Video: Fair and balanced analysis of Dak Prescott

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Liability? No, it's simple. Numbers for QBs are up compared to what they were in the past, because the game changes. The rules are different and things are easier for QBs in general. Thus, QBs who have only played more recently with more rules in their favor will tend to have higher numbers.

It's why we don't say Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman sucked based on their passer ratings compared to what we see today.


It doesn't explain why those young QB's aren't sitting atop all of those lists.



Wentz and Goff are trending better. Mahomes likely will be, but since he really just has one year (+1 game), you can't say there is a trend. But as with Dak, those are also pretty small sample sizes/trends.

No, they're not. Here are the actual, unfudged, numbers:

https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_3=2018&player_id3=PresDa01&idx=players


You can compare him to other players today. But, using a 3 year sample size in the most prolific passing period in NFL history as a basis of historical comparison is just foolhardy.
Sorry, the guy you're attempting to minimize has only been in the league 3 years.

And no, I provided proof of the fact that in 2018 those numbers are middle of the road. How can you argue they are not? They are hard numbers, nothing more.

Anyone else seeing this? The blatant hypocrisy being clearly shown here?

Someone who says that "using a 3 year sample size is foolhardy" and then trying to use a 1 year (2018) "sample size"?

You're just making things look worse and worse for you. You should just let it go and quit while you're behind.
 

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Draw an imaginary V centered on the field. Outside the V is where his passes like to go. I would like to hear more about how he can beat a defense over the middle.

And i can see other responses, excuses excuses excuses blinders blinders blinders. It's ok to root for your team and players btw, just not understanding the complete disregard of what we actually see and get, like the sensitivity from criticism is through the roof. Its not personal, don't make it that.

2018 Passer Rating table for Passes in the middle third of the field (All Distances).

 

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Draw an imaginary V centered on the field. Outside the V is where his passes like to go. I would like to hear more about how he can beat a defense over the middle.

And i can see other responses, excuses excuses excuses blinders blinders blinders. It's ok to root for your team and players btw, just not understanding the complete disregard of what we actually see and get, like the sensitivity from criticism is through the roof. Its not personal, don't make it that.


 

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I have no idea what those numbers mean. I see a 15 on the outer edge, is that yards down field? And what are the numbers in the bubbles?
 

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Yeah. He's neither a rookie nor a third your QB. I appreciate the webster link but not sure what it is I should be looking up. I know what rookie means and I know what a 3rd year QB is.
He's yet to play his fourth year so all this is being based on a 3rd year qb.
 

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He's yet to play his fourth year so all this is being based on a 3rd year qb.

The Season has already started. He's not a third year QB. He's a 4th year QB but whatever, I don't believe that I need a dictionary to help me understand the difference. He's not a third year guy.
 

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Some of us actually put in the work, funny that you can't and then have the nerve to expect it of others?

Notice your own hypocrisy at work here?



https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_3=2018&player_id3=PresDa01&idx=players

Here's his first three years' worth of numbers and how he comes out ahead of both of his contemporaries. Even for the clearly biased, you're not going to find a more balanced comparison. And Dak has outperformed both of them. One of whom just got paid a boatload of money.

That first one is free, but do the rest of the clearly-needed homework on your own.
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I have put in too much work to no avail for the day fanatics and dad lovers alike.... they are helpless...no hypocrisy, I have done on 10 different occasions....not about to do it an eleventh time...no hypocrisy except whomever is remaining DakLovers is helpless cause. waste of time. they will believe what they will. that's what love does. it blinds you.

good luck with whatever it is your are trying to prove.
 

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The Season has already started. He's not a third year QB. He's a 4th year QB but whatever, I don't believe that I need a dictionary to help me understand the difference. He's not a third year guy.
His performance to date is from up to his 3rd year.
 

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I liked how the commenter prescribed the same thing for Dak that's currently being tried.

Here's hoping all of that work they're doing for stretching his passing abilities goes well.
 

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I guess it depends on who you ask. Aikman has said that guys are either accurate or they aren't. Garrett has said that people who throw the deep ball well practice it a lot, and the guy who did the video seems to believe that it can be improved through repetition. If OTA reports are legit then it sounds like he is throwing the ball more accurately.

We'll know pretty quickly in the preseason if it is going to be more of the same or if Dak takes the next step as a passer.

Aikman certainly didn't mean that QB's cant improve from college with accuracy. Not his intention at all.

By more of the same what do you mean? Pro bowls, playoffs, clutch QB play, game wining drives? That sort of thing?

Dak does NOT have an accuracy problem. That has been overblown. What he has needed to work on was accuracy in certain situations when he is pressured and his mechanics have come into play. Or you could say consistency.

Part of the problem was also anticipation and comfort with who he is throwing to.
 

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He made the pro-bowl because he replaced a guy after two others replaced guys. He was actually the 3rd alternate. Meaning 6th out of 16 NFC QBs.

Agree with the playoffs comment but wish people would stop talking about the pro-bowl like it means anything anymore.

Hes made the pro bowl twice in 3 years. So which pro bowl season are you referring to?

It doesn't mean anything to a troll like you because it doesn't suit your agenda.

QB rating, winning seasons, playoffs, playoff wins, leading the NFL in game winning drives the past 3 years? Does any of that mean anything troll?

Agenda?

Tissues?
 

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Who knows. Dak has been improving for 3 years but the Cowboys did better his rookie year.

One would hope.
I think Dak and Elliot slid backwards in 2017, started poorly in 2018, and then got better as they went along, then amari
motivated whole team, and they won what 6 games in a row.
So to me Dak went backwards with cowboy coaching. Maybe now he will actually start to go forward again.
But as with any QB , coaching matters, the other players matter, motivation matters, Dak cant do a lot better all on his own,
would be nice to have help from coaches and team mates.
 

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I think Dak and Elliot slid backwards in 2017, started poorly in 2018, and then got better as they went along, then amari
motivated whole team, and they won what 6 games in a row.
So to me Dak went backwards with cowboy coaching. Maybe now he will actually start to go forward again.
But as with any QB , coaching matters, the other players matter, motivation matters, Dak cant do a lot better all on his own,
would be nice to have help from coaches and team mates.

There is no backwards buddy. For the most part, players don't go backwards unless its injury. It has happened, but not typically. And certainly NOT players like zeke and Dak. Now getting old, sure.

Its pretty obvious what happened. Clear as day. The Oline went south, receivers were bad the first half of the year.
 

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First off, this analysis is good. He's a college QB on a DIV III team.

Second, he made a solid take. Now compare that to Aikman's analysis of Dak's accuracy and they're both similar. Scary! Aikman scaled back his remarks in a few weeks after making them though.

Bottom line....Dak's a winner. He has the brains and the ability to be an NFL QB, and he's proven so. According to news from OTAs he's hitting the open receivers majority-of-the-time.
 

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still meaningless drivel.... you are either a rookie or you are not...you are not a rookie TO a 3rd year QB.... you are either a 3rd year QB or you are not...

smh!!

No, the phrase "rookie to 3rd year QBs" is not the same as "rookie 3rd year QBs".

Correct Sentence:
"Most rookie to 3rd year QBs improve as they get more experience."

Incorrect Sentence:
"Most rookie 3rd year QBs improve as they get more experience."
 
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