Stash]

There have been many that turned out good but there are also many that did not turn out so good.

Carson has shown that he can play ball, he just has to keep from getting injured.

He's trying to set conditions to where only his guy might be worth the money. The guy that has inferior production to date.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

There have been many that turned out good but there are also many that did not turn out so good.

Carson has shown that he can play ball, he just has to keep from getting injured.

True

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

He's trying to set conditions to where only his guy might be worth the money. The guy that has inferior production to date.

My conditions are about Prescott only. You want it to be about Carson. Godwin’s Law OC the Cowboys message board.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

And this changes the conditions how exactly? It's the very definition of a double standard. Are you actually trying to differentiate performance and room for improvement based on where a player was drafted? Only a first round pick can "ascend" because that how much you had to pay to get yours? Laughable.

Like I said Eagles fan, your double standards are on clear display. You typed without thinking it through and now you're exposed.

Double standard is a form of hypocrisy. It implies I used rules that impacted 2 people but only acknowledged one of them. Carson was never a mid round pick, so saying anything about mid round picks does not include him.

So you can call it incorrect analysis, you can try and twist into inter-fandom trolling, but to proclaim it an outright double standard is a lie and you know it.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

You don't want to talk about Carson. BVecause it paints your guy in yet another unfavorable light. You only want to try to undermine Dak. Your agenda is clear.

Again, you expose your own double standards. Thanks for making it crystal clear.

Come in here and take shots at everything and anything Cowboys and then think you've achieved something.

To troll.

I'm surprised your act has been allowed to go on this long.

This isn’t a Carson Wentz thread, nor an eagles board. By all means go on the eagles board and ask them about wentz.

The irony is you’re the one who won’t stop talking about the eagles on the cowboys main board. Let’s talk Cowboys.

Also, stop with the name calling, that’s against board rules.

 

[Sydla]

Double standard is a form of hypocrisy. It implies I used rules that impacted 2 people but only acknowledged one of them. Carson was never a mid round pick, so saying anything about mid round picks does not include him.

But in order for your little analysis to work.............. you would need to show us the list of mid round picks that had the level of success Dak had in his first three years and then flatlined.

You can't just apply the trend across all QBs drafted in the middle rounds. In other words, you can't say QB A was a mid round pick, he stunk in years 1-2 and never got better. Therefore, it's impossible Prescott won't get better than he is now because, like QB A, he was a mid round pick who never improved.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

But in order for your little analysis to work.............. you would need to show us the list of mid round picks that had the level of success Dak had in his first three years and then flatlined.

You can't just apply the trend across all QBs drafted in the middle rounds. In other words, you can't say QB A was a mid round pick, he stunk in years 1-2 and never got better. Therefore, it's impossible Prescott won't get better than he is now because, like QB A, he was a mid round pick.

Fair. But not a double standard.

 

[Sydla]

Fair. But not a double standard.

Dak is likely a fairly unique situation. I can't think of many QBs drafted where he was or even lower that had the initial success and blossomed. Brady is the closest and I am in no way claiming he's Brady. Wilson is another, but he was drafted higher than Prescott in the 3rd round.

At this point, it's really hard to discern where Dak will go in his career because he's a fairly unique case. Odds are he doesn't get better but that's a theory that applies to Wentz and others because when you look at all the QBs who have come through this league, say in the last decade, the majority have sucked or were mediocre and largely never improved.

Those that did improve over time isn't a huge number.

 

[Stash]

Double standard is a form of hypocrisy. It implies I used rules that impacted 2 people but only acknowledged one of them. Carson was never a mid round pick, so saying anything about mid round picks does not include him.

So you can call it incorrect analysis, you can try and twist into inter-fandom trolling, but to proclaim it an outright double standard is a lie and you know it.

No, your attempt to apply two different sets of rules - a double standard - and get away with it is the lie.