CBS: Dak and projected 2020 franchise tag of $32.5M

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I agree. Franchising isn't smart. You immediately drop a $32 million cap hit vs starting with a cap hit around $10 million and escalating as the cap goes up. How don't see how you can say paying Dak $32 million will wreck the team and then advocate for paying Dak $32 million under the franchise tag.
OK, but the point you're missing is that under the franchise tag, we get one more year to see exactly what Dak is worth. Since he's shown both good and bad at this point, another year is definitely warranted. Hopefully w/ a competent coaching staff who is more likely to maximize his skillset.
 

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This is thing about Dak. If you decide to move away from him, you now have to go into QB search mode and that is a daunting difficult task. We were spoiled with Romo and to a degree Dak but for each one of them there are 10 Quincy Carter's. Anyone remember those days? How about some Chad Hutchinson? That gap between Aikman and Romo was brutal.

So you have to ask yourself can you win with Dak if he has top shelf talent around him? Would a better defense and better play calling on offense or just plain better coaching in general make it work?

He's neither as bad or as good as most folks describe on this board, he's probably square in the middle somewhere.
How about if our receivers didnt lead the league in drops this year . or we had a reliable kicker that didnt leave 30 points on the field . Some semblance of order on special teams .

Any one of the things you and I mentioned would have taken us to the playoffs correct all 5 and thats a trip to NFC championship game .
 

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Take Dak and put him in Cincy then you tell me who's better.
Dak, by miles and miles.

I understand your thoughts on Dak, that's fine, but to think Dalton is in any way the answer?
 
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How about if our receivers didnt lead the league in drops this year . or we had a reliable kicker that didnt leave 30 points on the field . Some semblance of order on special teams .

Any one of the things you and I mentioned would have taken us to the playoffs correct all 5 and thats a trip to NFC championship game .
Maybe the wr don’t lead the league in drops if your football bae doesn’t have the trash accuracy issues he’s had since college
 

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Maybe the wr don’t lead the league in drops if your football bae doesn’t have the trash accuracy issues he’s had since college
And maybe they do as we have all watched it hit them smack in both hands and drop it in our most important game against the Eagles . I can think of 4 in that game alone to different receivers that would have changed the game
 

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Elway was in the league 14 years before he won a super bowl.

Point: Every QB must have the right pieces around him, including good OC's. Maybe Dak has it and maybe he doesn't, but right now this org is a complete clusterfudge. Putting it all on the QB is rather shallow.
Point is Elway made the Super Bowl 3 times in the 1980s. You can't gloss over that.
 

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The point still stands @kskboys the really good ones win early and often. Get there early and win late, get there early and can never get back.

Montana
Marino
Elway
Kelly
Big Ben
Tom Brady
Eli Manning
Favre
Troy


All fall within range. If we're being favorable toward championship game appearances then Matt Ryan in 2012 and Peyton Manning of the early 2000 Colts can be added. Phillip Rivers in 2007.

Even Boomer Easiason and the 1988 Bengals are included.

It's similar with coaches as well.
 

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Point is Elway made the Super Bowl 3 times in the 1980s. You can't gloss over that.
Sorry, that's not the point. Marino went once, Fouts never went; Jurgenson, Moon, Gabriel, Cunningham, Meredith, Krieg. All were top notch QB's who never made it.

The point is that there are many more factors than the QB.
 

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The point still stands @kskboys the really good ones win early and often. Get there early and win late, get there early and can never get back.

Montana
Marino
Elway
Kelly
Big Ben
Tom Brady
Eli Manning
Favre
Troy


All fall within range. If we're being favorable toward championship game appearances then Matt Ryan in 2012 and Peyton Manning of the early 2000 Colts can be added. Phillip Rivers in 2007.

Even Boomer Easiason and the 1988 Bengals are included.

It's similar with coaches as well.
You just shot yourself in the foot. Marino went to one super bowl and lost. Not early and often.

Payton Manning didn't make it until his 9th year in the league.

For some reason, you're making my argument stronger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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And maybe they do as we have all watched it hit them smack in both hands and drop it in our most important game against the Eagles . I can think of 4 in that game alone to different receivers that would have changed the game
Yeah I saw just as many go 3/4 feet above their head but I know y'all don't want y'all's football bae to have any faults. He's Alex Smith Jr. You need to accept it now before you turn on him later
 

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You could literally say that about any other position..

Should we just stop drafting Safeties and give Jeff Heath 15 million a year? I mean, when's the last time this team drafted a good Safety, Darren Woodson? Do you see how dumb that line of thinking is?


Comparisons aren’t your strong suit I see lol
 

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Ask him he if has the same standards for Romo? That will end the conversation.

Unless there's some sort of a movement to bring Romo back and pay him $40 million per year, this is another straw man

Whatever people's thoughts of Romo are doesn't matter at this time

Dak is the guy who is asking for 35 to 40 million dollars per year. His qualifications are the only subject matter pertinent to this discussion
 

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If Dak is such a top tier QB then wouldn't Cinci be willing to trade their #1 overall pick tonus for Dak and our 17th pick?

I mean, if he's as all world as we're hearing from his minions I would think this would be a a no brainer for the Bungles. They're getting unquestionably the top FA quarterback available, and easily one of the best QB in the game ( so we're told). They can sign him to a 5 year mega deal at "market value" and shore up the most important position the field for the next half decade. And they still have a mid first round pick they can use to draft Dak a future scapegoat to blame when everything blows up

Meanwhile we get Joe Burrow.

Hell I'd legitimately throw in our 2nd round pick as well if that's what it would take. With a little seasoning Burrow would be dynamite in our offense and we could have him on a rookie deal and still have tons to spend on defense etc

Pick up the phone Jerry. Cincinnati is just stupid enough to buy the Dak hype.....

who said all world? Or even top 5? What’s wrong with y’all man, is honest discussion too much to ask for?

but no, cinci would much rather draft a stud on a 5 yr rookie wage. Stop being disingenuous (or flat out stupid if it’s not purposeful )
 
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