Are we really going to dump everything into Dak?

[THEHEREAFTER]

Ask yourselves. Why is he even in the DISCUSSION to get a pay day? How does his QBR, stats, passer rating, win % stack up last year and since drafted? How does he stack against his peers? ie Carson Wince in every statistical measure? So you have to pay a guy at or close to the going rate for his position? He's out performed his contract? So the OP suggests to let him walk, start all over and then what? Hope that whomever we go with outperforms his contract like Dak did? Then what? So we didn't win a SB on Dak's rookie deal? Is this all on Dak's shoulders? Is that the conclusion? Ask yourselves why did we fire an entire coaching staff?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Stop it. We had Jason Garrett on the sidelines.

Don’t feed the idiots. Lol

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I ve been a fan of this team for 50+ years.

Ever since FA appeared, we have tried to beat the system and try to circumvent the rules.

Now the system has boxed us into a corner.

The team has tried Dak as the Franchise QB and just can't get it done.

Multi-million dollar OL..

Multi-million dollar RB..

soon to be multi-million dollar WR..

soon to be multi-million dollar QB

No titles on the wall..

HC and staff just fired.

Sorry.

Paying Dak at this point will destroy this team for the next 5 years or however long Dak is signed for.

The Jones made a huge decision to finally end the Garrett Experiment in favor of a real football coach.

They righted the ship. But now they are about to mortgage all the future on Dak?

Beyond belief to me.

We have worked for decades to fix our cap, draft wisely, hire capable executives like Will Clay to steer the course..

and we are going to sink everything into a 4th rd draft pick who has come up short like Dak has?

Impossible to believe but it's about to happen.

Whoda think it?

Don't want to beat this into the ground but this team is really in a pickle.

Pass the ketchup and chili.

I need something to disguise this hotdog as I am being asked to eat this thing as a fan.

I know there are tons of threads screaming about alternative paths for this.

As I look at teams who have paid their QBs the big contract, I see them on the sidelines and not playing for a SB.

The Vikes, Packers, Commanders, Pat's, Chargers, Carolina and several others nailed to cap numbers that are designed to stop their ambitions.

Only the 9ers with Jimmy G is paid and playing for a title. But look closely.

He did not have a great season. He completed like 6 passes in each half of the NFC Championship.

I think if that is what it takes..

then keep your money Jerrah.

Let Dak walk and find another QB. I could care less if Dak has the team over a barrel or visa versa.

If Dallas pulls the contract off the table..we are free of all this. Dak can hope some other team to spend the huge salaries required to support his average skill sets.

They won't. Plus pay him $35 mil/yr?

Not going to happen.

I would prefer letting McCarthy go find a QB he wants and play ball.

Draft a defense and another QB or sign a FA QB and in a couple of years before all the offensive guys we have signed start retiring. .

we will have a real shot.

For once I want to see a coordinated push with management, coaching and players and fans united in a clear goal we all agree can work.

Too much to ask?

Comments.

I hear you,,, seems like the prudent move would be to give Dak a short contract and see if the new WCO style can turn him into a winner. That way Dak is covered financially and the team can take a few more years to make up their mind... Meanwhile start stocking up the defensive talent,,,

 

[CowboyRoy]

The answer to the question is who can you sign that is better than Dak for next season?

I do think Dallas should always be looking for new talent but that is not Jerry's mo...

Dak is the best that you can sign for next season & Jerry will sign him, and their will be no talented QB in the bullpen ready to play in the event Dak is hurt.

Doesn’t matter. The trolls have complained for 4 years when dak was making 500k per year.

let the cry babies cry.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I hear you,,, seems like the prudent move would be to give Dak a short contract and see if the new WCO style can turn him into a winner. That way Dak is covered financially and the team can take a few more years to make up their mind... Meanwhile start stocking up the defensive talent,,,

team has made up their mind already. Maybe they haven’t made that clear enough for you?

 

[Nav22]

Average doesn't win super bowls neither does 8-8 or 9 points in a must win game and Dak choked yet again, but we get it that Darn bad D. Get real, the jokes and laughs are on you.

Your lack of understanding for the game of football is comical, especially in a football fans’ forum.

 

[bandfan]

I think you offer Dak 30M/yr with some out clauses, and go. If he takes it draft low a new trainee. If he doesn't then tag him and draft higher the guy with the most upside. You aren't destroying the cap by offering QB 30, #1 WR 15, and #1 CB 10........now whether they will take it is another story. Dak is the only one I would say tag if he doesn't take it this year, and that is only to allow your new HC/QB coach to find the guy he wants there, if Dak is unreasonable with pay.

With this said, it always works this way. Dallas knew with Romo they had to upgrade the line, so they did, and paid handsomely. That made the QB and RB look good, so they wanted paid handsomely as well. LOL, just a vicious cycle. Would the RB, QB or WR look anywhere near this good if they didn't have a very good line......NOPE, but they want to play hardball for more $$$$$. None of them would look good behind say Cincinnati's line.

I believe that basically you just said the best sound financial advice for football teams is to have crap offensive lines so the offenses will underperform and then you don't have to pay good players.....wow, never thought of that....lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

Average doesn't win super bowls neither does 8-8 or 9 points in a must win game and Dak choked yet again, but we get it that Darn bad D. Get real, the jokes and laughs are on you.

Lol.....actually you are the joke and the joke is on you. As dak will be our qb for the next 5-7 years.

FYI......dak led the nfl in passing.

another laughable comment debunked.

 

[Nav22]

not all of that but he will have to pick up the slack and elevate everyone around him a whole lot more when he is making $35m+ a season and won’t be able to rely on everything and everyone being “dak friendly” anymore with the salary cap.

Or the team could, you know, have a decent defense and special teams.

ESPN Cowboys efficiency rankings...

Offense: 3rd
Defense: 18th
Special Teams: 30th

 

[Brax]

Stop it. We had Jason Garrett on the sidelines.

great overcomes, you stop it.

 

[blueblood70]

hes worth 50 , 35 is steal..

Mahomes deserves every penny..

oh we talkin dak..sorry..

 

[Redball Express]

Ask yourselves. Why is he even in the DISCUSSION to get a pay day? How does his QBR, stats, passer rating, win % stack up last year and since drafted? How does he stack against his peers? ie Carson Wince in every statistical measure? So you have to pay a guy at or close to the going rate for his position? He's out performed his contract? So the OP suggests to let him walk, start all over and then what? Hope that whomever we go with outperforms his contract like Dak did? Then what? So we didn't win a SB on Dak's rookie deal? Is this all on Dak's shoulders? Is that the conclusion? Ask yourselves why did we fire an entire coaching staff?

No..

I think I am asking to rather than move all our chips to Dak's pile and hope..

I think it's too early to do that after what we have seen.

Now if we had had all this talent since 2016 and Dak was a top pick..

and we had only won 2 playoff games and 2 division titles against teams in our division but did nothing more..

would we reup with him and make him the highest paid QB in the NFL..?

Probably not. The fact he was a relative bargain so far does not mean if we do not pay him for his past performance we are ungrateful.

As a whole, grateful applies but paying for future success is what this is supposed to be about.

I would not feel obligated to that thinking and Dak should be happy he came to Dallas where everything was aligned for him like Dallas was.

This team would be better served rebuilding right now, depend on the new coaches and new players making us winners again..

then target exactly what is needed if anything is.

We do not stretch every available asset to try to do it now..with so much unknown.

That is what I believe.

 

[Brax]

Lol.....actually you are the joke and the joke is on you. As dak will be our qb for the next 5-7 years.

FYI......dak led the nfl in passing.

another laughable comment debunked.

Dak may be here 6-7 years but asterisk passing yards and disappearing in big games and against quality teams like the Jets that's laughable. Mr Dak Stats against the scrubs, oh forgot 9 points against the scrubs in the biggest game of the year, that's old Mr clutch Stat Dak, you sir are a joke. You support a Jerry endorsed QB, talk about the kiss of death. Not sure why thinking Dak is average to good causes so much anxiety for folks like you. Hope you enjoy the mediocrity you enjoy and relish because it's been here for 4 years and will most likely be here for 4 or more.

 

[Cmac]

Dak's up for 2020 Fall Guy Nominee......way to go. It's about time.

 

[glimmerman]

Need a cap guru to make it all work. Cut a few like Crawford and draft very well. Smaller window if we sign Dak and Cooper. Let’s hope after the new CBA the cap goes way up.

 

[landryscorner]

I ve been a fan of this team for 50+ years.

Ever since FA appeared, we have tried to beat the system and try to circumvent the rules.

Now the system has boxed us into a corner.

The team has tried Dak as the Franchise QB and just can't get it done.

Multi-million dollar OL..

Multi-million dollar RB..

soon to be multi-million dollar WR..

soon to be multi-million dollar QB

No titles on the wall..

HC and staff just fired.

Sorry.

Paying Dak at this point will destroy this team for the next 5 years or however long Dak is signed for.

The Jones made a huge decision to finally end the Garrett Experiment in favor of a real football coach.

They righted the ship. But now they are about to mortgage all the future on Dak?

Beyond belief to me.

We have worked for decades to fix our cap, draft wisely, hire capable executives like Will Clay to steer the course..

and we are going to sink everything into a 4th rd draft pick who has come up short like Dak has?

Impossible to believe but it's about to happen.

Whoda think it?

Don't want to beat this into the ground but this team is really in a pickle.

Pass the ketchup and chili.

I need something to disguise this hotdog as I am being asked to eat this thing as a fan.

I know there are tons of threads screaming about alternative paths for this.

As I look at teams who have paid their QBs the big contract, I see them on the sidelines and not playing for a SB.

The Vikes, Packers, Commanders, Pat's, Chargers, Carolina and several others nailed to cap numbers that are designed to stop their ambitions.

Only the 9ers with Jimmy G is paid and playing for a title. But look closely.

He did not have a great season. He completed like 6 passes in each half of the NFC Championship.

I think if that is what it takes..

then keep your money Jerrah.

Let Dak walk and find another QB. I could care less if Dak has the team over a barrel or visa versa.

If Dallas pulls the contract off the table..we are free of all this. Dak can hope some other team to spend the huge salaries required to support his average skill sets.

They won't. Plus pay him $35 mil/yr?

Not going to happen.

I would prefer letting McCarthy go find a QB he wants and play ball.

Draft a defense and another QB or sign a FA QB and in a couple of years before all the offensive guys we have signed start retiring. .

we will have a real shot.

For once I want to see a coordinated push with management, coaching and players and fans united in a clear goal we all agree can work.

Too much to ask?

Comments.

I really like this post, FINALLY some sense..look AT THE MONEY..lets face it at this point we rebuilding for the millionth time, we rebuild with DAK and his big contract IMHO this will be a huge mistake that will cost Cowboys organization for a LONG time. Look at Mahommes...that's the kind of qb you break the bank for, an arron rodgers, a Drew Brees, a Lamar Jackson, now say these names in the same breath as DAK I dare you......sorry but this post hits it on the head great job man.

 

[Redball Express]

I think you offer Dak 30M/yr with some out clauses, and go. If he takes it draft low a new trainee. If he doesn't then tag him and draft higher the guy with the most upside. You aren't destroying the cap by offering QB 30, #1 WR 15, and #1 CB 10........now whether they will take it is another story. Dak is the only one I would say tag if he doesn't take it this year, and that is only to allow your new HC/QB coach to find the guy he wants there, if Dak is unreasonable with pay.

With this said, it always works this way. Dallas knew with Romo they had to upgrade the line, so they did, and paid handsomely. That made the QB and RB look good, so they wanted paid handsomely as well. LOL, just a vicious cycle. Would the RB, QB or WR look anywhere near this good if they didn't have a very good line......NOPE, but they want to play hardball for more $$$$$. None of them would look good behind say Cincinnati's line.

Totally true, bro.

Having made the decision to build the OL for Romo and drafting Zeke, too..

it elevated Dak right off the bat.

How much has that made Dak who he is today?

Dak without Zeke is really, actually, pedestrian.

Both without the OL..completely different careers.

If Dak leaves.. we will see him plummet as a top QB. Take Zeke away..

Dak will be running for his life.

All this is not debatable.

The leverage is all with the team..

not with the player.

 

[Redball Express]

Could Romo get it done? Coaching matters.

Indeed.

Coaching is everything.

That's why I posted the thread.

Give me our very comfortable cap situation..

Lean on McCarthy to work on his plans..

sign players and use our next 2 drafts to win without rolling dice on Dak.

I think barring anything unforeseen..

we good.

 

[Redball Express]

I really like this post, FINALLY some sense..look AT THE MONEY..lets face it at this point we rebuilding for the millionth time, we rebuild with DAK and his big contract IMHO this will be a huge mistake that will cost Cowboys organization for a LONG time. Look at Mahommes...that's the kind of qb you break the bank for, an arron rodgers, a Drew Brees, a Lamar Jackson, now say these names in the same breath as DAK I dare you......sorry but this post hits it on the head great job man.

My long lost twin brother!

Welcome home.

Mom always said you'd be back.

 

[Redball Express]

LOL “the coach”?

It’s a different head coach with a different defensive coordinator and a different special teams coordinator. Coaching matters.

Top 10 QBs don’t grow on trees.

Dak’s good, young, durable, tough and works his butt off. He’s gotten better as a passer and will keep getting better. Romo wasn’t a finished product at age 26-27 either.

I get the Dak will be best as he gets better.

That is a myth a bit we all will pray for if he ends up being signed.

Thing is..I have seen every QB this team ever had.

The Staubach and Aikmans were the Golden Grail.

On the other hand, the Meredith, Danny Whites and Craig Mortons hit plateaus as starters.

They got us to the edge of several more SB ops but were eventually let go and replaced.

Dak is very possibly another one of these QBs.

Then there is the money and the cap implications with signing Dak.

I just suggest not romancing the stone with Dak.