Would you take Teddy at under 25 million Or Tak Dak for over 35 million?

Would you take Teddy at under 25 million Or Tak Dak for over 35 million

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zack

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Does Teddy Bridgewater throw the ball past 15 yards? Just curious?
 

America's Cowboy

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Disrespect? Is this Facebook social media? I love me some Likes?
Some fans in here actually have proven that they have a good call, when it comes evaluating talent from the couch, the eye test.
Can you pass the eye test...
Its not about disrespect, that's what high school teachers preach what not to do on a daily format these days,, this about rather or not you are good enough to play and succeed at this level.
You either got what it takes or you don't, this is not complicated, and for those with a good eye, they never even look at stats, its clear vision...lol
Clear vision? So you've got a better eye than the NFL coaches? So Dak doesn't have what it takes to play at this pro level? What have you been watching the past 4 years? Even high school coaches would laugh at your comment. Armchair wannabe coach who knows more than high school, college and pro coaches. LOL. Smh
 

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Please note many of my comments are derive from what 'I think' Jerry Jones (in particular) and perhaps his DNA kid will do. Projecting what will likely happen, based on how Jones has generally acted previously, is my preferred way of addressing subject matter like this thread centers upon.

On lesser occasions, I will comment based solely on what I think is correct or incorrect despite what I believe the Jones would or would not do. Case in point, I was 100% in support of immediately re-inserting Romo back as a starter after being medically cleared in the 2016 season. My opinion was in direct opposition of not only what Jerry Jones thought but also those who shared his decision among fans and media alike.

Just pointing out how I mostly respond to posts. :) That said, I also admit Jones' mind is like a bad cats and I could sometimes be reading him COMPLETELY wrong. :p
I believe the gambler in Jones will ride with any mid-round, low-round, undrafted free agent, and/or acquired via trade veteran quarterback. Jones has generally followed this pattern with his other franchise quarterbacks in Aikman and Romo. It should be noted Jones also did so even with Romo's injury history. The injured shoulder question mark is a good point but I am virtually certain Jones will continue his backup quarterback strategy with Prescott too.
"Good quarterback?" I agree completely. Even Jones has or will try and acquire any backup quarterbacks he believes has a capable skillset who would fill in if-and-when his franchise quarterback got sidelined.

However, if 'good quarterback' equates as 'potentially very good to great quarterback', I disagree. Point of emphasis. It is highly likely the thought never crossed his mind he would replace Romo with Prescott temporarily or permanently before and at the time he drafted Prescott. I do believe Jones' initial thought of Prescott not only being a solid backup but also as a replacement for Romo occurred after Prescott began demonstrating his potential during meaningful (e.g. regular) season games.

I should add that I have not adjusted my thinking based on the new source of player evaluation input that will now come from Mike McCarty and how Jones may be motivated by it. My opinion of how Jones may begin looking at a backup or potential franchise quarterback may change after watching their duo dynamic interacts in the future.
My opinion? I severely doubt it. I have stated for years I saw Prescott cementing Jones 100% backing as early as the second month of his rookie season. And that nothing has changed for Jones since that moment. Perhaps Prescott and Jones will not settle on a contract averaging on a $40 million per year salary but it shall not surprise me one iota if a final contract challenges that figure OR even exceed it. Jones will gamble with how the rest of his salary cap is divided up after the fact.

Jones will end up paying Prescott substantial franchise level quarterback money. Economics dictates it will happen. The supply of what Jones grades as franchise quarterbacks is tiny. HIs demand is high. Equivalent compensation will follow suit in meeting Jones' demand.

Just my two cents.

You're speaking as if Jones is one person. Jones is realistically two people, not one. Their DNA is factual but I'm sure but what they don't necessarily agree on everything. There's Jerry and then there's Stephen. Jerry Jones will pay whatever it takes to retain Dak. Stephen Jones really isn't quite as likely to follow that pattern. Hence, It's why the FO is actually considering franchising him. I'm reasonably sure they will both get together and decide which route to take in terms of signing him, I certainly don't doubt that they both want him to stay with the Cowboys in the now and beyond. That's fair to say. They are sure to get together in the final decision as to what to offer as a settlement.

I think MM is attempting to fit in with his approval of what Dak means to this team's pride in selecting him in the fourth round and the nice value involved in that decision. If Stephen really felt Dak was worth $40 mil, he'd likely have been given a contract for that amount by now. Perhaps he'll be signed for 35 to 37 mil or something on that order -- it's quite difficult to predict exactly what to expect as a settling point. Dak's not going anywhere, that's more than likely a given. Here's hoping all parties see fit to settle for a workable deal when all's said and done. I do respect your opinions and hope for the best to come for the team and their long term future. Here's hoping we're all reasonably pleased with the results.
 
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Dak finished 4th overall in total QBR (70.1) out of all QBs in the 2019 NFL Season.

Bridgewater didn't even make it on the 1st page, and that's because the Top 30 QBR rated QBs are listed on it with the highest score being at 81.8 (Jackson) and the lowest being at 34.3 (Rudolph). Wow!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seasontype/2

Smh

I would take Dak in a heartbeat over Teddy. That said, he is not on that page because he didn't qualify to be on it, not because of his QBR (though it wasn't much higher than Rudolph).

From the page: Season Leaders: To qualify, a player must play a minimum of 20 action plays per team game. AKA a minimum of
 

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The way I look at is like sign teddy and Quinn or Teddy and Byron or sign Dak. Cause that's what it is.
 

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I find it amusing that some here consider Dak and Teddy as "essentially the same QB" but for some reason they believe you can get the "same QB" in the NFL at a much different rate.

Looking at sportrac, they estimate the value of players based off their actual production.

Teddy is "worth" $20 million a year:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/teddy-bridgewater-14441/market-value/

Dak is "worth" $33 million a year:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/market-value/

So giving Teddy $25 million a year, or 120% above his market value, that would be like paying Dak $41+ million a year.

I am not going to OVERPAY for LESS.

That just simple math.

I'd be all for giving Bridgewater 5 million more. It would still be cheaper than paying Dak more than he's worth.
 

PAPPYDOG

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Pappy would take Teddy for $25 million per year rather than Dak on his rookie contract.

So far 40% would prefer Teddy.
Now that sends the message that a large % of our fan base has doubts that Dak is truly the franchise QB for us now and in the future.
Now munch on that when throwing your childish insults my way again.
Dak will fail us not because he wants to but his talent base is sub-par to accomplish what the Job requires and demands.

P.S. Try and be Cowboy fans first and foremost then Dak-Groupies.
 

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So far 40% would prefer Teddy.
Now that sends the message that a large % of our fan base has doubts that Dak is truly the franchise QB for us now and in the future.
Now munch on that when throwing your childish insults my way again.
Dak will fail us not because he wants to but his talent base is sub-par to accomplish what the Job requires and demands.

P.S. Try and be Cowboy fans first and foremost then Dak-Groupies.
:lmao::thumbup::lmao2:

But what does 60% mean?

QB Whisper Electoral College?
 

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Pssstt....it doesn't matter how big 40% gets, it will never be bigger than 60% :huh::lmao2:

I don’t think you understand. Pappy is basically saying the people that believe we shouldn’t pay Dak a ridiculous amount of money/believe we should move on is not as small as everyone says. A lot of people like to say we’re a “minority” when it’s a 6-4 ratio of Dak lovers to People not fond of the idea paying Dak a ridiculous amount of money. That’s not too big of a gap.
 

PAPPYDOG

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I don’t think you understand. Pappy is basically saying the people that believe we shouldn’t pay Dak a ridiculous amount of money/believe we should move on is not as small as everyone says. A lot of people like to say we’re a “minority” when it’s a 6-4 ratio of Dak lovers to People not fond of the idea paying Dak a ridiculous amount of money. That’s not too big of a gap.

It's big when 40% of your fans here don't believe you are worthy the big payday.
They don't believe it as they have serious doubts about his talent levels which are not Elite NFL QB status!
 

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Teddy can be a great QB I think. He never gets a chance to actually play enough to get in a great groove. The problem I have with Teddy is that I don't know if you could every trust that leg for a long term deal.
I mean the fact that he plays now, and plays well... especially when Brees was out is somewhat of a miracle heh. I just don't know if I would ever have the guts to sign him. He may be 100% and his leg stronger
that it ever was. However, I think he faces that bias on his leg a lot.
 

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Teddy can be a great QB I think. He never gets a chance to actually play enough to get in a great groove. The problem I have with Teddy is that I don't know if you could every trust that leg for a long term deal.
I mean the fact that he plays now, and plays well... especially when Brees was out is somewhat of a miracle heh. I just don't know if I would ever have the guts to sign him. He may be 100% and his leg stringer
that it ever was. However, I think he faces that bias on his leg a lot.

Neither one is deserving of leading the Star.
Between the 2 give me Teddy in a Texas Heartbeat!
 

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Neither one is deserving of leading the Star.
Between the 2 give me Teddy in a Texas Heartbeat!

Yeah my complaint all the time is being the most valuable franchise, and we can't find our own Mahomes. That drives me friggin nuts.
 

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So far 40% would prefer Teddy.
Now that sends the message that a large % of our fan base has doubts that Dak is truly the franchise QB for us now and in the future.
Now munch on that when throwing your childish insults my way again.
Dak will fail us not because he wants to but his talent base is sub-par to accomplish what the Job requires and demands.

P.S. Try and be Cowboy fans first and foremost then Dak-Groupies.
Dak could lay us $40 million per year and you would still troll Dak.

P.S. You of all people should not tell anyone about being a fan. You are not a fan. You are simply a Dak troll. You’re not even a hater. You are a troll dating back to your 2016 weekly guarantees that Dak would no longer be the starter. You are dedicated though. 4 years later and you are still singing the same tune. Won’t discuss other Cowboys related issues but waking up everyday to troll Dak is priority #1 in your sad, miserable existence.
 

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I'd be all for giving Bridgewater 5 million more. It would still be cheaper than paying Dak more than he's worth.
$25 million for a guy who has....

Never thrown for 15 TDs in a season
Never thrown for 3,250 yards in a season
Whose career TD% is lower than Dak (3.6 vs 4.7)
Whose career INT% is higher than Dak (2.3 vs 1.7)

And you think it's fine to OVERPAY for that type of production that doesn't even come close to the guy he would replace?

So with the ADDITIONAL help we would need to make up for Teddy's shortcomings, which is more than Dak's, is $10 million enough to bring in the required pieces?

If you said yes to either one of those, then I'm thankful Jerry is the GM.
 
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