McClay Leads the Division in Drafting Pro Bowl Players

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Interesting factoid for Jon Machota's article in The Athletic this morning:

McClay has helped draft six players who have gone on to make at least one Pro Bowl. The group, which consists of Zack Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Jones, Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott and Leighton Vander Esch, has combined for 13 Pro Bowl appearances, most of any team since 2014. The other three NFC East teams have combined for a total of 10. The same group of six stars has been named first- or second-team All-Pro a combined 10 times, which also tops all teams’ draft picks since 2014.

The only first-round miss in the bunch is Charlton.
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Anyone that is over 45 years of age and enjoyed old school football needs to revamp their ideas based on the new rules.

Happy for Dak. Keep it up kid.
 

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I thought the 3-4, 4-3 draft board thing was reported in multiple places to be a myth.

It was simply that Jerry, since he was the GM, wasn't managing the flow of information properly and it all came to head in that draft where the scouts had said Floyd was the guy but Marinelli then told Jerry he wanted no part of Floyd at all. It was from that point, Jerry knew he needed a "GM" type to handle the true day to day stuff a GM does in working up to the draft.
 

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You must be mistaken. I've heard numerous times on this board that Rod Marinelli (perhaps with Jason Garrett's support) makes draft picks. Which is odd because Garrett is just Jerry's puppet. But Stephen is really running the show. Clear as mud?
 

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Gee, Nobody talks about how great it was for Rod to hate Floyd. Instead we get nonsense about his excitement over 7th rounders and his desire for Taco (who was, actually McClay's guy. Rod liked a different bust).

Is that last part accurate?

For example, Bob Sturm said this........

Marinelli, the longtime NFL defensive line guru and current Cowboys defensive coordinator, was a significant factor in Dallas drafting Charlton with the 28th overall pick. They would not have made that pick if Marinelli had not signed off.
 

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And once the Forum picks a guy to take the blame, you either want them executed by firing squad or you are a pom pom waiving cheerleader.
I want the culprit executed by sharks with friggin’ lasers.
 

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Interesting factoid for Jon Machota's article in The Athletic this morning:

McClay has helped draft six players who have gone on to make at least one Pro Bowl. The group, which consists of Zack Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Jones, Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott and Leighton Vander Esch, has combined for 13 Pro Bowl appearances, most of any team since 2014. The other three NFC East teams have combined for a total of 10. The same group of six stars has been named first- or second-team All-Pro a combined 10 times, which also tops all teams’ draft picks since 2014.

The only first-round miss in the bunch is Charlton.

I'm glad that these things have to be brought out now in the great PR effort to wash away the stench of the Taco Charlton failure.

It's not transparent at all.
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Gee, Nobody talks about how great it was for Rod to hate Floyd. Instead we get nonsense about his excitement over 7th rounders and his desire for Taco (who was, actually McClay's guy. Rod liked a different bust).

False.
 
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The Taco pick was a failure. No question about it. And McClay deserves his share of the blame. He doesn't go scott free on this one. It should have been Watt

But based on his body of work, he's been an excellent addition to the team.

In fact, all the hand wringing regarding salary cap and paying Dak, Zeke, the o-line, Jaylon, Byron, etc. is because these were all excellent drafts picks. Add in LVE, Chido, and others and it's clear the positives greatly outweigh the negatives regarding McClay.
 

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How about some context here?

Here are the defensive lineman New England drafted from 2010 through 2016:

Brandon Deaderick
Kade Weston
Chandler Jones
Jake Bequette
Michael Buchanan
Dominique Easley
Zach Moore
Malcom Brown
Geneo Grissom
Trey Flowers
Vincent Valentine

Not one guy is still on the New England roster. Most are gone from the league. 1st round draft pick Easley was waived after two seasons in New England.
 

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How about some context here?

Here are the defensive lineman New England drafted from 2010 through 2016:

Brandon Deaderick
Kade Weston
Chandler Jones
Jake Bequette
Michael Buchanan
Dominique Easley
Zach Moore
Malcom Brown
Geneo Grissom
Trey Flowers
Vincent Valentine

Not one guy is still on the New England roster. Most are gone from the league. 1st round draft pick Easley was waived after two seasons in New England.

This has been tried already. Easley's issues were injury related. Not the case for Taco at all.
 
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How about some context here?

Here are the defensive lineman New England drafted from 2010 through 2016:

Brandon Deaderick
Kade Weston
Chandler Jones
Jake Bequette
Michael Buchanan
Dominique Easley
Zach Moore
Malcom Brown
Geneo Grissom
Trey Flowers
Vincent Valentine

Not one guy is still on the New England roster. Most are gone from the league. 1st round draft pick Easley was waived after two seasons in New England.
I just don't think Belichek values d-lineman. He let Richard Seymour, Chandler Jones, Jabbal Sheard and Trey Flowers walk rather than paying them. Doesn't matter. He still wins Super Bowls.

He pays more attention to the back end. He brought in guys like Talib, Revis and Gilmour. He keeps guys like Chung and McCourty. D-lineman are interchangable in Belichek's mind. Sure, many of the above were bad picks. But he doesn't care.
 
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