Rumor: Lincoln Riley "Very High" on the radar of Jerry and Stephen Jones

Bullflop

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I’m not surprised. It seems they have college coaches more on their radar then nfl. I think rhule is the dark horse.

Successful NFL coaches are wary of getting involved with an owner/GM like Jerry, who has a strong inclination to neuter his head coaches. Jerry much prefers those types who are the most likely to allow him to micromanage the team in ways that would prohibit them from performing their duties. Experienced and successful NFL head coaches know better than to walk into that trap. College would-be head coaches are infinitely more inclined to take the bait. Little do they realize exactly what they're getting into. ;)
 
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Successful NFL coaches are wary of getting involved with an owner/GM like Jerry, who has a strong inclination to neuter his head coaches. Jerry much prefers those who are the most likely to allow him to micromanage the team in ways that prohibit them from performing their duties. Experienced and successful NFL head coaches know better than to walk into that trap. College would-be head coaches are infinitely more inclined to take the bait.
Good good good post.
 

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That's exactly what I mean. We will know whats going to be what with this hire, possibly even beforehand if a coordinator is hired first.

I'm done if he pulls this, and I don't want to be, but I cant keep this up. It's not healthy, and I'm not trying to be funny.
BS. You are not done. You were willing to accept Campo, Gailey, Wade, 9 years of Garrett but its Lincoln Riley would be the straw that breaks your back?
I doubt it. He is considered the most sought after college coach in the nation and this move would be the one that makes you break this addiction?

Come on man. I'm not buying it.
 

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Successful NFL coaches are wary of getting involved with an owner/GM like Jerry, who has a strong inclination to neuter his head coaches. Jerry much prefers those types who are the most likely to allow him to micromanage the team in ways that would prohibit them from performing their duties. Experienced and successful NFL head coaches know better than to walk into that trap. College would-be head coaches are infinitely more inclined to take the bait.
Which successful NFL coaches are you advocating to bring here? I can't think of a single one I want who is available.
 

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Which successful NFL coaches are you advocating to bring here? I can't think of a single one I want who is available.

I wouldn't be so cruel as to advocate any coach, whether professional or college candidates to do so. There isn't a single one who'd be wise to volunteer, whether he's been successful or not. Dallas is where head coaches go to be neutered and sacrificed at Jerry's micro-managing hands. It's inevitable.
 
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Being a very successful college coach requires different skills than being an NFL head coach - recruiting at the top of the list. No real recruiting in the NFL, drafting is the key. If Riley misses on a recruited high school player, he has 89 other guys to make up for it. But miss on an NFL draftee and you've blown about a quarter of your opportunity, since your top 4 players are about as far down as you can go and get a really good shot at having a quality player. The Bradys of the NFL are rare.

Doesn't mean Riley can't do it, after all he sees top college players in action "up close and personal" so he could pick from who he knows the first couple of years, after that he'd be at the mercy of his scouting department.

Much as I loved Jimmy as a head coach, Riley won't get a ton of high draft picks and a ton of free agents like Jimmy did, since he left so early we'll never know if Jimmy could have had the Landry-like or Belichick-like continued success, from his Dolphin days it would indicate he wouldn't, but again, he left Miami so soon we'll never know that, either....
I think you are overestimating the amount of impact an NFL head coach has on who is drafted. These NFL programs are multi-billion dollar organizations and they invest massive financial resources into scouting players. The coach may be a voice in the room but he isnt drafting the players.

I would say motivating the players who are all richer than the coaching staff is the biggest challenge. Finding the right balance and mix of personalities where all players buy in and feel the perfect combo of motivation and fear is the challenge. Also putting players in position to succeed and having them all feel their chances of success are fairly distributed based on performance is big. You can't have a group of players feeling like starting roles are locked down based on names and not production... ex Conor Williams and Jason Witten.
 

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HES STAYING AT OU. This is just fake news.

Money has a way of changing people's minds. Anyway the only thing I read here is that he's high on Jerry's list. It doesn't confirm that the interest is mutual and it might not be. Yet. But Jerry can be very convincing.

There's no salary cap on coaches and Jerry isn't getting any younger.
 

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I’m not surprised. It seems they have college coaches more on their radar then nfl. I think rhule is the dark horse.

If given the choice I’d rather have Rhule than Riley. While Rhule has built and revived programs Riley took over one of the elite college programs and has done well to maintain it but only three years as a head coach with zero NFL experience scares me a little. Rhule is much more experienced.
 

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Against the best team in coege football. Oh no... Must mean he is a bad coach..come back when he loses against their backups like Garrett does..

If you like relying on your offense to score 40 and overcome your lousy defense, he's your guy.

Kansas State slapped 48 on him this season, the most the Cats have scored in a conference game since 2014.
 

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The wild card here is Jerry himself. He's 77 years old, these days that's not that big a deal, though if JJ likes his drink as much as some say, that's probably going to shorten his life span.

Does he want to win? Oh absolutely, no doubt about that, even if he wants to win his way, it's still a desire to win. I don't agree with the view that if he only wants to win his way he really doesn't want to win, those aren't the same thing.

But at 77, he's probably looking at another 8-10 years on this earth, leaving not nearly as much time as he had in 1989 to win a championship or two or three or whatever, though I also think one will be sufficient, since he will have won with one of the "500" other coaches he mentioned back in 1994.

So in that regard, I think there is a real possibility he will hire a stronger willed, more authority-driven head coach, since his time is running short. Of course nobody but JJ knows, I could be wrong. That to me is the only real hope we have for a Meyer or such, if I'm wrong we'll have another 10 years of some other head coach who has to kowtow to Jerry for ultimate decisions, and there will be only 3 chances for another title - slim, fat and no....
 

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The wild card here is Jerry himself. He's 77 years old, these days that's not that big a deal, though if JJ likes his drink as much as some say, that's probably going to shorten his life span.

Does he want to win? Oh absolutely, no doubt about that, even if he wants to win his way, it's still a desire to win. I don't agree with the view that if he only wants to win his way he really doesn't want to win, those aren't the same thing.

But at 77, he's probably looking at another 8-10 years on this earth, leaving not nearly as much time as he had in 1989 to win a championship or two or three or whatever, though I also think one will be sufficient, since he will have won with one of the "500" other coaches he mentioned back in 1994.

So in that regard, I think there is a real possibility he will hire a stronger willed, more authority-driven head coach, since his time is running short. Of course nobody but JJ knows, I could be wrong. That to me is the only real hope we have for a Meyer or such, if I'm wrong we'll have another 10 years of some other head coach who has to kowtow to Jerry for ultimate decisions, and there will be only 3 chances for another title - slim, fat and no....

Or he's going to get someone that won't bump heads with his choice to replace him as GM.
 

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Feeling the constant need to control everything is a mental issue.

Jerry better get this one right.......considering his age this will most likely be his final head coaching hire.
 
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By all means Jerry, keep insisting you get the final say, it’s worked so well the past 20+ years you big freaking bag of doooosh.
 

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Jerry continues to live in the past and to try to replicate "his" success in the 90s. Triplets! Successful college coach! The world and (especially) the NFL have moved on.
 

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Jerry will bully that guy like no other. 36 year old college coach with 3 years experience. Classic Jerry move. Rumors are that Meyer wants too much control. I mean why do that with one of the best college coaches ever and a guy that wins big every stop? Better to hire another yes man that has little experience and no desire to help on the defensive side of the ball.

Nothing will change.

Give me Dan Campbell & Matt Eberflus combo.

Dan HC

Matt DC & Assistant HC
 

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Jerry will bully that guy like no other. 36 year old college coach with 3 years experience. Classic Jerry move. Rumors are that Meyer wants too much control. I mean why do that with one of the best college coaches ever and a guy that wins big every stop? Better to hire another yes man that has little experience and no desire to help on the defensive side of the ball.

Nothing will change.

Agreed.

Rumors are going around that Rural Meyer will take the Washington Commanders job, possibly as hc and GM.
 
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