Where do you stand on Garrett and why?

[visionary]

He's 2nd behind Bellichek in wins the last 3 years or whatever, with what the same folks say has a bad QB at the helm and a terrible owner..not sure what more some of you want.
And who are you going to put in his place? For every Sean Mcvay there's 10 Ben Mcaddoos and Chip Kelly's

You must be a relatively new cowboys fan so you probably don't know that after the regular season is over the best teams get into something called 'the playoffs' then go to something called 'conference championship games' and the winners play in something known as 'the super bowl'

As an older fan of this team, I assure you that these are not just legends or imaginary things but I have personally seen the cowboys play in these games and actually win

They are real

That is the "more" real Cowboy fans want

 

[Blackrain]

It really dosent matter where I stand or any of us fans for that matter . Jerry stands in Garretts corner and will continue to do so because Garrett makes Jerry feel very comfortable.

He never challenges Jerrys authority and wins just enough to keep Jerry thinking we are right on the doorstep . Garrett dose some very good things for this team they just don't happen on game day. That's why IMO Garrett should be promoted to Assistant GM and a coach hired that could think on his feet enough in the moment to out coach the guy across from him once in a while .

Since this has very little chance of happening I view Garretts game day coaching as another one of the things in Jerrys Dysfunctional world that we have to work around as fans of the team . The easiest thing is to recognize this and alter your expectations accordingly .

In short pray for BIG Fred to come back strong our oline to be top 5 and Zeke to get 5yrds a crack . This makes Garrett look like COTY but we will still lose in the playoffs when everybody is good . This is the best we can hope for with Garrett as HC but hey it sure beats the heck out the NFL version of purgatory 8-8

 

[Dre11]

Rams game? we can not adjust a bunch formation with a TE, with 42 nickel? run and run absurd.
les dio miedo los pases profundos, 43 cov 3 quiza.

What are you talking about. We're talking about the year JG was interim coach.

 

[Dre11]

Not once have I heard anyone, fan or pundit, talk about another team being worried about coming in to Dallas and having to figure out a way to beat Garrett. Not once. They talk about having to beat the Cowboys. Shutting down Romo. Forcing Dak to win with his arm. Keeping Elliot in check. Finding a slow-motion LB to cover Witten. But I don't believe anyone comes in to our house and worries about Garrett out-coaching them.

I was a huge fan of his when he was appointed. I think he is an excellent motivator. I think his players trust him.

But no one fears him.

But yet he went 31-13 Over the last 3 SEASONS. Maybe those 31 times games, those coaches feared. Apparently he outcoach someone 31 times over the last 3 SEASONS...lol

 

[Dre11]

1) Penalties: Our Boys have routinely been one of the most penalized teams in the league under Garrett. A lot of the penalties have been simple mental mistakes. Good coaches find a way to correct these issues before they become bad habits.

2) Lost Play Calling Duties: Garrett was supposed to be an offensive guru when he was hired. Two years later he had to give up the play calling duties because he couldn't handle it. He decided to give the job to Callahan.

3) One Sided Offense: Garrett clearly hates running the ball. In 2012, the Boys threw the ball on 66 percent of their offensive plays and followed that up with 65 percent in 2013. The NFL has certainly become more pass happy, but Garrett has taken it too far with a lot of the fourth quarter meltdowns.

4) Our D Keeps Getting Worse: Garrett isn't a defensive minded coach. What separates the good coaches from the rest is their ability to hire good assistants to do the things they don't excel at. Garrett has no idea what is going on with our D and can't seem to hire the right people.

5) His Teams Don't Improve: Going 8-8 for three straight seasons just about sums everything up for the Spitting Clapper. His teams have shown no improvement from year to year. The same mistakes are continually made. At this point, the Boys have become the child who is determined to fit a square peg into a round hole. Fortunately for Garrett, his Papa boss Jerry, who isn't smart enough to tell the child it won't work.

So you just regard the 12-4,13-3, 10-6,9-7 records.
Yet quick to point out 8-8 . Priceless

 

[Dre11]

There were two main factors for the turnaround last season. Getting Amari Cooper was huge and Washington losing Alex Smith was the other. Washington had a two game lead in the division when Smith went out, and might have held on to win the division if Smith doesn't get hurt.

They were just as bad with Alex all year. They couldn't score points all year , even with Alex. It was so bad here, that many Commanders fans thought Colt would do better. That lead was hollow.

 

[Idgit]

So you just regard the 12-4,13-3, 10-6,9-7 records.
Yet quick to point out 8-8 . Priceless

8-8 with some comparatively weak teams isn’t exactly a knock, anyway.

 

[Fire407]

But yet he went 31-13 Over the last 3 SEASONS. Maybe those 31 times games, those coaches feared. Apparently he outcoach someone 31 times over the last 3 SEASONS...lol

How do you another coach wouldn't have gone 32-12 or 33-11 over the same period with the talent on the roster? The record doesn't mean Garrett was getting the most out of the team--especially with playoff wins.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I would like to improve on him. I think he is a lot better than people give him credit for considering the 9 pro bowlers he has drafted and developed and of course most of the homegrown team.

He is not innovative or intuitive when it comes to game planning and calling.

A guy like Sean Payton becomes available in a year or two then I'm completely on board. This notion that we can easily do better is folly.

 

[csirl]

I like Garrett as a person. I think he's a good guy.

However, I think we need a coaching change. The team is young and talented. It should be challenging for the SB. But the coaching is stale.

 

[Pompey-Cowboy]

Has anyone said "his throat"? I couldn't be bothered to read 14 pages.

Personally I have no problem with him but acknowledge that he is only just above average.

 

[OmerV]

The first half of my thread was serious, the second half was truth no matter if anyone agrees or not.

You didn’t start the thread ... unless you are the same guy as Ranching but using a second ID.

 

[Scotman]

But yet he went 31-13 Over the last 3 SEASONS. Maybe those 31 times games, those coaches feared. Apparently he outcoach someone 31 times over the last 3 SEASONS...lol

We have a good team and a lot of talent and that translates into wins.

I will happily stand corrected if you can point to any article, any video, any online source that said our coach was better than...or gives us the edge over... ANY other head coach.

 

[JMech]

Most if you know I think Garrett sucks, and those of you that have been around for a while know my reasoning. In a nutshell, I think he's arrogant, back stabbed Wade, and has no clue how to properly manage the flow of a game and much less during crunch time. @Idgit is on the other side of the spectrum. He loves his red headed Jesus. Why? I have no clue. Where do you stand and why?

He should have been gone years ago. He is not a difference maker as a coach.

I pose one question.......When Jerry first signed him as HC, supposedly Baltimore wanted to sign him. Had Baltimore been successful in landing him as coach, tell me if you seriously believe he would have won a SB with that team? I for one do not. Baltimore can count their blessings and send Jerry photos of their SBs.

Harbaugh>>>>>RHG

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

I'm all in Ok with getting a new HC. I don't think Garrett will lead us to the promised land although he can get us in position to start the journey (good enough regular season coach). In the playoffs the coaching needs to be exceptional and this includes game planning and in game strategies).

My whole problem with getting a new HC is the guy who makes that decision ... his track record can suck pretty badly in this department. (I'm thinking of the Switzer and Campos hires).

 

[Montanalo]

Personally, I would have replaced him 3-4 years ago. I base my comment on two observations: first and foremost, it is rare that I feel he out-coaches the opposition. More often than, it seems as as though his approach is "we have a game plan and we're going to stick to it regardless what the opposition does". This seems particularly apparent with half-time adjustments.

Second, for the overall level of talent that the Cowboy's have had during JG's tenure, I have felt he has generally under-delivered.

Admittedly, the past 3 years have been an improvement. Nonetheless, I would still like to see him gone.

 

[JoeKing]

The situation with Garrett will work itself out. There is a reason he has not received an extension by the Jones family. They want to see how this 2019 season pans out first. I believe there is a plan in place to replace him if he does not deliver us at least an NFC championship.

 

[eromeopolk]

Most if you know I think Garrett sucks, and those of you that have been around for a while know my reasoning. In a nutshell, I think he's arrogant, back stabbed Wade, and has no clue how to properly manage the flow of a game and much less during crunch time. @Idgit is on the other side of the spectrum. He loves his red headed Jesus. Why? I have no clue. Where do you stand and why?

Considering Jason Garrett was a player under Jimmy Johnson, Jim Fassel (who groomed Sean Payton to an OC), Sean Payton (OC during his time with Giants), Jon Gruden, coached under Nick Saban, and his father was a recognized scout that spent +16 years with the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett is a total disappointment as a HC and OC.

Jason Garrett grew up with access to Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Chan Gailey, and Bill Parcells as Cowboys Head Coaches. Undoubtedly he was not a student of the game.

He was not as advertised. He did not listen to Jimmy Johnson's advice to have both offensive and defensive coordinators (see Jerry Jones "walk around Head Coach" comments). Jerry Jones allowed Garrett to learn on the job to be a coordinator, head coach, and Garrett failed at both. Garrett rode on the coat tails of others coaches like Ray Sherman, Tony Sparano as OC, Todd Bowles, Sean Payton, and sabotaged Son of a Bum as HC.

The Dallas Cowboys Head Coaching bar has been lowered for Garrett to succeed. Now Cowboy fans just want to make the playoffs vs. winning Super Bowls.

Finally, he has nothing to add in personnel development (like Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells) or coaching innovation (like Tom Landry) to remain as Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Dre11]

I don't necessarily believe the narrative that is constantly spread here that the players don't quit on Garrett. They quit all the time---just look at the Colts game last season. I think once Garrett is gone, the current players will be more honest about what it was like to play for him. We already know that some former players didn't like him. They had made the playoffs twice with Wade Phillips. I would have given Wade another year or 2 based on his past success. Jerry wanted to pull the trigger in 2010 after the slow start to give his "son" the job and the narrative quickly became that the players quit on Wade. I didn't really have a problem with Wade being fired, but his OC and assistant HC should have been fired right along with him. Anyway, its worked out pretty well for Wade. They love him in LA and he's been to two Super Bowls while Garrett has been to zero.

They were beat, it wasn't quit, they won 3 straight after tha

How do you another coach wouldn't have gone 32-12 or 33-11 over the same period with the talent on the roster? The record doesn't mean Garrett was getting the most out of the team--especially with playoff wins.

I don't know, but they didn't he did.

 

[Dre11]

We have a good team and a lot of talent and that translates into wins.

I will happily stand corrected if you can point to any article, any video, any online source that said our coach was better than...or gives us the edge over... ANY other head coach.

Name 1 coach that win with no talent...lol
I believe players win games, but none of you claim the talent wins for any other coach. But when it comes to JG, when we win its someone else, when we lose it JG, he gets all blame and none of the credit....lol how does that happen