The praise Dak is receiving for that game is ridiculous

[Sydla]

I have been far from a Dak apologist as most can attest.

He played very well last night.

 

[nightrain]

The word on Dak was he is nothing without Zeke. Zeke was a non-factor last night and Dak almost pulled off the unintended consequence of the Vikings game plan. Dak wasn't perfect, but he played a hell of a game. Let's not forget the crappy defense and special teams play. Coaching was no help last night.

 

[CapnB]

Hahahahaha this thread is absolutely idiotic

Dallas lost..thus, dak isn't good

OK..so since wins and losses are a qb stat..how about somebody show this guy what daks record is..also show him what daks record is vs winning teams and where that stands vs other qbs in this league

The premise of this thread isn't just stupid...it's ridiculously stupid

The same thing happened to Romo. Ignorance runs deep in some

 

[KMY_Amber]

The fact that we lost to the Jets told me the talent on this team isn't as good as we thought it was. Yes, I understand we had injuries. A GOOD team overcomes that. Our talent is overrated and we can't overcome our tepid coaching staff...

Indeed. The offensive line is overrated, or they'd line up in running formations on 3rd and 2 knowing they can get it. Instead 3rd and 2 is a passing down. What, Zeke and the o-line can't get them TWO YARDS? Pitiful. Zeke is a bit overrated too.

After 3 wins, fans and pundits alike were saying how solid the defense is this year. I tried to point out the level of competition, and the fact that they're still not as intimidating as they need to be. I got blasted, was told to look at the "stats", and wasn't happy with starting 3-0. 6 games and 4 losses later, now others see that this BBDB defense is not a winning formula against good teams, nor in the playoffs, because against better teams, they'll break. And it's just too easy to prepare against the same 3 undisguised defense. Basically, the defense was overrated then, and still is today.

Dak is not overrated, because most don't rate him all that high. He's a "good" QB that still needs to improve in some areas. That's true. And we'll know more and more about Dak as the season progresses, because it's starting to look like Dak will have to carry this team...and will have to make all the throws and make great decisions, winning in spite of the coaching.

The coaching? Well, it's not overrated, because I don't pundits, fans or opposing teams genuinely respects this coaching staff. All they have to do is watch the film and they realize this is a fairly easy team to prepare for. So, the coaching is not overrated, because they haven't done anything consistently enough to be rated high. That in and of itself is an issue, an issue that will be hard for the overrated players to overcome.

MAYBE this team can still win the NFC East (and even that's going to be tough, as the Eagles schedule the rest of the way is easier), but with this coaching staff, it's one and done in the playoffs. No way this coaching staff is outcoaching a playoff opponent.

 

[OmerV]

And is the same problem that this fanbase has when it comes to detail and accuracy.

The Vikings are a team that is doing well this year and we lost to them. Dak had a net positive game.

That the Vikings are 7-3 does not mean that they have a good pass defense. They are middle of the pack in Pass defense with an average rating of 93.5. Conversely, they are 7th in the league in yards allowed the run.

This team hasn't defeated a single team with a pass defense rating under 91.7 (Eagles). That should stand out to us given that of our remaining opponents only the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders have a 91.7 defense QB rating or higher. The Rams, the Bears, the Bills, and the Patriots are going to be more interesting games for Dak.

Just like I wasn't buying the fool's gold that this team was good after beating... checks my notes: The Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins... I'm not buying the fool's gold on Dak, having success against a team that wasn't great against the pass and dared him to pass.

The worst thing about this 5-4 run is that people still aren't paying attention. It's been 9 games. We've only beaten one team with a winning record. And that team barely has a winning record. That should tell you something. We've had an unbelievably easy schedule this year and this team isn't 7-2 or 8-1, it's 5-4. That should tell you something.

You are talking about what the Vikings have done on pass defense this year to show that what Dak did wasn't particularly outstanding considering who they were playing, yet you are ignoring that the Vikings allow an average of 242 yards and 1.8 TDs per game, and Dak passed for 397 yards and 3 TD's. This was the biggest yardage total the Vikings have allowed, and only the second time the Vikings have given up a 300 yard passing game. 4 times they have given up less than 200 yards. Dak's yardage was 200 yards more than Rodgers threw for against them, 120 more than Ryan threw for against them, and 100 yards more than Wentz threw for against them. So while it's true the Vikings aren't an elite pass defense, neither are they a bottom one, and what Dak did against them was far from an expected output.

 

[The Fonz]

Right on with your post Galian Beast get ready for a wave of criticism.

 

[America's Cowboy]

And is the same problem that this fanbase has when it comes to detail and accuracy.

The Vikings are a team that is doing well this year and we lost to them. Dak had a net positive game.

That the Vikings are 7-3 does not mean that they have a good pass defense. They are middle of the pack in Pass defense with an average rating of 93.5. Conversely, they are 7th in the league in yards allowed the run.

This team hasn't defeated a single team with a pass defense rating under 91.7 (Eagles). That should stand out to us given that of our remaining opponents only the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders have a 91.7 defense QB rating or higher. The Rams, the Bears, the Bills, and the Patriots are going to be more interesting games for Dak.

Just like I wasn't buying the fool's gold that this team was good after beating... checks my notes: The Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins... I'm not buying the fool's gold on Dak, having success against a team that wasn't great against the pass and dared him to pass.

The worst thing about this 5-4 run is that people still aren't paying attention. It's been 9 games. We've only beaten one team with a winning record. And that team barely has a winning record. That should tell you something. We've had an unbelievably easy schedule this year and this team isn't 7-2 or 8-1, it's 5-4. That should tell you something.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

You are talking about what the Vikings have done on pass defense this year to show that what Dak did wasn't particularly outstanding considering who they were playing, yet you are ignoring that the Vikings allow an average of 242 yards and 1.8 TDs per game, and Dak passed for 397 yards and 3 TD's. This was the biggest yardage total the Vikings have allowed, and only the second time the Vikings have given up a 300 yard passing game. 4 times they have given up less than 200 yards. Dak's yardage was 200 yards more than Rodgers threw for against them, 120 more than Ryan threw for against them, and 100 yards more than Wentz threw for against them. So while it's true the Vikings aren't an elite pass defense, neither are they a bottom one, and what Dak did against them was far from an expected output.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

This team is overrated. The QB is not.

 

[Galian Beast]

You are talking about what the Vikings have done on pass defense this year to show that what Dak did wasn't particularly outstanding considering who they were playing, yet you are ignoring that the Vikings allow an average of 242 yards and 1.8 TDs per game, and Dak passed for 397 yards and 3 TD's. This was the biggest yardage total the Vikings have allowed, and only the second time the Vikings have given up a 300 yard passing game. 4 times they have given up less than 200 yards. Dak's yardage was 200 yards more than Rodgers threw for against them, 120 more than Ryan threw for against them, and 100 yards more than Wentz threw for against them. So while it's true the Vikings aren't an elite pass defense, neither are they a bottom one, and what Dak did against them was far from an expected output.

Please name the top 3 QBs (not named Prescott) that the Vikings have beaten.

 

[JBS]

Please name the top 3 QBs (not named Prescott) that the Vikings have beaten.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the common denominator in all of this is the single most important aspect of this sport? It's called coaching..have you ever thought about that? This team is at major disadvantage every single week in that department..bc dak cannot overcome that, apparently that means he isn't good..

 

[DFWJC]

The Vikes pass defense is not great, they also were missing guys, and they sold out to stop the run.

But Dak DID play well anyway, overall.

He had three possible picks and then ended up with another that was really a fake pick---those hail Mary's aren't as legit, obviously.

Then again, he had streaks of real brilliance last night.
Glimpses of elite level play that really showed his growth.
It was exciting

 

[KMY_Amber]

This team is overrated. The QB is not.

....only because the QB is the one position that is still not rated very high on the Cowboys. Some still see Dak as a "game manager", even some pundits. So, he's just a "good" QB, not great....which is actually true.

So, yep, whole team is overrated (well, maybe not the WRs, they're pretty good as a group...and maybe not D Law, though he needs to get in shape and stop coming out on 3rd down plays), except Dak.

 

[Galian Beast]

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the common denominator in all of this is the single most important aspect of this sport? It's called coaching..have you ever thought about that? This team is at major disadvantage every single week in that department..bc dak cannot overcome that, apparently that means he isn't good..

You keep having your own discussion here. You're arguing against someone and something that isn't in this thread, I wish you luck with that.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

....only because the QB is the one position that is still not rated very high on the Cowboys. Some still see Dak as a "game manager", even some pundits. So, he's just a "good" QB, not great....which is actually true.

So, yep, whole team is overrated (well, maybe not the WRs, they're pretty good as a group...and maybe not D Law, though he needs to get in shape and stop coming out on 3rd down plays), except Dak.

Dak is top 10. He's not elite but he's as good or better than most in the league. The defense is awful. The running game is hit and miss. The coaching is bottom half of the league.

 

[BHendri5]

Idiot post and anyone that agrees with it.

 

[OmerV]

Please name the top 3 QBs (not named Prescott) that the Vikings have beaten.

So, given the facts presented, the pass defense suddenly isn't the context any more, and it's just who they have beat.

Sorry, but the fact that we lost doesn't somehow mean Dak didn't have an outstanding passing day. Dak's passing wasn't the problem with the team, the running game and defense were.

But if you want to go that route, we can talk about that. Wentz, Stafford and Ryan are the 3 best QBs they have beat, and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best QB's they have faced. Of the QB's they have faced (not named Prescott) only Rodgers is a better QB

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

After 3 years Dak manages to compete in a shoot-out game and is now GOD.
When the score was 14-0 the Minn def dropped a sure pick 6 that would have made the score 21-0.
Dak passed well but once again the only thing this game confirmed that it's Zeke's offense and stop him and win the game.
5-4 and the playoffs now seem like a long shot at best and the Dak employees here are screaming his greatness.
Ya gonna be great to be home for the playoffs this January......

I don't see how we make the playoffs now. Our only shot will be finishing 9-7 or 10-6 and making sure we beat the Eagles a 2nd time. If i look hard and assume we beat the Eagles in Philly then i can find us 4 wins making us 9-7 and giving us the division in a tie with the Eagles. I can not find 5 more wins for us. I can see the Eagles winning 5 of their last 7 (that would include beating us) and finishing 10-6. Even if the Eagles finish 9-7 (but beat us in Philly) they will own the tiebreakers over us.

Eagles remaining games:................................. Cowboys remaing games:
Pats................................................................... Lions
Seahawks...........................................................Patriots
Dolphins.............................................................Bills
Giants.................................................................Bears
Skins...................................................................Rams
Cowboys.............................................................Eagles
Giants.................................................................Skins

Based on schedules the Eagles have the advantage over us. I can't tell you how important this weeks game against the Lions beomes. Hopefully Stafford is still out for it

 

[Galian Beast]

So, given the facts presented, the pass defense suddenly isn't the context any more, and it's just who they have beat.

Sorry, but the fact that we lost doesn't somehow mean Dak didn't have an outstanding passing day. Dak's passing wasn't the problem with the team, the running game and defense were.

But if you want to go that route, we can talk about that. Wentz, Stafford and Ryan are the 3 best QBs they have beat, and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best QB's they have faced. Of the QB's they have faced (not named Prescott) only Rodgers is a better QB

We have a real problem with comprehension here on this board.

The pass defense isn't the issue? It's exactly the issue. They've struggled year long with average quarterbacks. They played Aaron Rodgers who roasted them and didn't throw much and when they played KC, they played Moore not Mahomes and were also roasted. They haven't played anyone else of merit, and yet they still have a middling Defensive Passer rating.

Please quote where I said that that fact that we lost doesn't mean Dak had a good day?

 

[Proof]

So, given the facts presented, the pass defense suddenly isn't the context any more, and it's just who they have beat.

Sorry, but the fact that we lost doesn't somehow mean Dak didn't have an outstanding passing day. Dak's passing wasn't the problem with the team, the running game and defense were.

But if you want to go that route, we can talk about that. Wentz, Stafford and Ryan are the 3 best QBs they have beat, and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best QB's they have faced. Of the QB's they have faced (not named Prescott) only Rodgers is a better QB

good stuff. This guy is a clown