Twitter: Archer: Breakdown of Zeke's Contract

[Corso]

Haha! It’s only 3pm we will see where the evening takes us lol

Eh... my workday is done. 3 hours of fruitful stuff and I'm happy as happy can be.
Now I'll hang here for another hour, or two before wifey comes home and we put music on and cook and watch whatever together and we fool around.

Great day.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

I’m missing something I’m sure, but isn’t the tag an avg of the top five position salaries?

Yes it is the average of the top five at that position.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Almost every person looking at this from the outside says the cowboys got played, that Elliot destroyed the Jones’ and that this is going to be an awful contract.

No one from the outside looking in has said, “what a great job by the team.” They pretty much unanimously agree it is a terrible contract and that the team gained nothing and bowed down to Elliot’s demands.

Except for CowboysZone, where the overwhelming consensus is that this is a great deal.

You can criticize the contract and want the player to do well.

 

[viman96]

RB salaries are going up. Not as fast as many other positions but they are increasing. The last few RB contracts show this to be the case as well as teams willing to draft RBs in the top 5. Melvin Gordon likely will be in the $10M+ and Barkley in 2-3 years will easily be $15M-$16M+.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Eh... my workday is done. 3 hours of fruitful stuff and I'm happy as happy can be.
Now I'll hang here for another hour, or two before wifey comes home and we put music on and cook and watch whatever together and we fool around.

Great day.

Hey brother sounds like a great night! Enjoy it

 

[Wolfpack]

It’s a fair deal for both sides.

 

[CapnCook]

If 4yr/$50mil is how one spins it, then I propose it was a 2yr/$37.1mil extension. They had him under contract for $12.9 already.

So, we can credit Zeke for getting more in his next two years, and credit the organization for rolling his rookie deal into the numbers needed to make him the highest paid/guaranteed back in the NFL.

The team eats most of the guarantee early. If they needed to, they could restructure before 2022's $12.4mil hits the books and kick some of the can down the road.

Both sides did ok. But my thoughts are still Jerry blinked and Zeke feasted. I trust the organization's ability to manage the cap hit down the road.

 

[Corso]

RB salaries are going up. Not as fast as many other positions but they are increasing. The last few RB contracts show this to be the case as well as well as teams willing to draft RBs in the top 5. Melvin Gordon likely will be in the $10M+ and Barkley in 2-3 years will easily be $15M-$16M+.

Good point. Some people can't see the nose beyond their face.

 

[Corso]

Hey brother sounds like a great night! Enjoy it

Any movie ideas?
I'm thinking something 50's-60's and sci-fi...

 

[Fletch]

from the looks of this, it is a very good contract structure and gives both parties what they wanted....kudos to the FO

Scoff! We got screwed! We will rue the daaaay!

 

[AbeBeta]

This is a major win for Jerry and Stephen, for the team and really even for Zeke. This is actually much less then I thought he would get but it's about what I thought he was worth. Now, I don't think that it's impossible that we see another renegotiation at some point either. I mean, this is really a 4 year deal but I could see the team reevaluating if they needed to or wanted to.

If this is the real deal, I'm really happy with this.

Man, had you been paying attention to what everyone was saying about this looking like Gurley's deal, you wouldn't be surprised right now

 

[CowboyStar88]

Any movie ideas?
I'm thinking something 50's-60's and sci-fi...

I would’ve said somethings 80’s-ish

 

[Corso]

I would’ve said somethings 80’s-ish

I'm open! Throw it at me!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Man, had you been paying attention to what everyone was saying about this looking like Gurley's deal, you wouldn't be surprised right now

Your story, you tell it. Mean time, this is almost exactly what I posted as the target contract for Zeke. There really isn't much you can say to me that is going to ruin the day. This is a good deal and right on target IMO.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I'm open! Throw it at me!

Flash Dance
Last American Virgin
Beverly Hills cop
Real Genius
St. Elmo’s Fire
The untouchables

There’s a lot of good 80’s flicks

 

[Proof]

Yes it is the average of the top five at that position.

so isn’t it gurley at 14, bell at like 12 and freeman at 8 or so?

 

[Corso]

Flash Dance
Last American Virgin
Beverly Hills cop
Real Genius
St. Elmo’s Fire
The untouchables

There’s a lot of good 80’s flicks

We've seen 'em all.
Throw me something obscure. And let's do this DM. We're about to derail stuff here and I've been banned enough.

 

[Stash]

Any movie ideas?
I'm thinking something 50's-60's and sci-fi...

If you're looking to get a certain vibe going...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/?ref_=ttls_li_tt

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

So I just did a quick number crunch on what it would have cost to keep him under his current deal (which he was holding out from) and then to franchise tag him for 2021 and 2022. He was set to cost $17 million on the cap for the next two years, and then cost to tag him for two years would have been at a minimum $15 million a year, and likely a lot more by then.

Add that up, and it's at least $48 million, with absolutely no guarantees afterwards. This deal pays virtually the same thing and gives the club four option years after 2022.

So how did they "lose"?

As you know a ton of this is wrong, which you've probably already realized

Running back franchise tag year 1- $11.2M
Running back franchise tag year 2(1.2x)- $13.5M

Instead we have him at $31.5M over 5hose two years

And you didnt include the $6.5M dead cap hit incurred.

So we gave him long term security for an extra $13.5M assuming we cut him after year four.

Let's say the RB tag goes up some over next two years, still wont even come close to that figure.

Like the effort, but the math is incredibly misleading and its unfortunate so many liked your post with wrong info.

 

[Stash]

As you know a ton of this is wrong, which you've probably already realized

Running back franchise tag year 1- $11.2M
Running back franchise tag year 2(1.2x)- $13.5M

Instead we have him at $31.5M over 5hose two years

And you didnt include the $6.5M dead cap hit incurred.

So we gave him long term security for an extra $13.5M assuming we cut him after year four.

Let's say the RB tag goes up some over next two years, still wont even come close to that figure.

Like the effort, but the math is incredibly misleading and its unfortunate so many liked your post with wrong info.

Where are your $11.2 and $13.5 million coming from?