Dak > Matt Ryan

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dak has already climbed this mountain. WAtching game and Matt’s not as sharp as Dak. Of course he can’t run either.
I’m as excited as anyone about how Dak is looking, but let’s give it more than 2 games before making these kinds of determinations. Small sample sizes don’t result in consistently reliable decisions.
 

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I’m as excited as anyone about how Dak is looking, but let’s give it more than 2 games before making these kinds of determinations. Small sample sizes don’t result in consistently reliable decisions.
Blah. Let's stop with the "let's give it more than" responses, bro.

It's crystal clear today's Dak is new and improved thanks to Coaches Jon Kitna, Kellen Moore and others. Dak is clearly a better QB than Matt Ryan and many others right now.
 

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I cant see dak having the biggest meltdown in superbowl history being unable to even muster 3 pts in a half to seal the deal in the biggest game of his life. Yes Dak> Ryan. Ryan has had weapons like weapons
Wr- Roddy white, Julio Jones, Ridley
Rb- Micharl turner, Freeman, Colenan
Te- Gonzalez, Hooper
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Also while we are talking about comparisons, here is one for you:

Witten without toupee > Witten with toupee

I am sure a large percentage of football fans would also prefer him catching passes and scoring TDs rather than behind the booth on MNF.
 

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dak has already climbed this mountain. WAtching game and Matt’s not as sharp as Dak. Of course he can’t run either.

LOL......is this the first game you have EVER watched Ryan.

The first quarter of the Atlanta game has NOTHING to do with who is better. LOL
 

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Blah. Let's stop with the "let's give it more than" responses, bro.

It's crystal clear today's Dak is new and improved thanks to Coaches Jon Kitna, Kellen Moore and others. Dak is clearly a better QB than Matt Ryan and many others right now.

Dak right now has probably a top 5 Oline, A top 5 RB, top 5 pass catchers, and finally has a REAL OC. He has about everything a QB could hope for save a dominant defense.
 

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Dak right now has probably a top 5 Oline, A top 5 RB, top 5 pass catchers, and finally has a REAL OC. He has about everything a QB could hope for save a dominant defense.
So, you're saying Matt Ryan is currently a better QB than Dak?
 

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So, you're saying Matt Ryan is currently a better QB than Dak?

I would take Dak. Ryan is on the downside and Dak is coming of age.

However Ryan has had several seasons in his career like Dak is having now. Last year he threw for nearly 5000 yards and 35 tD's. He was 5 minutes away from a SB trophy several years ago.

They are two completely different QB's

Dak has improved, but just as important is the team around him has improved and the coaching has dramatically improved.

You stick Garrett back calling the offense and take away Tyron Smith and Frederick and Dak isnt having the kind of games he is having now.

QB's need quality players around them to play to their potential.

What I like most about Dak is that when he has had quality players around him, he produces at a very high level. Even as a rookie.
 

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Blah. Let's stop with the "let's give it more than" responses, bro.

It's crystal clear today's Dak is new and improved thanks to Coaches Jon Kitna, Kellen Moore and others. Dak is clearly a better QB than Matt Ryan and many others right now.
Sure Dak looks better, and is better, and I’m excited as hell about it, but expecting it to be like this every game, or believing that time won’t tell a more clear tale is foolishness. There is a reason a QB doesn’t get credit for having the best QB rating, or a RB doesn’t get credit for winning the rushing championship 2 weeks into a season. Ryan has been a very good QB for several years, and to declare Dak the better player after 2 games is premature. Time may bear that out, but it’s nonsense to ignore the really undeniable fact that time is needed for it to be verifiable.
 

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I would take Dak. Ryan is on the downside and Dak is coming of age.

However Ryan has had several seasons in his career like Dak is having now. Last year he threw for nearly 5000 yards and 35 tD's. He was 5 minutes away from a SB trophy several years ago.

They are two completely different QB's

Dak has improved, but just as important is the team around him has improved and the coaching has dramatically improved.

You stick Garrett back calling the offense and take away Tyron Smith and Frederick and Dak isnt having the kind of games he is having now.

QB's need quality players around them to play to their potential.

What I like most about Dak is that when he has had quality players around him, he produces at a very high level. Even as a rookie.
Take Matt Ryan's weapons away, and he will stink.
 

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Sure Dak looks better, and is better, and I’m excited as hell about it, but expecting it to be like this every game, or believing that time won’t tell a more clear tale is foolishness. There is a reason a QB doesn’t get credit for having the best QB rating, or a RB doesn’t get credit for winning the rushing championship 2 weeks into a season. Ryan has been a very good QB for several years, and to declare Dak the better player after 2 games is premature. Time may bear that out, but it’s nonsense to ignore the really undeniable fact that time is needed for it to be verifiable.
Disagree. RIGHT NOW Dak is a better QB than Matt Ryan.
 

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Take Matt Ryan's weapons away, and he will stink.

That is my point. Take away the weapons around a QB, and they dont play so well. Ryan has a better arm than Dak. Everything else I give to Dak. Although if Dak keeps throwing the ball like he has the past two weeks he wont Ryan wont even have that on him.
 

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Take Matt Ryan's weapons away, and he will stink.
You don’t think Amari, Gallup, Cooper, Zeke, and several All Pro O-Linemen help Dak?

Come on ... Dak is looking great, and there is a hell of a lot for Cowboy fans to be excited about, but let’s at least keep our wits about us.
 

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You don’t think Amari, Gallup, Cooper, Zeke, and several All Pro O-Linemen help Dak?

Come on ... Dak is looking great, and there is a hell of a lot for Cowboy fans to be excited about, but let’s at least keep our wits about us.
You honestly believe overall (arm talent, legs, brains and savvy) Matt Ryan is better than Dak right now?
 
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