Dak is not getting the credit he deserves

[PAPPYDOG]

If Dak is under center next year I fully expect mediocre results and everyone else to get the blame. Were gonna be sitting here in this forum next year having the exact same discussions and in two seasons were gonna see Dak cost another head coach his job. McCarthy will be fired!

Yep, nothing changing but the weather!
Jerry Kept Moore to have a scapegoat when Dak STINKS it up again and again and again!!
FG anyone?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

One thing I've noticed people saying a lot about Dak is that the team has to be built around him. I really don't think the pieces around Dak are that great. Patrick Mahomes and all the QBs in the playoffs except Wentz have way more time in the pocket, have much better tight ends and have more consistent wide receivers and run game. Not to mention they don't always start within their own 25. I'd like to see how Dak would do in an offense like KC's I feel like it would be special!

LOL now I've heard it all.....Go watch basketball bud trust me here!!!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Are you guys kidding me??? Dak went 3-7 outside the pathetic NFC East. He was outplayed by Sam Darnold, Bridgewater, & Trubisky & Allen & Cousins. This is with the 11th ranked Defense and an offense that was completely loaded at every position. Multiple times & every time that Dak does not have EVERY weapon than he struggles. If Amari and Zeke & Smith are not ALL 3 playing than Dak struggles..... I would hate to see what happens if all 3 were missing.

How many studs on the O line does one need? 3 were pro bowlers.... and the 4th in Collins was the best this year. Jarwin is a stud. Cobb is a stud. Gallup is a stud..... Even with all this Dak could not move the ball, score points, or wins games until garbage time. Down 31-3 to the Packers. Down 21-3 to the Jets.... Bears.... Bills.... etc. I would love to see his stats in garbage time vs. non garbage time. I forgot about Zeke.... Zeke is a stud. Pollard is a stud.

Better yet give me his stats in non garbage time against decent teams.... not even good teams.... just decent teams.

For all the pretend Dak homers.... You are showing off how dumb you really are. Do you not get that???

Watch the games. Dak has all day to throw without even worrying about guys getting close to him coupled with fact that on any given play there would be at least 2 cowboys running down the field wide open.

At least when Romo went 8-8 he had crappy teams & Defenses..... and played against tougher schedules & tougher rules.

There is about 7-8 teams in the NFL that are trying to lose. Dallas played most of them this year. Giants twice. Commanders twice. Dolphins. Jets. Really really bad football teams & organizations. Dallas had such an easy schedule this year and had NO injuries.

When Dallas goes 7-9 or 8-8 next year who gets the blame than? Because Garrett is now gone.


At Baltimore= Loss
Cardinals= Loss
49ers= Loss
at Rams= Loss
at Eagles= Loss
at Commanders= Loss
at Giants= Loss
at Seahawks= Loss
at Vikings= Loss
Steelers= Win
Eagles= Win
Commanders=Win
Giants= Win
Steelers= Win
Falcons= Win
at Bengals= Win

If you guys want to be as dumb as Jerry & Stephen than go right ahead. But no one yet has explained to me how with the 11th ranked Defense. And a loaded offense Dallas only went 8-8. The head coach does not permeate the results on the field. Obviously the play calling was good. Moore is still here. Dak was not clutch. The team did not win. And quit blaming Maher. None of the games were decided by 3 points or less. Forbath was a perfect 10 for 10 that offset a lot of Maher's missed kicks. And Maher offset a lot of his own mistakes by making kicks that only a handful of kickers in the NFL have ever made.

Yeah, but he almost threw for 5,000 yards

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Are you guys kidding me??? Dak went 3-7 outside the pathetic NFC East. He was outplayed by Sam Darnold, Bridgewater, & Trubisky & Allen & Cousins. This is with the 11th ranked Defense and an offense that was completely loaded at every position. Multiple times & every time that Dak does not have EVERY weapon than he struggles. If Amari and Zeke & Smith are not ALL 3 playing than Dak struggles..... I would hate to see what happens if all 3 were missing.

How many studs on the O line does one need? 3 were pro bowlers.... and the 4th in Collins was the best this year. Jarwin is a stud. Cobb is a stud. Gallup is a stud..... Even with all this Dak could not move the ball, score points, or wins games until garbage time. Down 31-3 to the Packers. Down 21-3 to the Jets.... Bears.... Bills.... etc. I would love to see his stats in garbage time vs. non garbage time. I forgot about Zeke.... Zeke is a stud. Pollard is a stud.

Better yet give me his stats in non garbage time against decent teams.... not even good teams.... just decent teams.

For all the pretend Dak homers.... You are showing off how dumb you really are. Do you not get that???

Watch the games. Dak has all day to throw without even worrying about guys getting close to him coupled with fact that on any given play there would be at least 2 cowboys running down the field wide open.

At least when Romo went 8-8 he had crappy teams & Defenses..... and played against tougher schedules & tougher rules.

There is about 7-8 teams in the NFL that are trying to lose. Dallas played most of them this year. Giants twice. Commanders twice. Dolphins. Jets. Really really bad football teams & organizations. Dallas had such an easy schedule this year and had NO injuries.

When Dallas goes 7-9 or 8-8 next year who gets the blame than? Because Garrett is now gone.


At Baltimore= Loss
Cardinals= Loss
49ers= Loss
at Rams= Loss
at Eagles= Loss
at Commanders= Loss
at Giants= Loss
at Seahawks= Loss
at Vikings= Loss
Steelers= Win
Eagles= Win
Commanders=Win
Giants= Win
Steelers= Win
Falcons= Win
at Bengals= Win

If you guys want to be as dumb as Jerry & Stephen than go right ahead. But no one yet has explained to me how with the 11th ranked Defense. And a loaded offense Dallas only went 8-8. The head coach does not permeate the results on the field. Obviously the play calling was good. Moore is still here. Dak was not clutch. The team did not win. And quit blaming Maher. None of the games were decided by 3 points or less. Forbath was a perfect 10 for 10 that offset a lot of Maher's missed kicks. And Maher offset a lot of his own mistakes by making kicks that only a handful of kickers in the NFL have ever made.

Dak is GREAT! Man please he whips on the Giants and Skins every year what else you want???

 

[IslandCowboy]

LOL now I've heard it all.....Go watch basketball bud trust me here!!!

Dak's receivers dropped a bunch of balls, the o line is a shell of itself, Zeke was very inconsistent, Amari is a 4th stringer on the road, our defense is trash and we had terrible starting field position all year. Not sure any of that can be disputed.

That's a lot for any QB to overcome and the fact he managed to have success still at least statistically is impressive.

 

[Aviano90]

That's what you got out of my post?

You proved your point alright. I'll give you credit for this. You have decided you'd rather bash Romo and anyone who liked him, than talk about the current Cowboys roster and nothing will take you off that blood trail.

Kudos to you for your dedication.

Thanks for sitting on high and dictating to the rest of us what motives are acceptable for deciding if we support a player or not. It's a valuable service you're offering here. You should hold out for a market value contract.

Well, continue being triggered!
Hey, remember when Romo missed a wide open Terrell Owens in the red zone against the Giants in 2007 which should have given us a 21-14 lead? Doubt it but I bet you remember Crayton dropping a 3rd down pass.

 

[DallasEast]

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb.

Defense Attorney: You review threads and posts as a CowboysZone moderator. Is that correct?
DallasEast: That is correct.
Defense Attorney: Do you, as someone with a unique perspective of threads and posts created on the site, believe Dakota Prescott receives zero credit for his statistics?
DallasEast: No. Quite frankly, it is the opposite. Members have expressed a notable amount of credit for Prescott statistical achievements.
Defense Attorney: Do you think some CowboysZone members ignore or exaggerate what is posted by their fellow members?
Prosecutor: Objection your honor! Subjective!
Judge: Sustained.
Defense Attorney: I have no further questions for this witness your honor.
Judge: Very well. The prosecution can call the next witness.
Prosecutor: The prosecution rests your honor. We tried to subpoena @BrAinPaiNt , one of the last witness' fellow staff members, but he was unavailable in the backwoods being sexy.
Judge: Let it be noted in the record. (2 second pause) After carefully deliberation, I find the claim that Dakota Prescott receives zero credit for his statistics on the fansite CowboysZone.com, YOU'RE IN THE ZONE!, as false. Case dismissed.

[Click here for appropriate ending theme music]

I really hate that guy!

 

[Beaker42]

Here me out before clicking reply and calling me "delusional" or "stupid" or any of the other things said to everyone trying to be positive on here.

There have only been 12 different 5000 yard passing seasons, a mark Dak barely missed. He did however put up the 21st highest yard total in league history and only gets hate for it.

He gets a lot of hate around here for "garbage time" stats. I disagree with this notion.

Dak got a lot of garbage time stats, yes. I contend that this is true for every QB, even those 5k seasons. You cant tell me that every one of Manning's record 5477 yards was meaningful. Every year, every QB has garbage time stats and good stats in losing games. It's always true.

But no one discredits Bree's multiple 5k yard campaigns, even though much of it came in the form of blow outs in garbage time, for example.

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb. Garbage time or not, he earned those yards, and thats why he has them. People are just angry that his stats happened in an 8-8 season, as though Dak is to blame for a useless special teams and an underachieving defense. If we had won 10 games, suddenly everyone's perception would be more kind.

Thoughts?

How’s he do in meaningful games? I’ll hang up and listen.

He’s a guy who gets going when the games out of reach, at least this season. Don’t know if it’s him, his offensive players or the play calling. He needs to figure it out on his tag this coming season. NO WAY do I lock him into a long term contract.

 

[BoysForLife]

Well, continue being triggered!
Hey, remember when Romo missed a wide open Terrell Owens in the red zone against the Giants in 2007 which should have given us a 21-14 lead? Doubt it but I bet you remember Crayton dropping a 3rd down pass.

Triggered? Dude honestly I'm enjoying watching you make a horses rear end of yourself while convincing yourself that your proving some point.

 

[America's Cowboy]

So getting a big $ contract from Jerry, the QB whisperer means what, Dak is great?????? This is the kind of nonsense that is posted here that makes one cringe, We all know Jerry doesn't know squat about judging QB Talent and that should scare anyone. The only thing sad about Dak's new contract is being saddled with a average QB thanks to another brilliant Jerry move. The only hope is Jerry signs him to the non exclusive tag and go from there but I do not believe that will happen because Jerry has hyped Dak to no end and just can't admit he was wrong yet again..
Do you Remember? This is the guy you trust to pick a QB, enough said on your football IQ.
“This quarterback Weeden can drive the ball down field. He's a thing of beauty on throwing a football. His passing motion and his arm,
frankly, you won't see a more gifted passer, power, accuracy, the entire aspect of it “

“If we had picked Manziel, he'd guarantee our relevance for 10 years.”

.Jones said he was still stewing about not snagging Lynch. "I was still mad about it," Jones said. "Actually thought we had it done."
Dallas also attempted to trade up to get Connor Cook

Cowboys flipped a third-round pick in 2005 for Henson to play quarterback for the team in 2004. He played a grand total of one game

On Dak- "I really do. I think he's more like [Tom] Brady."

Jerry is right about Dak. The whole administration agrees about Dak. The previous coaching staff agreed on Dak, and so does this new one. So does Bill Belichick and most other NFL coaches. You little groupies are the ones who are wrong and too stubborn to admit it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I never said anything about his ranking. I just said he deserves credit for his accomplishment that we all witnessed. The hapless Jameis Winston is well outside any top 10 list but he too deserves credit for his 5109 yard season in 2019, good for 8th all time.

But this assumes the criteria each posters works off of is uniformed. It's not.

As example, an employee of a Company, lets say a sales person, sells a thousand widgets, 150 more then the next guy. That's a good year according to his manager but the owner looks at this and says, "the widgets are only worth $200.00 a piece, retail, at a 20% profit margin. So the sales person A, lets call it, basically sold $200,000.00 at Gross Profit of 40K for the year. Now, Sales people make, lets say, 20% on everything they sell. So the company actually makes 32K profit, before taxes and the Sales guy gets a base of, lets say 30K plus commission. By the time you factor in all of the taxes, the benefits costs, costs of facilities, costs for support staff etc., the company is at a net loss.

This is kinda how some fans view stats, with regards to team objectives. Doesn't matter how well you did if the end result is a failure of the overall goal. Now I'm not saying that this is how every fan should look at Dak's season but I am saying that I do kinda look at it in this light and not just for Dak, but for the entire team. Is it right? I don't know but I do know this, you can't tell me it's wrong either. That's how some look at this and it's hard for me to tell them they are wrong.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak's receivers dropped a bunch of balls, the o line is a shell of itself, Zeke was very inconsistent, Amari is a 4th stringer on the road, our defense is trash and we had terrible starting field position all year. Not sure any of that can be disputed.

That's a lot for any QB to overcome and the fact he managed to have success still at least statistically is impressive.

What else can we get for Dak for him to excel?

 

[Aviano90]

Triggered? Dude honestly I'm enjoying watching you make a horses rear end of yourself while convincing yourself that your proving some point.

sure you are. The problem you have with me is that I am not that Romo hater who talks about golf, Jessica Simpson, Cabo, backwards hats, etc. I can actually point out how Romo had an accuracy issue which cost us big time in a game where people only want to blame Crayton for a loss. He was as accurate as Dak there. That’s got to sting.

 

[BoysForLife]

Yeah, but he almost threw for 5,000 yards

Jameis Winston threw for over 5,000 yards on a significantly worse team. But all I know is that we're supposed to think jameis Winston stinks

I'm just waiting for one of Dak's minions to tell me how I'm allowed to feel here. I desperately want to be part of the in crowd.....

 

[BoysForLife]

sure you are. The problem you have with me is that I am not that Romo hater who talks about golf, Jessica Simpson, Cabo, backwards hats, etc. I can actually point out how Romo had an accuracy issue which cost us big time in a game where people only want to blame Crayton for a loss. He was as accurate as Dak there. That’s got to sting.

Nope. It doesn't.

I am, however, enjoying listening to Tony in the booth. Always liked that guy. Seems to overachieve at everything he does

Hey, just curious, what do you think is Dak's best strength? What's something (other than some generic reference to "intangibles") that he does at an exceedingly high level?

 

[Aviano90]

Nope. It doesn't.

I am, however, enjoying listening to Tony in the booth. Always liked that guy. Seems to overachieve at everything he does

I used to love him. People like you ruined him for me.

 

[BoysForLife]

I used to love him. People like you ruined him for me.

So, a guy angrily alleging that people "hate" Dak for reasons that have "nothing to do with Dak", pridefully declares that his disdain for Romo has nothing to do with Romo

I see we've come full circle back to the classic "he started it" defense

 

[shabazz]

3 field goals and no TD’s in the single most important game of the seasons against the pathetic Eagles.

Cry us a river

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's interesting how people quantify success. I mean, 4900 plus yards is success in some peoples eyes. Yet we were 8-8.

Winston 5109 yds, 7-9
Dak 4902, 8-8
Goff 4638, 9-7
Rivers 4615, 5-11
Ryan 4466, 7-8

It's interesting that all of the top passers in the NFL, yards wise, had poor seasons, team wise. I quantify poor as not making the playoffs. I think the NFL might be changing again and moving back to where it always should have been, IMO, which is balance on Offense. At least I hope this is what this means.

 

[nightrain]

No credit here. Money players only.