Rumor: Lincoln Riley "Very High" on the radar of Jerry and Stephen Jones

CPanther95

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Just don’t get the Riley hype. Not even like he built his own program. He was gifted a dream scenario and just had to not screw it up. There are a lot of X’s and O’s guys out there that can design an offense (especially in the Big12), we need a leader of men that can bring a new environment to the locker room. Culture is gigantic factor with this franchise.

Being able to develop a culture is a skillset that will get no use in Dallas.
 

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Really. Small school OC gets a big job at a big school. Offensive gurus. That is Chip Kelly. How are they different?
That describes literally 80 percent coaches in America’s career path. So you think they’re ALL the same regardless of scheme/approach?
 

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Jerry will bully that guy like no other. 36 year old college coach with 3 years experience. Classic Jerry move. Rumors are that Meyer wants too much control. I mean why do that with one of the best college coaches ever and a guy that wins big every stop? Better to hire another yes man that has little experience and no desire to help on the defensive side of the ball.

Nothing will change.

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We need a real HC not Riley
 

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Just don’t get the Riley hype. Not even like he built his own program. He was gifted a dream scenario and just had to not screw it up. There are a lot of X’s and O’s guys out there that can design an offense (especially in the Big12), we need a leader of men that can bring a new environment to the locker room. Culture is gigantic problem with this franchise.
Do you get a subscription to the Athletic? There’s an amazing article there today about his culture in the QB room. No media, outside coach or guest is ever allowed in there.
 

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That describes literally 80 percent coaches in America’s career path. So you think they’re ALL the same regardless of scheme/approach?

Look I like your posts. You are always solid. We will agree to disagree here. I want a proven winner to whip these losers into shape. Meyer is proven.
 

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Not an NFL quarterback.

Draft Tua, or trade everybody and get Joe Burrow.
No QB was an NFL QB until they got into the NFL.
I've seen enough of Jalen Hurts to know if he falls to us in the second round I'd take him .
 

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A guy who's never been a head coach at the college or NFL level took his team to the super bowl last year.
That guy had a coaching staff and a DC to help him even stay in that game.

That's, basically, using an exception as the rule to validate Riley as a SB worthy HC?

I am not taking the angle "he's never done it; therefore, he cannot do it" but I do look at the HC's that got back to the college level as fast as they could. It's not just football at the NFL level.

The undeniable fact is that it is different coaching millionaires on a team of 53 vs 80 and 60 active on game days. The recruiting vs drafting is as much a struggle as well because talent gets better distributed in the NFL, the playing field is more level. I believe it was last year when I was watching an OU game that they mentioned there was only one OK player recruited on the team. That's the type of team he inherited, a NFL wannabe magnet just like Saban, Swinney, Orgeron and Smart built and Day inherited. That's why the balance of power in college is so lopsided and a HC has to catch lightning in a bottle.
 

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Look what he did with three cast-off quarterbacks.

Amazing.

By castoffs do you mean extremely highly recruited and talented qb’s? Let’s not make coaching Murray and Hurts into a burden, that’s ridiculous.

I’m not saying Riley isn’t a good coach. He obviously is. I just don’t see the fit in this time and place for the Cowboys. I want more experience to command that locker room.
 

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No QB was an NFL QB until they got into the NFL.
I've seen enough of Jalen Hurts to know if he falls to us in the second round I'd take him .
Dak is a significantly better passer than Hurts.

I'm an OU guy. I watch him closely. I love that he came here, but he's a running back in the NFL at best.

He'll be there in th 5th round most likely.
 

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I don’t disagree but Meyer could win right away with this team. He sees that. I am hoping for a Jimmy or Bill 3/4 year run. That would be fine to get this clown car back on the path. Plus I would love to see the losers like Zeke, Smith and Lawrence try to pull the crap they get away with now with Meyer.
They're getting away with whatever it is with the owner, not the HC. The HC, whoever it is, isn't the problem.

The dumbest thing posted during the Phillips era was "Camp Cupcake". Did they fail to see the man was denied increasing fines because players were disrespecting his authority and being late?

If anyone thinks Booger is changing anything he does with this team just to get a HC, they're in Lala land. He's not going to retrofit himself to any guy he's paying, He is going to hire the HC that comes as close to his comfort level he enjoys with Garrett and has made that clear. Ever hear any GM of any sports team say his major concern with the next HC is his comfort level?
 

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By castoffs do you mean extremely highly recruited and talented qb’s? Let’s not make coaching Murray and Hurts into a burden, that’s ridiculous.

I’m not saying Riley isn’t a good coach. He obviously is. I just don’t see the fit in this time and place for the Cowboys. I want more experience to command that locker room.
He turned Hurts into a good college passer. Alabama couldn't do that.

Murray won a Heisman and was the first overall pick after being a backup at A&M.

Mayfield was a 5th round talent at best before Riley. He turned him into a Heisman winner and first overall.

If you think Dak can be legit, Riley is your best chance.
 

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Meyer has dominated for about 20 years. 3 titles. Should be 4. Won at BG and Utah. Proven winner. I know all I need to at Riley. Let me see him do it for 5 or 10 years, win a couple titles and actually have a serviceable defense. Then they can hire him.
Once again you realize he is not the DC right smh.. so what happens if meyer feels the pressure and quits on this team too or has to step down..justina question. And I'm not saying he wouldnt be a good coach but I'm not saying Reiley wouldnt be neither
 

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That assumes Riley would accept being controlled, I suspect he's in a great spot where he's at, comfy gig for the most part, and has little real interest in getting into the NFL circus, despite what's been said...
I find it hard to believe as well, any HC that wins at OU is set. The only reason he would want to do that is for ego as there is that separation between the college coaches and NFL coaches. And it is to the point that coaches that want to come up through the coaching tree are better off to start at the NFL level instead of get college on their resume.

And the fact that guys like Kelly, Saban and Spurrier failed and ran back only serves to strengthen that. And there is another that was Riley before there was Riley with the same offensive credential and QB guru tag, Bobby Petrino, and he couldn't last a year in the NFL.

There is a very large difference with coaching in college and the NFL and I am not saying Riley couldn't do it, but he's swimming upstream. If I were going the college route, I would go Rhule or Meyer before Riley. Rhule is that exception because he does have some NFL experience and the job he's done at Baylor is incredible.
 

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Jerry will bully that guy like no other. 36 year old college coach with 3 years experience. Classic Jerry move. Rumors are that Meyer wants too much control. I mean why do that with one of the best college coaches ever and a guy that wins big every stop? Better to hire another yes man that has little experience and no desire to help on the defensive side of the ball.

Nothing will change.

I can see now.

A smoke filled room, JJ says to Lincoln, “Boy, we are going make history. I have a staff already in mind that would be perfect for ya”!

I have assembled some the greatest talent since my 90’s teams. Hell, I called the plays for Jimmy you know? You ever hear about that? Never mind water under bridge my boy.

All you have to do is get Dak right and I will handle the rest.

sign here____________________________
 

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Once again you realize he is not the DC right smh.. so what happens if meyer feels the pressure and quits on this team too or has to step down..justina question. And I'm not saying he wouldnt be a good coach but I'm not saying Reiley wouldnt be neither

Fella I get it. It helps to have a coach that understands how the whole thing works but whatever. If Riley comes in he will suck. I am sure of it.
 

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Fella I get it. It helps to have a coach that understands how the whole thing works but whatever. If Riley comes in he will suck. I am sure of it.
I don't know if he's going to suck but I would be willing to bet once he gets in there and really understands why he is there, he will not be happy. He will have jumped to the NFL for ego and he'll have to swallow that.
 

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What about that OU defense though?

I honestly think once we dump marinelli and let Richard just run the D, they get better by default - or maybe they let the shiny new head coach pick a DC
 

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You have no way of knowing that. Campbell, if he's interviewed by Jerry, may very well say he won't take the job unless he has major control, and when Jerry says he won't have that, he'll pass.

There are 32 NFL teams, a couple of them are up for new head coaches about every year, Campbell can bide his time until a better gig comes along...
So you feel Campbell is in a position to turn down head coaching jobs?

Yeah, no.
 
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