Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

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You have Jimmy G at 12th overall in the league..... That's all we need to know to not listen to anything you have to say about rating QBs.
Garoppolo? That might be conservative after the 49ers win 11 games this year and JG becomes a darkhorse for the Pro Bowl/MVP.
 

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Mahomes lost that game. Because he took himself out of field-goal range. Prescott doesn't lose games. He might not win them but he doesn't lose them. Big difference. Screw Mahomes
Dak does wins games, you don't lead the league in come from behind wins the last 3 years because the defense won the game without getting turnovers.
 

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Garoppolo? That might be conservative after the 49ers win 11 games this year and JG becomes a darkhorse for the Pro Bowl/MVP.
See you are projecting what he will do and not what he has done. No way in hell is Jimmy G the 12th best QB in the league. Dak at this moment is by far better than Garoppolo and it's not even a question.

I bet anything you want Jimmy G isn't even top 5 in MVP conversation or probowl voting.

Dak
Ryan
Rodgers
Wilson
Brees
Wentz( if healthy)
Newton
Goff
Trubisky
Cousins

All would make the probowl before Jimmy G. With only taking 3 QBs haha
 

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This is my outlook for 2019. Basing this on how I think we would rank them based on stats. I'm not ranking rookie QBs since we just don't know about them.
1. Aaron Rodgers GB- I think he goes off this year, wins MVP and the division.
2. Andrew Luck Ind- He very well could win the MVP. Parris Cambell and Funchess with a healthy Doyle will only help.
3. Patrick Mahomes KC- If Tyreek plays he is number one. If not, his numbers will decline as they will double team Kelce. Need another weapon.
4. Carson Wentz Phi- I think he gets back to his 2017 form. Sorry but Howard, Sanders, and D Jax are going to help.
5. Baker Mayfield Cle- I believe the hype. Odell is going to have a major impact on this team.
6. Matt Ryan Atl- Still putting up impressive numbers. Needs the team to be healthy this year.
7. Russell Wilson Sea- Team will take a step back but not him. Dude makes crazy plays.
8. Tom Brady NE- If Gronk Plays he probably moves up a few spots. A lot of unproven players outside of Julian. Dink and dunk O.
9. Drew Brees NO- I think his play went down hill 2nd half of season. I think 2019 will be Brees' last unfortunately. Still very good but not top 3 good.
10. Dak Prescott Dal- Hard to put him higher but I think his play will explode with Kellen Moore and Randall Cobb will help.
11. Deshaun Watson Hou- I think he will have a pretty good year but will take a lot of hits. Healthy Deshaun may be top 5.
12. Philip Rivers LAC- I think he will put up impressive numbers for a playoff team. He has a few years left.
13. Jared Goff LAR- I think he takes a step back. I don't trust Gurley this year and it will hurt him. Awful Super Bowl performance.
14. Ben Roethlisberger Pit- They need someone to step up outside of JuJu or his numbers will go down. Could be his last year.
15. Nick Foles Jax- Terrible WR's around him but he is going to make everyone look good. Great for that locker room.
16. Jimmy G SF- I'm drinking the niners kool-aid. I could see him being top ten. They have a good defense and manageable schedule.
17. Cam Newton Car- Don' think he will ever return to MVP or Pro-Bowl Cam.
18. Sam Darnold NYJ- He could be a borderline top ten guy if all goes well. Iffy receivers around him.
19. Kirk Cousins Min- Until he can win Sunday afternoon and primetime games I'm not buying him.
20. Mitchell Trubisky Chi- Really think he is overrated and it will show this year. Don't like the weapons around him.
21. Matthew Stafford Det- On the down side of his career. Less and less around him.
22. Derek Carr Oak- Make or break year for Carr. Not sure he and Gruden will work.
23. Josh Rosen Mia- I could see him being in the top half of the NFL. I think he is ticked off. Hardly any talent around him.
24. Jameis Winston TB- Bruce will help a little but he just makes poor decisions.
25. Joe Flacco Den- I think Drew Lock will take over the second half of the season. Not elite.
26. Andy Dalton Cin- They lost two starters to an already poor O Line. He will have no time to throw. Probably his last year in Cincy.
27. Case Keenum Was- Not sure he even starts week one. Like Haskins a lot. Had one good season.
28. Eli Manning NYG- Giants fans adore Eli. Wouldn't shock me if he starts all 16 games but probably his last season in New York.
29. Marcus Mariota Ten- Can't throw and gets banged up. A lot of Titan fans are fed up with him.
30. Lamar Jackson Bal- I think he will get exposed this year. Lots of young weapons around him. Defense won't be as good meaning he will have to throw.
31. Josh Allen Buf- Just haven't been a fan of him. Had a respectable rookie year. Don't think he has the accuracy to get better.

For rookies:
Kyler- There is talent no doubt. But an often injured RB, young WRs and a terrible O Line. New HC that had a losing record as a college coach. Not good for a rookie QB.
Jones- I don't think he sees the field at all. The Giants are obsessed with Eli. He is probably #2 to them in that organization behind LT. I think he has gotten a lot of unfair treatment. Let's see how he looks in the preseason.
Haskins- I like him, just don't like he is in a place with terrible management. The O Line and RBs will help. Not sure he has good WRs.
Lock- I think he will start the second half of the season. I think he will be solid.
Finley- Could be the wild card of this class. I think Dalton has a terrible season and the Bengals may want to give him a shot at starting to see what he has.
I disagree with some rankings but I respect and pretty much agree with your list. Really like that you listed the reasons why you ranked the guys where you did.

I understand why you put Wentz that high but I disagree. At this moment, in my opinion, he should be around the 10-15 range. I get the Mayfield ranking too but at this moment not sure I can put him that high. I actually wanted to draft him last year when people said he would fall to 19, one of the only QBs I would take over Dak.... Trubisky is the other.

Anyways great job on the list
 

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I disagree with some rankings but I respect and pretty much agree with your list. Really like that you listed the reasons why you ranked the guys where you did.

I understand why you put Wentz that high but I disagree. At this moment, in my opinion, he should be around the 10-15 range. I get the Mayfield ranking too but at this moment not sure I can put him that high. I actually wanted to draft him last year when people said he would fall to 19, one of the only QBs I would take over Dak.... Trubisky is the other.

Anyways great job on the list
Thanks! I'm a teacher so I have a few weeks left of free time. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I won't cry if I'm wrong about Rodgers and Wentz
 

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So you praise Patrick Mahomes the guy who lost the football game because you ran backwards and took his team out of field-goal range. Imagine if Prescott did that. LMAO and slam Prescott. I see it the other way around. You don't like it oh well. I guess I just understand the scheme the franchise is playing better than you
Dak has done that.
 

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Great. Another Dak thread.

But a more meaningful one that usual.

"Dak great!"
"Dak sucks!"

That's not a helpful thread.

Ranking Dak in the context of other NFL QBs is an improvement to out of context love or hate.

And so far at least, I'm seeing more consensus. Low to mid teens.
So you're saying because Tom Brady doesn't run, Dak is somehow superior....?

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I understood exactly what I wrote. This is the new NFL this is about team this is about camaraderie this isn't about one person. Maybe I'm not the one that doesn't get it , what do you think quarterbacks win all by themselves.
Of course I don't think that.

The context of my comment was in response to YOU blaming Mahomes entirely for their loss.

Come on man.
 

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Thanks! I'm a teacher so I have a few weeks left of free time. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I won't cry if I'm wrong about Rodgers and Wentz
I think Rodgers is the best QB in the league or at worst top 3. I didn't like his attitude but I try and not use bias in my rankings.

You being a teacher explains the well thought out write up you gave. Enjoy the last few days of vacation.

You are wrong about Wentz haha
 

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Dak has done that.
Of course I don't think that.

The context of my comment was in response to YOU blaming Mahomes entirely for their loss.

Come on man.
Of course I'm going to blame Patrick Mahomes. He's not a Dallas Cowboy I'm going to torture him. Expect it on a Cowboys fan forum
 

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Sorry man. I HATE Rodgers more than anyone trust me but I think he bounces back this year. QB gets hurt and it takes a year for them to get back to form. Happened to Brady in 2009. He was an MVP the next season. I think Wentz bounces back too (assuming he stays healthy). A-Rog Only had two picks last year. I think he will play better without McCarthy. Regardless, he is top 5. I think they win that weak division and he will put up big numbers.
I don't think Carson Wentz bounces back I don't think he was that great to bounce back from. And no Aaron Rodgers has not been good for at least four seasons now. Prescott played him nose-to-nose in the playoff game
 

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Never mentioned any player, just a philosophy on how the offense should play.

But of course you have Prescott on the mind and believe it's a swipe at him.

This is what I mentioned in a previous post, you are so locked in on your position on Prescott that's how you read every post. Are they taking a swipe at my guy, even when they are not.
Do you not even understand what you wrote. You specifically said Prescott does not have the ability. How am I supposed to pre sieve that
 

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Dak does wins games, you don't lead the league in come from behind wins the last 3 years because the defense won the game without getting turnovers.
I know Prescott wins games can people take words out of content. With a different situation a different subject I was talking about and they chose to use my words in a different format. Go Cowboys
 

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Mahomes doesn't get the teamwork logic applied to him though?

Interesting
Not when you have the ball in your hands left and it's up to you to win or lose the game. Then it specifically on that player. Look I'm not giving Patrick Mahomes any love don't expect it don't wait for it not happening. I love the Patriots the way they destroyed him in that playoff game. They slacked off he produced they put pressure back on he sucked again. I can't wait to watch him this season
 

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Of course I don't think that.

The context of my comment was in response to YOU blaming Mahomes entirely for their loss.

Come on man.
But you can take my words out of content I understand hypocritical also. Maybe I'm guilty sometimes too but you can't cross reference different post and think you can use the words against a certain person.
 

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Of course I don't think that.

The context of my comment was in response to YOU blaming Mahomes entirely for their loss.

Come on man.
Look my cowboy brother I have been a fan of this franchise since day one in the military overseas all you could get was the Cowboys. How could you not love the star and what it represents. I know Prescott's weaknesses and I know his strengths. you also know that this is the youngest starting team in the league. College is the new NFL training camp. Players a thrown into the fire so quickly expecting to produce . For a fought round quarterback making it to the second round of the playoffs and people's thinks he sucks that's just rude ludachrist. Not saying you think you sucks but people do. I can't express how lucky we are to have this quarterback. I suffered through people like Randall Cunningham, after we lost Troy Aikman before Tony Romo. I know what it's like not to have a quarterback. And Prescott I trust. I have to use speak in text because I have neuropathy nerve damage in my fingers they sting when I type. Sometimes Google screws my words up excuse me for that.
 

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I know Prescott wins games can people take words out of content. With a different situation a different subject I was talking about and they chose to use my words in a different format. Go Cowboys
I get that. I was just laying that info out for people that said it's because of the defense. My thing is the defense isn't getting turnovers or getting points on the board. People want to say KC or Philly were scoring 30 points per game but that wasn't all offense. Special teams and defense were getting scores.

If the Dallas defense and special teams can start scoring or getting with big plays and turnovers then ppg will go up a ton.

Example. In the 17 season folks want to talk about how Wentz was MVP favorite. If you watched the games then you would see that their defense would get turnovers and Wentz got the ball in the redzone or within 30-40 yards of the endzone. Special teams were getting big plays allowing Wentz to have very short fields.
 
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