Dak is not getting the credit he deserves

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Based on the proliferation of Dak is great threads, I guess his people know he isnt getting extended. Last time we had this level of activity was when they realised he wouldnt be extended before the start of last season.
 

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How is 5000+ yards working out for Winston's "credit?"

How many blowout losses do you think Manning had? Guys who are winning in a blow out, tend to throw less, hurting their numbers, not helping.
It us overshadowed by his 30!!! interceptions. And rightfully so.

Definition of trash stats.
 

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When I was a kid watching football in the 1970's and beyond, I do not ever recall anyone ever justifying a QB's worth because of how many yards he put up in a year? Same thing in the 1980's. In fact, the guys who were known for putting up big yardage, never won anything.

I think video games like Madden & fantasy football has ruined football forever. Idiot fans now just look at stats to determine who is better. By their metrics, Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman sucked and Danny White, Tony Romo and now Dak are football gods. (little g on purpose)
Agreed.

But if he throws for under 200 yards in a game i am sure you are right there bashing.
 

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No one outside of Dallas think he's top 5 or top 10. For people to keep comparing Dak to Brees, Rodgers, etc. is an insult to all of them.
I think it’s actually the complete opposite. Dallas fans rate Dak lower than NFL people.
 

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Based on the proliferation of Dak is great threads, I guess his people know he isnt getting extended. Last time we had this level of activity was when they realised he wouldnt be extended before the start of last season.

They're desperate and it shows....
 

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Here me out before clicking reply and calling me "delusional" or "stupid" or any of the other things said to everyone trying to be positive on here.

There have only been 12 different 5000 yard passing seasons, a mark Dak barely missed. He did however put up the 21st highest yard total in league history and only gets hate for it.

He gets a lot of hate around here for "garbage time" stats. I disagree with this notion.

Dak got a lot of garbage time stats, yes. I contend that this is true for every QB, even those 5k seasons. You cant tell me that every one of Manning's record 5477 yards was meaningful. Every year, every QB has garbage time stats and good stats in losing games. It's always true.

But no one discredits Bree's multiple 5k yard campaigns, even though much of it came in the form of blow outs in garbage time, for example.

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb. Garbage time or not, he earned those yards, and thats why he has them. People are just angry that his stats happened in an 8-8 season, as though Dak is to blame for a useless special teams and an underachieving defense. If we had won 10 games, suddenly everyone's perception would be more kind.

Thoughts?
Dak is our Jameis Winston. Both of those guys semi-suck. And neither of them are worth a big payday.
 

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some games he looked top 10, others he looked like the worst starting QB, other he looked average

He looks good when he has 10 seconds to throw and that occurs usually when playing Dog teams like the Giants, Skins, etc.

Dude has more flaws than a Lemon used car from accuracy to footwork-pocket awr.
I mean just watching him play gives you a headache or the urge to grab that bottle of Wild Turkey asap.
Pray that Jerry has stomached his mistake and will use Big Mike to rid this inept cancer from our team!
 

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Dak has always got the credit I think he deserves and that is a TON!

Love his leadership, decision making, legs, just about everything. He is not the reason this team hasn't succeeded.
Romo was even more hated, and I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a big Romo fan. It seemed like his lack of big game
college experience had him playing spooked most of the time in big moments. I've never seen a QB fail at the most inopportune
time in my life. I was so happy when Dak took over and even happier as the years fly by.
 

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From what I see, I see a lot of support for Dak. I also see people that have valid criticisms and want to see more. I also see SOME people who think he can do no wrong. I see some who think he can do no right.

Both of the final two groups are wrong. He's a good QB that has issues that he needs to work on. So do most QB's in the NFL.
 

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He looks good when he has 10 seconds to throw and that occurs usually when playing Dog teams like the Giants, Skins, etc.

Dude has more flaws than a Lemon used car from accuracy to footwork-pocket awr.
I mean just watching him play gives you a headache or the urge to grab that bottle of Wild Turkey asap.
Pray that Jerry has stomached his mistake and will use Big Mike to rid this inept cancer from our team!
Troll
 

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Say it with me... AVERAGE.
Choke on this:
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LOL QBR, the same bogus stat that had Trubisky in the top 3 last year and Dak ranked 17th? I don't remember you pulling that up last year.
Look where he’s at today and who’s ahead and who’s behind. He’s top 5 and he’s going to get paid like it and you’re going to wet your pants over it. Life is good.
 

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Here me out before clicking reply and calling me "delusional" or "stupid" or any of the other things said to everyone trying to be positive on here.

There have only been 12 different 5000 yard passing seasons, a mark Dak barely missed. He did however put up the 21st highest yard total in league history and only gets hate for it.

He gets a lot of hate around here for "garbage time" stats. I disagree with this notion.

Dak got a lot of garbage time stats, yes. I contend that this is true for every QB, even those 5k seasons. You cant tell me that every one of Manning's record 5477 yards was meaningful. Every year, every QB has garbage time stats and good stats in losing games. It's always true.

But no one discredits Bree's multiple 5k yard campaigns, even though much of it came in the form of blow outs in garbage time, for example.

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb. Garbage time or not, he earned those yards, and thats why he has them. People are just angry that his stats happened in an 8-8 season, as though Dak is to blame for a useless special teams and an underachieving defense. If we had won 10 games, suddenly everyone's perception would be more kind.

Thoughts?

I guess the thing is for me, when it comes to stats yards is one of the least valuable. So what would I give him credit for, yards in a league that's designed to facilitate passing yards?
 

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Look where he’s at today and who’s ahead and who’s behind. He’s top 5 and he’s going to get paid like it and you’re going to wet your pants over it. Life is good.

What do you think is he at least 12 years old?
 
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