Bob Sturm Has Been Great To Listen To About McCarthy

BigD5

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Didn't know he posted here. That's cool! Bob Sturm has been my favorite radio host for over 2 decades now. I listened to him when he had the solo evening show on The Ticket. He just got here from Wisconsin. I love his knowledge and passion and he translates very well to writing seeing how much he loves the details.
Would you happen to know if he is on any podcasts?
 

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Didn't know he posted here. That's cool! Bob Sturm has been my favorite radio host for over 2 decades now. I listened to him when he had the solo evening show on The Ticket. He just got here from Wisconsin. I love his knowledge and passion and he translates very well to writing seeing how much he loves the details.

He used to. Too many posters gave him a hard time. Haven't seen him post in a really long time. I think he just decided to move on. Can't blame him, our loss.
 

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I think we’re all assuming McCarthy is pass happy..... but ask yourself when he really had a rb like zeke? He had Aaron Jones for a year or two.... but Jones wasn’t what he is now.

mccarthys best rb may have been Eddie Lacey which is bad.

To be honest i wouldn’t be upset if we took more shots deep. Never understood why we don’t. I watched josh Mcown do it the other day and get two PI calls. It’s called taking risks.
 

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The odds of a coach winning a Super Bowl....then winning another with a new team...are pretty low. Just saying. :rolleyes:
 

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Mike Lombardi was just on in ny on the fan. he said Jerry's way does not work and this wont either. Said McCarthy is a really good coach but essentially jerry's way doesn't work.

he also mentioned matt rhule was never interested in NY at all because they have an institutional problem and do not know how to win. He said Josh McDaniels is best assistant in new England and he had no interest in NY because they wont change what is causing them to lose.

Lombardi is an insufferable know it all.
 

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He used to. Too many posters gave him a hard time. Haven't seen him post in a really long time. I think he just decided to move on. Can't blame him, our loss.

He moved on when the DMN put a ban on people linking to their articles, before he went to the athletic.
 

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Considering Zeke and Pollard are good at catching passes out of the back field, they'll still be a big part of the offense. They may not run as much in a traditional sense but I doubt they will be ignored.
McCarthy is known to adapt. Heck he even try to used a WR as a tailback for the whole season.
 

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He used to. Too many posters gave him a hard time. Haven't seen him post in a really long time. I think he just decided to move on. Can't blame him, our loss.
I don’t recall him getting a hard time

Seems like he quit around the time he couldn’t link to his articles anymore. Which was a really stupid move by his employers IMO
 

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The McGinn article is especially insightful about McCarthy's philosophy of emphasizing turnover differential, which goes a long way toward explaining the Nolan hire. His teams were plus-97 in 204 regular season games. By contrast, Holmgren's teams were plus-7 in 7 seasons, and Sherman's teams were minus-14 in 6 seasons. One Green Bay coach bested McCarthy. Lombardi's teams were plus-115 in 122 regular season games.

McCarthy considers turnover differential vital. Also, according to McGinn, McCarthy thinks the primary job of a head coach is to get the most from the quarterback.

The article isn't all sunshine and roses -- McCarthy is thin-skinned and has a volatile temper, according to the writer -- but it is generally positive and certainly helps to understand Mccarthy's guiding principles.

One other thing -- McCarthy is pretty ruthless.He fired 16 assistant coaches in 13 seasons, including 5 coordinators.

Last thing -- McCarthy is big on dominating divisional opponents. He had a .692 divisional record and apparently emphasizes the need to control those games.
 

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The odds of a coach winning a Super Bowl....then winning another with a new team...are pretty low. Just saying. :rolleyes:

True but Parcells and Holgmren almost did and some guys lost one then won one Like Vermeil.
 

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Don't care what he is fretting over. Doesn't change the fact that we payed out a lot of money for Zeke and I'm not sure how it works out for the better if we don't really use him as the focus.

JMO
Guess we’ll all find out when the season starts.
 

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Unless he plans on turning Elliott into Marshall Faulk II, he will have to run the ball, Booger didn't give Elliott that contract not to be featured.

Since Big Mike has only been the HC on one team, all we have to go on is what he did with Favre and Rodgers, two passers, not QB's, passers. And he never had a RB the equal to Elliott or the same kind of run OL.

Take a look at Don Shula before he got Marino. He had Griese, they had all 3 RB's go over 1K. He helped give birth to the pass with Unitas and still ran the ball more when he had the RB's.

I don't think we know yet what this is going to look like basing it on his GB time. One thing that is not lost on him, those stats I shared with y'all last week. The top 4 passing teams, not in the playoffs. The top 4 rushing teams, all in the playoffs.

The key is getting the ball in the hands of the playmakers and Elliott should have been a bigger playmaker for this team every season he's played. He's averaged 10 rushing TD's a season and that should be no less than 15. He had 2 TD's in 3 playoff games and that should be closer to 5.

There is a difference between running the ball and effectively running the ball. I am looking forward to seeing which Big Mike does.
 

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The Zeke Contract is looking worse and worse to me.


Actually. Zeke should be able to eviscerate defenses in the passing game. Garrett never knew how to use a running back in the passing game. Garrett sucked at designing screen passes.

No reason Zeke shouldn’t be able to be a big part of the passing game with McCarthy as the coach.

The cowboys with their OL and Zeke should be able to be a really good screen game. Now that they actually have a coach, that knows how to implement It.


Now, the question of a contract for a RB will always remain. But McCarthy being the coach doesn’t necessarily mean a less productive Zeke. Just a different type of production. Less carries, but more catches and use in the passing game.
 

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The McGinn article is especially insightful about McCarthy's philosophy of emphasizing turnover differential, which goes a long way toward explaining the Nolan hire. His teams were plus-97 in 204 regular season games. By contrast, Holmgren's teams were plus-7 in 7 seasons, and Sherman's teams were minus-14 in 6 seasons. One Green Bay coach bested McCarthy. Lombardi's teams were plus-115 in 122 regular season games.

McCarthy considers turnover differential vital. Also, according to McGinn, McCarthy thinks the primary job of a head coach is to get the most from the quarterback.

The article isn't all sunshine and roses -- McCarthy is thin-skinned and has a volatile temper, according to the writer -- but it is generally positive and certainly helps to understand Mccarthy's guiding principles.

One other thing -- McCarthy is pretty ruthless.He fired 16 assistant coaches in 13 seasons, including 5 coordinators.
things will be way different for this bunch of players that the head coach has been their buddy
Last thing -- McCarthy is big on dominating divisional opponents. He had a .692 divisional record and apparently emphasizes the need to control those games.
 

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Bob Sturm has been great to listen to these last 2 days about McCarthy. He said he has watched every single snap of both McCarthy and Garrett's career. He said he wrote an extensive article in The Athletic on McCarthy. Starting with his younger years and how he got to Green Bay. I wish I could read it.

In this past segment, he shot down these comparisons of him and Garrett and I had no idea how different they were in their approaches. Here are a few differences and some of the stat rankings may be off a little since its off top of my head.

On 1st and 10, Jason was 1st in the NFL running the ball. McCarthy was 32nd.

On 4th and 4+ in the first 3 quarters (Bob took out the 4th quarter ones due to desperation), Garrett is pretty much dead last in attempts and McCarthy is at the top.

While Garrett has only coached 76% of McCarthy's career, he has less total challenges than McCarthy has challenges won. That's pretty crazy. He said Garrett was way too conservative with challenges and took the approach its better to save them and then a lot of the time, that time never came so they were wasted. 45 total challenges in 10 years seems very low, seeing as you get 2 per game x16 x10.

On 2nd and 10, McCarthy was towards the top of the league in passing the ball. Garrett was towards the bottom.

That is the biggest difference for me. The approach on 1st and 2nd downs. 2nd and 10 was a running down for us. Never failed. And we would always get into 3rd down, many times 3rd and long. McCarthy actually prefers to pass on 2nd and 10. Now lets see if that changes now that he has Zeke and Dak as opposed to Rodgers and no real run game.

Bob said 2 of the biggest reasons McCarthy gets the label as being a Garrett like conservative coach is a few instances. One being the 2014 NFC championship game against Seattle. Where he kicked a FG on 4th and goal from the 1. They scored on 5 possessions before the 4th qtr and only had 19 points. 1 TD and 4FGs. I remember that game and he definitely went the route of Turtle Tom and tried to run the clock more than trying to actively win the game. I thought that was a huge blunder. They should have easily won that game.

And the other instances is he had a tendency to get conservative in playoff games.

But he definitely does not run an antiquated early 90s offense like Garrett.


I dare say, McCarthy in GB and McCarthy in DAL will be decidedly, though maybe not incredibly, different.

Different set of tools. At least for now.

Will Cowboys drafts in the future look increasingly like Packers drafts? Dunno.

Kinda hope not... not really that impressed with anything they've ever done except pass the ball.
 

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Actually. Zeke should be able to eviscerate defenses in the passing game. Garrett never knew how to use a running back in the passing game. Garrett sucked at designing screen passes.

No reason Zeke shouldn’t be able to be a big part of the passing game with McCarthy as the coach.

The cowboys with their OL and Zeke should be able to be a really good screen game. Now that they actually have a coach, that knows how to implement It.


Now, the question of a contract for a RB will always remain. But McCarthy being the coach doesn’t necessarily mean a less productive Zeke. Just a different type of production. Less carries, but more catches and use in the passing game.

None of this is about his contract. He's being paid to be the Best back in the NFL, the rushing leader year in, year out. You can get a pass catching RB who can also give you good yards on 10 to 15 carries for half the price.
 

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And yet it’s not because Ted Thompson never allowed McCarthy the advantage of having a stud RB. Now McCarthy has one. And if he’s studied all offseason the trends and the analytics behind all the good offenses, he has a bag of mixed goodies at his fingertips, RB included with Zeke and now Pollard.

Mike is probably giddy about the possibilities. At least he should be. Doubt he’s fretting over contracts.
for sure wanst Montgomery a WR that truned Rb was their main back most games..they for sure didnt have a Bellcow wh a 3 down player..plus he and pollard both can run routes and I know MM like Screens..
 
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