Dak is not getting the credit he deserves

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Sorry friend,, whats done is done!
If you hadn't have responded my edit time would have lapsed, so there.

I was under the assumption that edits were not allowed after someone responds to a post. I was unaware there was time limit. But hey, it still lives in my quote.
 

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I was under the assumption that edits were not allowed after someone responds to a post. I was unaware there was time limit. But hey, it still lives in my quote.
Learning something new is a great accomplishment brother/sister,, no assumptions or prejudices here... :grin:
 

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Because every dumb reason you Romo-loving morons can come up with to hate Dak for I can apply it to your hero and since you like to be a-holes with anything related to Dak, I like to return the favor! You’re welcome!!

Now, what about those garbage time stats? Want to do some subtraction?

Ah, the classic "they started it" defense

I haven't mentioned Romo in comparison to Dak in eons. You're the one who looks like an anal orifice here

All you've proven is that Dak's merits aren't self sufficient. The only way you can make Dak resemble a competent quarterback is to tear down Romo and try to bring him down to Dak's level

No wonder you are so pissed off and defensive LOL
 

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Ah, the classic "they started it" defense

I haven't mentioned Romo in comparison to Dak in eons. You're the one who looks like an anal orifice here

All you've proven is that Dak's merits aren't self sufficient. The only way you can make Dak resemble a competent quarterback is to tear down Romo and try to bring him down to Dak's level

No wonder you are so pissed off and defensive LOL
At least I admit it. You do the same thing. You admit you don’t like Dak and I think we both know that stemmed from 2016. I just wonder why so many people lie about why they have the biases they do as if they think people actually believe them.
 

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At least I admit it. You do the same thing. You admit you don’t like Dak and I think we both know that stemmed from 2016. I just wonder why so many people lie about why they have the biases they do as if they think people actually believe them.

So, is there a case for Dak in there somewhere?

Care to share it with us?

I'm not going to talk about something that happened 4 years ago because it doesn't help the Cowboys now

Is Dak the Cowboys *only* liability?
No. But he's a bigger liability than many can bring themselves to admit. If his salary goes to $35+ million a year, at that point he becomes a gargantuan liability

That's what I'm interested in discussing. And that's all I'll discuss.

If you're looking to do your normal baloney and stir up a Romo fight you're barking up the wrong tree. Period. End of story
 

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Well you're only considering garbage time as losing games. Garbage time also includes the 80 yard drive in the 4th when you're already up 20. Manning, Brees, Mahomes... theyve all put up lots of stats in their 5k seasons that effectively didnt matter because the game was in hand already.

Id wager that no one has a 5k season where all 5k yards actually mattered.

Also Dak cant get special teams or defense over the hump no matter how well he throws. Two of three phases **** the bed all season long and that's hard to counter.

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sure, whatever

Dak should not even be in the same conversation as Mahomes or Brees etc

Maybe Dak should get good enough that his team is up 20 and then he too can rack up those “garbage time” stats , LOL :facepalm:
 

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So, is there a case for Dak in there somewhere?

Care to share it with us?

I'm not going to talk about something that happened 4 years ago because it doesn't help the Cowboys now

Is Dak the Cowboys *only* liability?
No. But he's a bigger liability than many can bring themselves to admit. If his salary goes to $35+ million a year, at that point he becomes a gargantuan liability

That's what I'm interested in discussing. And that's all I'll discuss.

If you're looking to do your normal baloney and stir up a Romo fight you're barking up the wrong tree. Period. End of story
At $35 million, Dak’s play would deserve criticism. At $4 million over 4 years, it didn’t deserve 90% of the criticism he got. I find it laughable people who hated him from day 1 are now trying to change the narrative to make it seem like Dak’s big pay day is the problem they have with him. Although, I agree it would become a problem, I won’t entertain that reason from people who hated him on his rookie deal. You should just leave his salary out if it and continue bashing every pass that is a few inches off and dropped by the receiver.
 

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At $35 million, Dak’s play would deserve criticism. At $4 million over 4 years, it didn’t deserve 90% of the criticism he got. I find it laughable people who hated him from day 1 are now trying to change the narrative to make it seem like Dak’s big pay day is the problem they have with him. Although, I agree it would become a problem, I won’t entertain that reason from people who hated him on his rookie deal. You should just leave his salary out if it and continue bashing every pass that is a few inches off and dropped by the receiver.

Many (myself included) have consistently said they're not sold on Dak. From day 1

If his salary goes to 20 times what he made this year, that's even a stronger argument for our position. Mentioning it is not only "not hypocritical", it's perfectly logical and consistent

By the way, any Dak defense forthcoming? Or just a progression of condemnation from Romo, to Romo adherents, to Dak critics? Can't wait to see what awaits. :laugh:
 

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Many (myself included) have consistently said they're not sold on Dak. From day 1

If his salary goes to 20 times what he made this year, that's even a stronger argument for our position. Mentioning it is not only "not hypocritical", it's perfectly logical and consistent

By the way, any Dak defense forthcoming? Or just a progression of condemnation from Romo, to Romo adherents, to Dak critics? Can't wait to see what awaits. :laugh:

I'm more positive on Dak than you. This thread wasnt meant to be a Dak-is-best thread, but rather a thread to point out that he earned 4900 yards, some garbage some not, and every QB has some garbage yardage by season's end.

It's just disheartening that Dak almost set a franchise record and only gets hate for it because people dont like the 8-8 record. Dak had a good statistical year and many of the 8 losses are due to two garbage phases of the game: defense and special teams.

Idk what he will get paid or what he is worth. I just know that I think he had a solid year 4. I also know that I place so much blame on JG that I cant really judge Dak fairly. If a driver sucks, it's hard to tell if the racecar has issues or just the driver.
 

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I'm more positive on Dak than you. This thread wasnt meant to be a Dak-is-best thread, but rather a thread to point out that he earned 4900 yards, some garbage some not, and every QB has some garbage yardage by season's end.

It's just disheartening that Dak almost set a franchise record and only gets hate for it because people dont like the 8-8 record. Dak had a good statistical year and many of the 8 losses are due to two garbage phases of the game: defense and special teams.

Idk what he will get paid or what he is worth. I just know that I think he had a solid year 4. I also know that I place so much blame on JG that I cant really judge Dak fairly. If a driver sucks, it's hard to tell if the racecar has issues or just the driver.

Our team is loaded with skill position and O line talent. And he threw a ton of passes this year. He should have thrown for a lot of yards. My biggest beef with him is the fact that he still has trouble consistently making routine passes that a four-year NFL starter should be able to make with no issue. Proper reads timing and location are a consistent issue. After 4 years that's not encouraging
 

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How'd he do against legit teams with actual an actual defence? He is a fraud...through and through.
 

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You know what's troubling dooms? I came across an article yesterday where it lists the top 8 highest paid quarterbacks.

Guess whose on that list? Hint, he's NEVER completed a full season, played in only one postseason game, didn't even complete the first quarter of that postseason game due to injury AND has a Superbowl Championship on his resume?!

Yes, Wentz came in as #5 highest paid quarterback in the league. If this were Dak, I as a fan, would definitely have something to complain about. But fortunately for us fans who know what we have in our quarterback, respect the man that will bring us home a championship. And the chances are even higher with the new coaching staff.

Some of our fanbase are absolutely the epitome of disgrace & embarrassment calling themselves a fan of our Dallas Cowboys.
I hope Dak knocks it out of the park with his up coming contract only to make the haters more jealous and miserable. :laugh:
Wentz is over paid too! But Wentz biggest issue is staying healthy. He beat GB, Bears and Bill's. 3 teams Dallas couldn't handle. He even beat the Cowboys with Walk on WRs. His ceiling is much higher than Daks it's just his health that may prevent that.
 

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Our team is loaded with skill position and O line talent. And he threw a ton of passes this year. He should have thrown for a lot of yards. My biggest beef with him is the fact that he still has trouble consistently making routine passes that a four-year NFL starter should be able to make with no issue. Proper reads timing and location are a consistent issue. After 4 years that's not encouraging

Regarding the amount of attempts, he was #6 in yards per attempt this year. That's respectable.

Jameis Winston was #5 so again it's not like stats tell the whole story but I still have to give credit where it's due, and that means that at the end of the day Dak put up 4.9k in 2019, garbage or not.
 

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Wentz is over paid too! But Wentz biggest issue is staying healthy. He beat GB, Bears and Bill's. 3 teams Dallas couldn't handle. He even beat the Cowboys with Walk on WRs. His ceiling is much higher than Daks it's just his health that may prevent that.
And the Cowboys beat Detroit and Miami, teams Philly couldn’t handle. Don past years there have been teams the Eagles handled that Dallas didn’t, or that Dallas handled that Philly didn’t. This year didn’t somehow become the standard. And, what about head to head? Wentz does not have a good record against the Cowboys.
 

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Here me out before clicking reply and calling me "delusional" or "stupid" or any of the other things said to everyone trying to be positive on here.

There have only been 12 different 5000 yard passing seasons, a mark Dak barely missed. He did however put up the 21st highest yard total in league history and only gets hate for it.

He gets a lot of hate around here for "garbage time" stats. I disagree with this notion.

Dak got a lot of garbage time stats, yes. I contend that this is true for every QB, even those 5k seasons. You cant tell me that every one of Manning's record 5477 yards was meaningful. Every year, every QB has garbage time stats and good stats in losing games. It's always true.

But no one discredits Bree's multiple 5k yard campaigns, even though much of it came in the form of blow outs in garbage time, for example.

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb. Garbage time or not, he earned those yards, and thats why he has them. People are just angry that his stats happened in an 8-8 season, as though Dak is to blame for a useless special teams and an underachieving defense. If we had won 10 games, suddenly everyone's perception would be more kind.

Thoughts?

What about the fact that he shrunk in our biggest moments?
 
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