The praise Dak is receiving for that game is ridiculous

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With that being said the defense let us down big-time in that game but the offense also could have started playing in the first quarter instead of the second and of course you're going to have those off days but it's a consistent thing with this Cowboys team they don't want to play a whole 60 Minutes they try to win the game in the second half when they're already behind playing desperate
I would put a sign coming out of the locker room that says a football game is 60 minutes play all 60 and I would pound that into their has until they were sick of hearing that and then I would pound it into their head some more but we all know it's a country club atmosphere so........
 

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Our defense is second only to New England in fourth quarter scoring and we are basically a top five scoring defense. We are even better than the Vikings in that regards. Our defense actually stopped the Vikings defense in the fourth and gave us the ball back with plenty of time to move down the field.

The 14 point lead that gave the Vikings a head start was when our offense was also struggling and we actually went PASD HEAVY on those drives. It was a 9-4, pass-run ratio.

Dak’s big passing plays, going 5 for 5 on THIRD AND LONG, on the second quarter were basically predicated on great pass protection on long, developing pass plays against man coverage on the outside. They were either sideline routes, or by the third, the deep crossing routes by Cobb over the middle. That’s all because of great protection and the Vikings dedicating resources at the line.
I cannot recall if you were this exacting and particular on Romo as you are with Dak.
I'm going to say no, because I think I would remember it.
Do I need to be corrected?
 

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Hahahahaha this thread is absolutely idiotic

Dallas lost..thus, dak isn't good

OK..so since wins and losses are a qb stat..how about somebody show this guy what daks record is..also show him what daks record is vs winning teams and where that stands vs other qbs in this league

The premise of this thread isn't just stupid...it's ridiculously stupid
It’s a sign of the times. Ignorance is bliss. SMH
 

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Homers always think people on their own team are special, superstar material - one example is the hype on Rico,
The fact that we lost to the Jets told me the talent on this team isn't as good as we thought it was. Yes, I understand we had injuries. A GOOD team overcomes that. Our talent is overrated and we can't overcome our tepid coaching staff...
 

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Our defense is second only to New England in fourth quarter scoring and we are basically a top five scoring defense. We are even better than the Vikings in that regards. Our defense actually stopped the Vikings defense in the fourth and gave us the ball back with plenty of time to move down the field.

The 14 point lead that gave the Vikings a head start was when our offense was also struggling and we actually went PASD HEAVY on those drives. It was a 9-4, pass-run ratio.

Dak’s big passing plays, going 5 for 5 on THIRD AND LONG, on the second quarter were basically predicated on great pass protection on long, developing pass plays against man coverage on the outside. They were either sideline routes, or by the third, the deep crossing routes by Cobb over the middle. That’s all because of great protection and the Vikings dedicating resources at the line.


Maybe you have just been a fan of the cowboys so long that you forget what a good defense actually looks like.

you were so used to seeing the HORRIFIC defenses that they had with Romo. Now that they have an average defense, it looks like it’s good.

the reality is,The defense is NOT playing well overall though.
 

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And is the same problem that this fanbase has when it comes to detail and accuracy.

The Vikings are a team that is doing well this year and we lost to them. Dak had a net positive game.

That the Vikings are 7-3 does not mean that they have a good pass defense. They are middle of the pack in Pass defense with an average rating of 93.5. Conversely, they are 7th in the league in yards allowed the run.

This team hasn't defeated a single team with a pass defense rating under 91.7 (Eagles). That should stand out to us given that of our remaining opponents only the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders have a 91.7 defense QB rating or higher. The Rams, the Bears, the Bills, and the Patriots are going to be more interesting games for Dak.

Just like I wasn't buying the fool's gold that this team was good after beating... checks my notes: The Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins... I'm not buying the fool's gold on Dak, having success against a team that wasn't great against the pass and dared him to pass.

The worst thing about this 5-4 run is that people still aren't paying attention. It's been 9 games. We've only beaten one team with a winning record. And that team barely has a winning record. That should tell you something. We've had an unbelievably easy schedule this year and this team isn't 7-2 or 8-1, it's 5-4. That should tell you something.

Ironic, Mahomes, Brady, Rogers, etc. Would be getting praise not only here, but every sports channel. R. E. L. A. X
 

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Please forgive my stupidity but to my credit I explained by reasoning.

Explain where I am wrong - you would rate Prescott over Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Tom Brady...?
No but that’s 3 gummies not five you mentioned. Dak is most definitely top 10 right now and literally every basic and advanced stat shows that.
 

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Ya those games exactly. The same type of games that franchise QB's overcome and find a way to win. Not always but once and awhile, that is what a franchise QB does, except for the ones that need everything around them to be perfect for them to win.

And there has been no better QB in the NFL since Dak came into the league the leading his team to last drive victories.
 

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And there has been no better QB in the NFL since Dak came into the league the leading his team to last drive victories.


Is that so? We are not talking about game winning drives where the team is playing well as a whole, Zeke is having a 100 yard day etc and Dak and the Cowboys have the ball last or late in the game and drive for a FG or TD, we are talking about those game where not everything is perfect and the team needs Dak to step up and put the team on his shoulders and win a game (that is what franchise QB's do, they don't do it all the time but they do it enough). Maybe you should check Dak's record when Zeke doesn't have a good game, i promise you it is not very good
 

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Is that so? We are not talking about game winning drives where the team is playing well as a whole, Zeke is having a 100 yard day etc and Dak and the Cowboys have the ball last or late in the game and drive for a FG or TD, we are talking about those game where not everything is perfect and the team needs Dak to step up and put the team on his shoulders and win a game (that is what franchise QB's do, they don't do it all the time but they do it enough). Maybe you should check Dak's record when Zeke doesn't have a good game, i promise you it is not very good

Who is we? LOL

Putting the team on his back is EXACTLY what Dak did last game.

Do you a really want to bring up wins in your attempt to discredit Dak? Most wins other than Tom Brady since Dak has come into the league.

Any more dumb comments you want me to prove wrong?
 

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Who is we? LOL

Putting the team on his back is EXACTLY what Dak did last game.

Do you a really want to bring up wins in your attempt to discredit Dak? Most wins other than Tom Brady since Dak has come into the league.

Any more dumb comments you want me to prove wrong?

And he came up short. I have already said that his game against the Viking was the best game i have seen him play in a Cowboys uniform, but it still wasn't enough. If Dak wants to be considered the franchise QB that alot around here thinks he is then he has to occasionally win those types of games where things around him (like the running game) are not working. he is not going to win them all (no QB would) but the truly great ones find ways to win some of those games. Dak is not there yet and i don't beleive he will ever get there. And yes go ahead and find me Dak recored when Zeke has a bad game, i know what it is and it is not very good. You haven't proven anything yet, other than you talk alot
 

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And he came up short. I have already said that his game against the Viking was the best game i have seen him play in a Cowboys uniform, but it still wasn't enough. If Dak wants to be considered the franchise QB that alot around here thinks he is then he has to occasionally win those types of games where things around him (like the running game) are not working. he is not going to win them all (no QB would) but the truly great ones find ways to win some of those games. Dak is not there yet and i don't beleive he will ever get there. And yes go ahead and find me Dak recored when Zeke has a bad game, i know what it is and it is not very good. You haven't proven anything yet, other than you talk alot
He’s proven you obviously have a “Hate Dak” agenda for one reason or another.
 

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The two prior first downs Zeke ran for 2 and 3 yards, but Dak converted passes to get the first down. Those are inefficient runs that Dak had to dig the team out of a hole. According to you Zeke doesn't have.

You seem to have a difficult time comprehending there term ‘pass dominant’. And a pass-dominant drive still ended on a STALLED drive. The difference between the TWO is, the Vikings sold out to stop the run.
 

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Maybe you have just been a fan of the cowboys so long that you forget what a good defense actually looks like.

you were so used to seeing the HORRIFIC defenses that they had with Romo. Now that they have an average defense, it looks like it’s good.

the reality is,The defense is NOT playing well overall though.

Facts are, we are a top 5 scoring defense and second in the league in fourth quarter scoring defense. We are a bend don’t break defense, but that’s always been the case with Marinelli.

Our defense is playing better than the majority of the league.
 

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I cannot recall if you were this exacting and particular on Romo as you are with Dak.
I'm going to say no, because I think I would remember it.
Do I need to be corrected?

Most of my exactitude was on the garbage play calling of Garrett and Garrett-homers trying to spin our offensive YARDS production (which is how they used to rank defenses overall) as a sign our offense was actually top 5, meaning I was constantly blasting the offense for years while everybody was pointing to the defense.

Romo was bailing the offense and garbage play calling out then, Dak’s situation is ideal, including Garrett not even touching the offense.
 

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Totes man, the defense was super vs Vikings. Im suprised Dak blew it with such a dominant performance from Zeke and the defense. You win. Lol

So was the Vikings defense super or was that because of Dak? You won.. Lol...
 

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So, Dak did what he was supposed to do under the circumstances. It was a close game and the Cowboys needed a little more from the D or coaching staff. I don't care about stats unless you're talking scoreboard. The Vikes ate more clock and shortened the game with a 150 yards on the ground. The Cowboys were focused on the run too, but couldn't contain the Vikes ball carriers.

Yes he did, until the end when he faced a two safety look. I’m not the one making the content on that Zeke doesn’t impact the game. You are...
 

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I'm saying once the defense is tired in secomd half that Pollard would be able to take advantage.

In situational situations he does, like against the mediocre Giants. But again, he’s a SITUATIONAL back that hasn’t shown any ability to carry multiple times per game.
 

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I'm not saying anything about Prescott, but if Romo didn't convert that 4th and 5 at the end of the game he would've been lambasted
 
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