Demarcus Lawrence Contract Disaster

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He's avoiding most of the team's criticism this year due to all the other major issues, but his contract is looking like a historically bad deal within the 1st year of the deal.

Demarcus Lawrence is the #1 paid DE through the entire length of his contract, 2023. He received the same guaranteed money as Khalil Mack, which is also tied for the most guaranteed money a defensive player has ever received.

Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average / journeyman type defensive end.

He was always a high motor, effort player. Historically, the only DEs who sustained long term success in the NFL are a world class athletes. He's not. This is an issue for the top paid D-lineman on the wrong side of 30.
is 27 the wrong side of 30?
 

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He's avoiding most of the team's criticism this year due to all the other major issues, but his contract is looking like a historically bad deal within the 1st year of the deal.

Demarcus Lawrence is the #1 paid DE through the entire length of his contract, 2023. He received the same guaranteed money as Khalil Mack, which is also tied for the most guaranteed money a defensive player has ever received.

Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average / journeyman type defensive end.

He was always a high motor, effort player. Historically, the only DEs who sustained long term success in the NFL are a world class athletes. He's not. This is an issue for the top paid D-lineman on the wrong side of 30.
He's had to focus way to much in the run game to make up for the disaster opposite of him that gets a sack on 1% of plays and takes himself out of relevance the other 99%!
 

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He's avoiding most of the team's criticism this year due to all the other major issues, but his contract is looking like a historically bad deal within the 1st year of the deal.

Demarcus Lawrence is the #1 paid DE through the entire length of his contract, 2023. He received the same guaranteed money as Khalil Mack, which is also tied for the most guaranteed money a defensive player has ever received.

Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average / journeyman type defensive end.

He was always a high motor, effort player. Historically, the only DEs who sustained long term success in the NFL are a world class athletes. He's not. This is an issue for the top paid D-lineman on the wrong side of 30.

you guys are all about the players when they are making little money but call every big contract bad on this team.

Lawrence deal is basically a 3 yr 65mil deal. he's already accounted for in next yrs cap and dallas still has over 90mil in cap space. in 2021 he makes only 1mil more then then the yr before. In 2022 Dallas can release him and save 14mil on the cap.

Some of you are ridiculously uninformed on these deals and how none of them actually hurt the cap. And its clear some of you have never heard the term fluff yrs.
 

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He's avoiding most of the team's criticism this year due to all the other major issues, but his contract is looking like a historically bad deal within the 1st year of the deal.

Demarcus Lawrence is the #1 paid DE through the entire length of his contract, 2023. He received the same guaranteed money as Khalil Mack, which is also tied for the most guaranteed money a defensive player has ever received.

Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average / journeyman type defensive end.

He was always a high motor, effort player. Historically, the only DEs who sustained long term success in the NFL are a world class athletes. He's not. This is an issue for the top paid D-lineman on the wrong side of 30.

Numbers say that Lawrence is very good. But definitely not elite.

Ignore sacks. He's not ranked in the top 10 for hurries, knock downs, or pressures. He's very good, but paid as elite. Bad contract.

By the way. Same thing in 2018. Didn't crack top 10 then either.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/defense_advanced.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/defense_advanced.htm
 

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Has he made one game winning play? He only has what 4.5 sacks? That's pathetic
 

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Donald has 8,Kmack has 6.5 Vmiller 5.5 Tank 5.0

a lot of dudes who are making bank are all in similar stat situation..

yes a down year for sacks but hes been playing hard and getting pressure, plays the run and has worth..maybe next year he has 15..
 

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DLaw is overpaid as is zeke and jaylon 3 stupid contracts and I’m sure we’ll see a 4 th soon enough

that said DLaw plays the run well and don’t quit on plays he’s our best complete defensive player he cant help it he’s surrounded by a big heap of dung outside of Quinn

I wonder if these players would be better with a different DC or they are just garbage
 

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Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average
o_O

If you spend much time on social media looking around Cowboys’ fan groups or on Twitter, you might see someone say Dlaw isn’t playing well or isn’t worth the $105 million dollar contract he signed in the offseason. (cough cough)

Those people would be wrong. They’re the same people that spent the last two years arguing that Dlaw didn’t deserve to be paid like a top-five edge player in the NFL.

Fans look at Dlaw's sack and tackle for loss totals and come to the conclusion that he’s not playing well. However, if you spend a reasonable amount of time looking at his play or even some metrics that provide context to the first four games of the season, then you come to realize that Dlaw has not only been good, he’s been great.

His impact goes beyond the traditional box score or stat sheet. As much as I like stats and what they can imply, a singular statistic, like sacks, often leaves us without a complete picture of a player’s value, especially on defense. Dlaw is one of the most well rounded edge players in the NFL, make no mistake.

DLaw is overpaid as is zeke and jaylon 3 stupid I wonder if these players would be better with a different DC or they are just garbage
:facepalm:
 

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DE contract doesn’t concern me as much as RB contract
nah same thing both players off a bit on stats but no way its waste..its ridiculous you think Tank 20mil per yr with 5 sacks is ok but Zeke who is top 5 this year and not being used properly a few games and not getting the ball in the passing game as much as he should is concerning..

check the oline and play calling.. neither contract will be concerning because if zeke isnt worth 5mil less then tank something's wrong..also zekes never injured, how many surgeries has tank had..?
 

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DE contract doesn’t concern me as much as RB contract

Collins is looking like the only big contract that's working.

Zeke, Jaylon, Lawrence all underperforming.

The guys we *didn't* sign are playing better. Dak, Cooper, probably Byron.
 

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Pressure has pretty pretty good this year, in my opinion. It’s certainly hasn’t been the reason we lost a game off the top of my head.
 

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He's avoiding most of the team's criticism this year due to all the other major issues, but his contract is looking like a historically bad deal within the 1st year of the deal.

Demarcus Lawrence is the #1 paid DE through the entire length of his contract, 2023. He received the same guaranteed money as Khalil Mack, which is also tied for the most guaranteed money a defensive player has ever received.

Even is he was playing at a pro-bowl level, this would still be considered poor value. However, he's not even playing up to the level of an average / journeyman type defensive end.

He was always a high motor, effort player. Historically, the only DEs who sustained long term success in the NFL are a world class athletes. He's not. This is an issue for the top paid D-lineman on the wrong side of 30.
The contract that concerns me is Jaylen smiths.
I like the guy, but he's regressed this year.
 

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o_O

If you spend much time on social media looking around Cowboys’ fan groups or on Twitter, you might see someone say Dlaw isn’t playing well or isn’t worth the $105 million dollar contract he signed in the offseason. (cough cough)

Those people would be wrong. They’re the same people that spent the last two years arguing that Dlaw didn’t deserve to be paid like a top-five edge player in the NFL.

Fans look at Dlaw's sack and tackle for loss totals and come to the conclusion that he’s not playing well. However, if you spend a reasonable amount of time looking at his play or even some metrics that provide context to the first four games of the season, then you come to realize that Dlaw has not only been good, he’s been great.

His impact goes beyond the traditional box score or stat sheet. As much as I like stats and what they can imply, a singular statistic, like sacks, often leaves us without a complete picture of a player’s value, especially on defense. Dlaw is one of the most well rounded edge players in the NFL, make no mistake.

:facepalm:
I believe he’s our best player just not worth the contract
 

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I wish the rest of the defense played with his intensity.

You won't see the big sack numbers all the time but you do see hustle. The guy goes after you until the whistle is blown.

Other Cowboy defensive linemen are more successful because offenses focus on what he is doing. Quinn wouldn't be as successful without Lawrence on the other side.

Now Jaylon and Zeke
on the other hand seem to be a little too comfortable with their contracts, I think they may have lost that chip on their shoulder.
 

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The op is bs. Yes he hasn't got the 'sack" numbers, but he has gotten pressures and has been great at stopping the run. Now if this was about Zeke, yea he should be cut tomorrow.
 

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1. He isnt playing as poorly as you think.

2. Who exactly do you all think is gonna come in here and replace him. There seems to be some wild misconception that we can just go to the store and pick up a better option. We absolutely had to sign this man.
 
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