Are we really going to dump everything into Dak?

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[Dak_Attack_09]

 

[Sparx]

I ve been a fan of this team for 50+ years.

Ever since FA appeared, we have tried to beat the system and try to circumvent the rules.

Now the system has boxed us into a corner.

The team has tried Dak as the Franchise QB and just can't get it done.

Multi-million dollar OL..

Multi-million dollar RB..

soon to be multi-million dollar WR..

soon to be multi-million dollar QB

No titles on the wall..

HC and staff just fired.

Sorry.

Paying Dak at this point will destroy this team for the next 5 years or however long Dak is signed for.

The Jones made a huge decision to finally end the Garrett Experiment in favor of a real football coach.

They righted the ship. But now they are about to mortgage all the future on Dak?

Beyond belief to me.

We have worked for decades to fix our cap, draft wisely, hire capable executives like Will Clay to steer the course..

and we are going to sink everything into a 4th rd draft pick who has come up short like Dak has?

Impossible to believe but it's about to happen.

Whoda think it?

Don't want to beat this into the ground but this team is really in a pickle.

Pass the ketchup and chili.

I need something to disguise this hotdog as I am being asked to eat this thing as a fan.

I know there are tons of threads screaming about alternative paths for this.

As I look at teams who have paid their QBs the big contract, I see them on the sidelines and not playing for a SB.

The Vikes, Packers, Commanders, Pat's, Chargers, Carolina and several others nailed to cap numbers that are designed to stop their ambitions.

Only the 9ers with Jimmy G is paid and playing for a title. But look closely.

He did not have a great season. He completed like 6 passes in each half of the NFC Championship.

I think if that is what it takes..

then keep your money Jerrah.

Let Dak walk and find another QB. I could care less if Dak has the team over a barrel or visa versa.

If Dallas pulls the contract off the table..we are free of all this. Dak can hope some other team to spend the huge salaries required to support his average skill sets.

They won't. Plus pay him $35 mil/yr?

Not going to happen.

I would prefer letting McCarthy go find a QB he wants and play ball.

Draft a defense and another QB or sign a FA QB and in a couple of years before all the offensive guys we have signed start retiring. .

we will have a real shot.

For once I want to see a coordinated push with management, coaching and players and fans united in a clear goal we all agree can work.

Too much to ask?

Comments.

 

[NumOneQB]

He’s going to get $35-$40 million. Is he the best QB? Nope. Is he good enough to win with? Absolutely. Pay the man and concentrate on signing Amari.
Why is everyone so surprised? This was going to happen eventually....

 

[irving]

Ask yourselves. Why is he even in the DISCUSSION to get a pay day? How does his QBR, stats, passer rating, win % stack up last year and since drafted? How does he stack against his peers? ie Carson Wince in every statistical measure? So you have to pay a guy at or close to the going rate for his position? He's out performed his contract? So the OP suggests to let him walk, start all over and then what? Hope that whomever we go with outperforms his contract like Dak did? Then what? So we didn't win a SB on Dak's rookie deal? Is this all on Dak's shoulders? Is that the conclusion? Ask yourselves why did we fire an entire coaching staff?

If you listen to some of these posters, you would think Dak was the entire reason the team under achieved. Many of them will respond that they also know the coaching was bad. Which makes no sense, because if they truly believe that, then they would realize the bad coaching permeates throughout the entire team.

 

[Wizarus]

He’s going to get $35-$40 million. Is he the best QB? Nope. Is he good enough to win with? Absolutely. Pay the man and concentrate on signing Amari.
Why is everyone so surprised? This was going to happen eventually....

Good enough to win isn't worth 40 mill. Paying Dak that much automatically means we're going to suck in other areas. We aren't the Chiefs, where Mahomes is so good, you can dump money on him and your team will still be good.

 

[superonyx]

So you are going to hamstring the coach with 35 million less in talent per year and expect better results than the past?

Its kind of weird how you make the 35m number. You are pretending we are going to let Dak walk away and find a guy off the streets to come in and play for free now?
Or do you want to sign a journeyman like Chase Daniels $10m per year to struggle. Thats a $25m net not $35m.

This thing where modern day fans keep pretending every team with a QB making QB money is somehow handicapped by the salary just shows a lack of knowledge about the big picture. Which players are we losing because we can't afford to keep them all of a sudden? Byron Jones? B Jones is much easier replaceable than a QB is. Regardless of what Dak agrees to play for we are not the team to go spend big money overpaying guys like Sammy Watkins 16m per year in free agency.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Do you have any videos Dak eating some Chucky soup or do we need to go to the commercial bud?

 

[superonyx]

Good enough to win isn't worth 40 mill. Paying Dak that much automatically means we're going to suck in other areas. We aren't the Chiefs, where Mahomes is so good, you can dump money on him and your team will still be good.

This is wrong.

Every team needs a certain number of average types throughout the roster. Look at every team in the league and you will see the JAG's all over the roster. Doesnt mean the team sucks in this area. This is where coaching comes in. This is why the great coaches win every year. They get the most out of regular guys. Since every team will have regular average roster churn types on the roster you don't want your QB to be handled by these types of players. So you have to pay the QB.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

He’s going to get $35-$40 million. Is he the best QB? Nope. Is he good enough to win with? Absolutely. Pay the man and concentrate on signing Amari.
Why is everyone so surprised? This was going to happen eventually....

Deja vu of last off-season here comes that massive Dak contract once again lol....

Hold a small cup as you've already gotten a cold shower last year do you really need another?

 

[LocimusPrime]

I’m gonna see if MM can make him better. That’s fair. Now if he sucks under MM then we had better hope we can cut or trade him.

I don’t hate him or like him. He’s all right I guess

 

[Kwyn]

I ve been a fan of this team for 50+ years.

Ever since FA appeared, we have tried to beat the system and try to circumvent the rules.

Now the system has boxed us into a corner.

The team has tried Dak as the Franchise QB and just can't get it done.

Multi-million dollar OL..

Multi-million dollar RB..

soon to be multi-million dollar WR..

soon to be multi-million dollar QB

No titles on the wall..

HC and staff just fired.

Sorry.

Paying Dak at this point will destroy this team for the next 5 years or however long Dak is signed for.

The Jones made a huge decision to finally end the Garrett Experiment in favor of a real football coach.

They righted the ship. But now they are about to mortgage all the future on Dak?

Beyond belief to me.

We have worked for decades to fix our cap, draft wisely, hire capable executives like Will Clay to steer the course..

and we are going to sink everything into a 4th rd draft pick who has come up short like Dak has?

Impossible to believe but it's about to happen.

Whoda think it?

Don't want to beat this into the ground but this team is really in a pickle.

Pass the ketchup and chili.

I need something to disguise this hotdog as I am being asked to eat this thing as a fan.

I know there are tons of threads screaming about alternative paths for this.

As I look at teams who have paid their QBs the big contract, I see them on the sidelines and not playing for a SB.

The Vikes, Packers, Commanders, Pat's, Chargers, Carolina and several others nailed to cap numbers that are designed to stop their ambitions.

Only the 9ers with Jimmy G is paid and playing for a title. But look closely.

He did not have a great season. He completed like 6 passes in each half of the NFC Championship.

I think if that is what it takes..

then keep your money Jerrah.

Let Dak walk and find another QB. I could care less if Dak has the team over a barrel or visa versa.

If Dallas pulls the contract off the table..we are free of all this. Dak can hope some other team to spend the huge salaries required to support his average skill sets.

They won't. Plus pay him $35 mil/yr?

Not going to happen.

I would prefer letting McCarthy go find a QB he wants and play ball.

Draft a defense and another QB or sign a FA QB and in a couple of years before all the offensive guys we have signed start retiring. .

we will have a real shot.

For once I want to see a coordinated push with management, coaching and players and fans united in a clear goal we all agree can work.

Too much to ask?

Comments.

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts, specific thoughts, on what the Cowboys do next year for a QB if they send Dak on his way into free agency?

Which FA QB would you sign and for how much?

Here is a short list of names to help the discussion along with their projected market value according spotrac.

• Brees - 36.5
• Brady - 33.7
• Rivers - 27.5
• Bridgewater - 20.0
• Winston - 26.7
• Tannehil - 30.5
• Dak - 33.0

Others

• Mariota
• Daniel
• Keenum
• Henne
• Stanton
• McCoy

Draft available QB’s (using Jimmy J’s draft value chart)

• Burrow - #17 overall, 2 future firsts, a number 2 or 3 - probably a 4th or 5th
• Tua - #17, 2 future firsts
• Hebert - #27, 2 future firsts
• Fromm - #17
• Eason - #17

 

[johneric8]

I ve been a fan of this team for 50+ years.

Ever since FA appeared, we have tried to beat the system and try to circumvent the rules.

Now the system has boxed us into a corner.

The team has tried Dak as the Franchise QB and just can't get it done.

Multi-million dollar OL..

Multi-million dollar RB..

soon to be multi-million dollar WR..

soon to be multi-million dollar QB

No titles on the wall..

HC and staff just fired.

Sorry.

Paying Dak at this point will destroy this team for the next 5 years or however long Dak is signed for.

The Jones made a huge decision to finally end the Garrett Experiment in favor of a real football coach.

They righted the ship. But now they are about to mortgage all the future on Dak?

Beyond belief to me.

We have worked for decades to fix our cap, draft wisely, hire capable executives like Will Clay to steer the course..

and we are going to sink everything into a 4th rd draft pick who has come up short like Dak has?

Impossible to believe but it's about to happen.

Whoda think it?

Don't want to beat this into the ground but this team is really in a pickle.

Pass the ketchup and chili.

I need something to disguise this hotdog as I am being asked to eat this thing as a fan.

I know there are tons of threads screaming about alternative paths for this.

As I look at teams who have paid their QBs the big contract, I see them on the sidelines and not playing for a SB.

The Vikes, Packers, Commanders, Pat's, Chargers, Carolina and several others nailed to cap numbers that are designed to stop their ambitions.

Only the 9ers with Jimmy G is paid and playing for a title. But look closely.

He did not have a great season. He completed like 6 passes in each half of the NFC Championship.

I think if that is what it takes..

then keep your money Jerrah.

Let Dak walk and find another QB. I could care less if Dak has the team over a barrel or visa versa.

If Dallas pulls the contract off the table..we are free of all this. Dak can hope some other team to spend the huge salaries required to support his average skill sets.

They won't. Plus pay him $35 mil/yr?

Not going to happen.

I would prefer letting McCarthy go find a QB he wants and play ball.

Draft a defense and another QB or sign a FA QB and in a couple of years before all the offensive guys we have signed start retiring. .

we will have a real shot.

For once I want to see a coordinated push with management, coaching and players and fans united in a clear goal we all agree can work.

Too much to ask?

Comments.

Retirement must be getting to you, a hobby at this point in your life other than football may be the elixer you need.

I think the rock band Styx wrote a song about this aliment called "too much time on my hands"...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dak is purely a bus driver, but not a very good one.

Poor Jerry, he wants a Flacco or Dilfer who can take us into the playoffs.

No soap, ruffians of the green tundra.

Dak will never rise above 8-8, even when the NFC east sucks.

Dak will get $40 mil and 3 years.

Jerry will subjugate McCarthy with a bus driver who has sterling stats but no compass to a winning drive in the NFL.

3 more years of 8-8. Then a new QB to groom.


By that time our O line is a shambles and our WRs a weak version of what they were in 2019.

Blimey, a dystopian world of 8-8 seasons and "we need to do better."

But, what cares Jerry when he can sell a half billion worth of shot glasses, t shirts and barbecuing tools with the Cowboys logo?

A logo that once meant something.

Hollah and brings me a dollah!

 

[Leedscowboy]

I have never met as many out of work Football GM and Personal guys out of work, and all posting on the same forum.

 

[aikemirv]

Its kind of weird how you make the 35m number. You are pretending we are going to let Dak walk away and find a guy off the streets to come in and play for free now?
Or do you want to sign a journeyman like Chase Daniels $10m per year to struggle. Thats a $25m net not $35m.

This thing where modern day fans keep pretending every team with a QB making QB money is somehow handicapped by the salary just shows a lack of knowledge about the big picture. Which players are we losing because we can't afford to keep them all of a sudden? Byron Jones? B Jones is much easier replaceable than a QB is. Regardless of what Dak agrees to play for we are not the team to go spend big money overpaying guys like Sammy Watkins 16m per year in free agency.

Well obviously you are going to pay somebody but the point remains the same. Dak could not get it done with the current salary structure but somehow you expect them to get it done with 35 million less.

 

[shabazz]

I’m gonna see if MM can make him better. That’s fair. Now if he sucks under MM then we had better hope we can cut or trade him.

I don’t hate him or like him. He’s all right I guess

Sounds about right to me........Mediocre.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak may be here 6-7 years but asterisk passing yards and disappearing in big games and against quality teams like the Jets that's laughable. Mr Dak Stats against the scrubs, oh forgot 9 points against the scrubs in the biggest game of the year, that's old Mr clutch Stat Dak, you sir are a joke. You support a Jerry endorsed QB, talk about the kiss of death. Not sure why thinking Dak is average to good causes so much anxiety for folks like you. Hope you enjoy the mediocrity you enjoy and relish because it's been here for 4 years and will most likely be here for 4 or more.

LOL..........Dak led the NFL in late comeback wins his first 3 years. Even turds like you admitted he was clutch. OR did you forget?

Maybe you forgot the playoff game last season where Dak threw for 300 yards and 2 TD's and beat the Seahawks in the playoffs.

Cowboys record under Dak is 40 and 24 in 4 years.

Nothing mediocre about any of it.

You are a total and complete joke on here and I hope you enjoy getting your sorry butt kicked around the board on a regular bases.

I will definitely enjoy watching you cry the blues as Dak is here for a long time.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak may be here 6-7 years but asterisk passing yards and disappearing in big games and against quality teams like the Jets that's laughable. Mr Dak Stats against the scrubs, oh forgot 9 points against the scrubs in the biggest game of the year, that's old Mr clutch Stat Dak, you sir are a joke. You support a Jerry endorsed QB, talk about the kiss of death. Not sure why thinking Dak is average to good causes so much anxiety for folks like you. Hope you enjoy the mediocrity you enjoy and relish because it's been here for 4 years and will most likely be here for 4 or more.

Average to good? Funny how it keeps changing.

I guess you realized how dumb your previous comment was that Dak was backup material?

40-24 Cowboys record under Dak..............Leading the NFL in passing and leading the #1 offense in the NFL just makes your average comment look as dumb as the rest of your opinions. '

NO anxiety at all, just laughter. Gives REAL fans like me all the ammo I need to kick a troll like you around the board.