Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

[Whirlwin]

You are ripping Mahomes on many post and saying that Prescott is better than some top tier QBs, you are implying this point when all your post are taken in totally.

Schemes are different, but I can say with out a doubt, put Prescott in Kansas City and he would not throw for 5000 yards or 50 touchdowns. Doesn't have the ability.

You point out a couple of games for Prescott being able to pass, but he has played in 48 games. Those games are outliers. I believe the other 95+ percent to be the true indicators of Prescott's passing abilities.

The one comment you made is a classic, "throwing for yardage means absolutely nothing", in a passing league no less. A quarterback's ability to throw the ball is everything!

Constructive criticism is not ripping a quarterback. It was just the first game I saw him play where he was totally out of sync. The Patriots rattled him consistently. I can't wait to see what happens this season. Will he grow from it.

 

[Blue&Silver]

How would you rank Dak Prescott among the better QBs in the NFL ?

(in my book)
1 Tom Brady NE
2 Pat Mahomes KC
3 Aaron Rodgers GB
4 Drew Brees NO
5 Russell Wilson Sea
6 Jared Goff LARa
7 Matt Ryan ATL
8 Phillip Rivers LAC
9 Carlson Wentz Phil
10 Andrew Luck Indy
11 Ben Roesthlisberger Pitt
12 Deshaun Watson Hou
13 DAK PRESCOTT Dal * *
14 Matthew Stafford Det
15 Baker Mayfield Clev
16 Derek Carr Oak
17 Cam Newton Car
18 Mitch Trubisky Chic
19 Nick Foles Jax
20 Kirk Cousins Minn

I'm going to rank him about 16. I give the edge to Newton, and Stafford. I don't think Nick Foles belongs on that list. In some areas he's better than Prescott, and a lot of other quarterbacks on that list, but game for game he hasn't shown the consistency it takes to lead a team through a 16 game schedule and into the playoffs. In the playoffs yeah, I probably take him before any quarterback on that list not named Brady, or Rogers.

 

[Whirlwin]

You are ripping Mahomes on many post and saying that Prescott is better than some top tier QBs, you are implying this point when all your post are taken in totally.

Schemes are different, but I can say with out a doubt, put Prescott in Kansas City and he would not throw for 5000 yards or 50 touchdowns. Doesn't have the ability.

You point out a couple of games for Prescott being able to pass, but he has played in 48 games. Those games are outliers. I believe the other 95+ percent to be the true indicators of Prescott's passing abilities.

The one comment you made is a classic, "throwing for yardage means absolutely nothing", in a passing league no less. A quarterback's ability to throw the ball is everything!

Here you go with speculation. Prescott absolutely has the ability. Approved it Giants game Ravens game. They let him loose. It's about scheme. Never Say Never you'll have to eat your words. More often than not

 

[visionary]

Stafford or Carr? Yuck.

A qbs job is to read the defense and throw with anticipation

Both are better than Dak

Give them a real HC and they will win

Ive seen enough of Dak to know he will always be severely limited as a thrower in the NFL

 

[DFWJC]

When Romo was racking up high passing volume and losing, people wished he was more of a conservative game manager. They ignored the yards and touchdowns and complained about the interceptions.

When Dak was being a conservative game manager, and losing people wished he was more of a downfield gunslinger. They ignored the low rate of turnovers and complained about the lack of yards and touchdowns.

Maybe fans should ask how is it that Parcells went 10-6 with Qunicy Carter throwing 17 touchdowns, while Garrett went 8-8 in two seasons where Romo threw 30+ touchdowns.

Defense

 

[Rockport]

A qbs job is to read the defense and throw with anticipation

Both are better than Dak

Give them a real HC and they will win

Ive seen enough of Dak to know he will always be severely limited as a thrower in the NFL

Well this post proves that your football intelligence is severely limited.

 

[OmerV]

16TH at best as a QB.

What about as a great guy? Or as a guy with really cool dance moves? Or as a paint by the numbers artist?

 

[OmerV]

A qbs job is to read the defense and throw with anticipation

Both are better than Dak

Give them a real HC and they will win

Ive seen enough of Dak to know he will always be severely limited as a thrower in the NFL

So, you apparently are saying the Cowboys have a real head coach, and he is finding ways to cover for Dak. And we all thought Garrett sucked ...lol

 

[12+88=7]

When Romo was racking up high passing volume and losing, people wished he was more of a conservative game manager. They ignored the yards and touchdowns and complained about the interceptions.

When Dak was being a conservative game manager, and losing people wished he was more of a downfield gunslinger. They ignored the low rate of turnovers and complained about the lack of yards and touchdowns.

Maybe fans should ask how is it that Parcells went 10-6 with Qunicy Carter throwing 17 touchdowns, while Garrett went 8-8 in two seasons where Romo threw 30+ touchdowns.

What you missed is the level of defense being played.

When Romo was the QB the offense was top 5, but the defense was middle of the pack, and sometimes not even that.

Now Prescott is the QB and the defense is top 5, but the offense is middle of the pack, if that.

When Dallas won with Carter at QB, viola, it was the defense that was good and carried the team. And during those 8-8 seasons the defense left a lot to be desired.

Dallas would be SB favorites if they had Romo's offense with this current defense.

 

[12+88=7]

Yet it was the defense that blew the Rams game. Make no mistake about it Prescott is a winner

Didn't I say that. If the defense doesn't show up, Dallas loses. The reason I say that is because the offense is not good enough to overcome bad defensive performances.

Prescott is a winner when all falls into place. Prescott will truly be a "winner" when everything fails and Dallas still wins.

When Prescott can put the offense on his shoulders and carry it by himself. This is what makes all elite top QBs. The ability to be the straw that stirs the drink.

 

[12+88=7]

So you think because you get a lot of yardage passing makes you a better quarterback. Did you ever take into consideration that's not what this team is about. They don't want to overexpose the youngest defense in the league that's why we played ball controls Smash Mouth. I don't know what's going to happen this season but Prescott is a winner yes statistically he's top four

I rather have a team that scores 30 points a game to protect my defense. But Prescott doesn't have this ability so the offense has to play smash mouth to protect their QB.

 

[OmerV]

What you missed is the level of defense being played.

When Romo was the QB the offense was top 5, but the defense was middle of the pack, and sometimes not even that.

Now Prescott is the QB and the defense is top 5, but the offense is middle of the pack, if that.

When Dallas won with Carter at QB, viola, it was the defense that was good and carried the team. And during those 8-8 seasons the defense left a lot to be desired.

Dallas would be SB favorites if they had Romo's offense with this current defense.

Of course you are just describing 1 year under Dak. Last year was the only of his 3 years the defense was quality. It was near the bottom in 2017, and bottom half in 2016. Of course, the offense has gone the other way, dropping off from a great 2016 to a pretty blah 2018.

 

[visionary]

So, you apparently are saying the Cowboys have a real head coach, and he is finding ways to cover for Dak. And we all thought Garrett sucked ...lol

My post was in English so it is totally understandable that you couldn’t comprehend it

 

[quickccc]

I'm going to rank him about 16. I give the edge to Newton, and Stafford. I don't think Nick Foles belongs on that list. In some areas he's better than Prescott, and a lot of other quarterbacks on that list, but game for game he hasn't shown the consistency it takes to lead a team through a 16 game schedule and into the playoffs. In the playoffs yeah, I probably take him before any quarterback on that list not named Brady, or Rogers.

I actually have went back and forth on Nick Foles because when he has had to sub for Wentz, ..he's delivered in clutch situations. I've put him last only because he's been more backup rather than 16 game player, but he's outperformed a number of starters when he's had to start.

Something has elevated in his game since he's been rejuvenated under Doug Pederson, he started well under Andy Reid but somehow got lost before returning to form the last 2 years.
If not for Alshon Jeffries drop that led to INT vs Saints, Eagles would've had rematch vs Rams (which they won reg. season game in LA) in NFC title game.
From the eye ball test, I like Foles game management and decision making better than the overrated Kirk Cousins.
We'll have to see how Foles will fair with Jax Jags vs how he has been in Philly

-BTW, i'm not just sold on Bears Mitch Tribisky, as I think he's solid but not unique, not dynamic, not an A-tier level QB. i'm not yet convinced.
-and I don't think I listed Niners Kimmy Grarrapolo, as he's only been a handful of reg season game QB who has been as brittle-fragile as they come.
He does have skills and promise, but not the body to sustain.

 

[Altestic]

20-27 range objectively.

 

[OmerV]

I rather have a team that scores 30 points a game to protect my defense. But Prescott doesn't have this ability so the offense has to play smash mouth to protect their QB.

How many QBs do have the ability to average 30 points a game? Usually 1-2 teams average 30 in any given season. The Cowboys were 5th in the NFL in scoring in 2016, so the team does have the ability to score with Dak.

 

[quickccc]

It was the defense that lead the team to the playoffs. The defense gave up 20.2 points a game last year. Make that number 27.2 and Dallas would have missed the playoffs.

The success of the team this year will once again be on the defense. The defense shows up, Dallas wins. If they don't, Dallas will lose.

I agree in regards to the Defense.
The last 3 times we have been in the playoffs, it's been the Defense that has failed us and had us ousted out of the playoffs, ..twice vs Aaron Rodgers (2014, 2016)
and last year in 2018, with Rams just flat out rolling all over our front seven.

 

[OmerV]

20-27 range objectively.

Possibly all the way down to 27 huh? You have journeymen, guys that throw as many INTs as TDs, has beens and never were's ahead of him do you?

 

[12+88=7]

Of course you are just describing 1 year under Dak. Last year was the only of his 3 years the defense was quality. It was near the bottom in 2017, and bottom half in 2016. Of course, the offense has gone the other way, dropping off from a great 2016 to a pretty blah 2018.

Not exactly true.

The three years of defensive play under Prescott have been better than just one year(2009) during Romo's entire career.

Romo started 10 years and only one year the defense was better than what Prescott has received, that's huge.

I'm telling you, Prescott has been quite fortunate. If Prescott had the defense Romo had during his career we wouldn't be having discussions about a new contract. The discussion would be about the "next" QB.

 

[Johnny23]

Carson Wentz no way better. And Mahomes the Patriots showed us middle pressure destroys him. Aaron Rodgers I'll take Prescott before him now any day. Mr Hail Mary put the ball up for grabs has lost it. I could go on and on but. Statistically he's in the top five. But who cares about statistics. , they are for your career not for anything else

Middle pressure destroys any QB. Grady Jarrett earned his big pay day in part blowing up the middle of Green Bay offensive line in the 2016 nfc championship game. In 2015 Malik Jackson and Derek Wolff blew up New England's stud OL and let Von and D-ware eat on the way to the super bowl.

I know as a cowboys fan middle pressure is foriegn concept to us. But the best get taken off their game and succomb to it. It is no knock on Mahomes.