News: PFT: Mahomes favorite to win 2020 MVP award; Dak and Wentz tied for 5th

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Through 4 NFL seasons, Wentz has 3 career playoff pass yards.

Just a fun fact I like repeating to myself.

Cute of him to remove himself from a playoff game like that. They can’t all be tough guys, I suppose.
Haha, that's so hilarious especially since it's true
 

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Wilson, Rodgers, Brees, Prescott just to name a few. Mahomes is not that great. He's just the flavor of the month because his team won the SB. I hate to burst your bubble but the SB winning QB doesn't make him the best QB. It's a team sport and winning the SB is a team achievement, not an individual achievement. Stop kissing his feet and wake the hell up.

Oh my :eek:
 

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Mahommes is clearly the best player in the league. Hard to believe he’s already been league MVP and Super Bowl MVP and he’s only 24.
 

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Wilson, Rodgers, Brees, Prescott just to name a few. Mahomes is not that great. He's just the flavor of the month because his team won the SB. I hate to burst your bubble but the SB winning QB doesn't make him the best QB. It's a team sport and winning the SB is a team achievement, not an individual achievement. Stop kissing his feet and wake the hell up.

Brees and Rodgers are maybe MAYBE just as good as Mahomes but they’re old so who cares.

Wilson, uh yea he’s great but he’s 5-10 and has never had a season like the the one Mahomes had in 2018, and he has never been league MVP and all that.

idk where your going with Prescott. I think you meant to type someone else name there, but I can’t think of a QB’s name that sounds “Prescott” or has letters in their name around that “P”,“R”,“E” etc...around your keyboard.

I’ll figure it out. I’ll treat like a puzzle .
 

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Brees and Rodgers are maybe MAYBE just as good as Mahomes but they’re old so who cares.

Wilson, uh yea he’s great but he’s 5-10 and has never had a season like the the one Mahomes had in 2018, and he has never been league MVP and all that.

idk where your going with Prescott. I think you meant to type someone else name there, but I can’t think of a QB’s name that sounds “Prescott” or has letters in their name around that “P”,“R”,“E” etc...around your keyboard.

I’ll figure it out. I’ll treat like a puzzle .
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I disagree but whatever, everyone has one.
 

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Dak nor Wentz has shown me anything to make me believe they are great/elite QBs.

Those last 4-5 games that Wentz played with Home Depot guys on the team, clearly impressed alot of us. He did elevate his team when it counted......but hes an Eagle so he can pound salt
 

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Mahomes is the flavor of the month and everyone talking about him are just prisoners of the moment.
JoeKing. I've always enjoyed reading your opinion and input.

But your take on this one has me confused. How is Mahomes the "flavor of the month" when he has lit up the league for the past TWO years straight?

His first full season as starter he threw 50 TDs, 5,000+ yards, made it to the AFC championship game, and was league MVP.
His second full season as starter (even though he was injured) he was player of the month, had a QB rating of 105, and won the Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP (although deserving of the MVP may be debatable).

As such, please explain how dominating for 2 straight years equates to "flavor of the month" and anyone who likes him is just a "prisoner of the moment."
 

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JoeKing. I've always enjoyed reading your opinion and input.

But your take on this one has me confused. How is Mahomes the "flavor of the month" when he has lit up the league for the past TWO years straight?

His first full season as starter he threw 50 TDs, 5,000+ yards, made it to the AFC championship game, and was league MVP.
His second full season as starter (even though he was injured) he was player of the month, had a QB rating of 105, and won the Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP (although deserving of the MVP may be debatable).

As such, please explain how dominating for 2 straight years equates to "flavor of the month" and anyone who likes him is just a "prisoner of the moment."
You certainly seem sold on Mahomes. I'm glad you have this medium to express your opinion about the guy. Much respect.

Now allow me the same courtesy. Just as you have an opinion and expressed it without me critiquing it, I have an opinion too. I'm not asking you to like it or agree with it or even read it at all. Just respect that I have an opinion and despite how it might differ from yours, I expressed it anyway.
 

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Patrick Mahomes favorite to win 2020 MVP award

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Lamar Jackson's odds to win the 2020 MVP award are better than they were before the 2019 season. But the Ravens quarterback is not the favorite. The Westgate Sportsbook lists Patrick Mahomes ...

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really he should have got it this season, got hurt but still I would have gave t to him but they cut it off a regular season and Jackson got it..yes LJ deserved it but Mahomes still was the mvp regardless of what LJ did but the process was as such that it pnly went by RS..
 

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People are going to remember Lamar Jackson was the best regular-season QB in 2019 and there are other QBs just as good or better than Mahomes. Don't replay right away, give it a month when Mahomes is no longer the flavor of the month.
true in a sense but my eyes tell me that mahomes was also the MVP in 2019, LJ got tossed in fort round and all those garbage stats we talked about came late in that game so we judge dak that way we should judge LJ the same.. Mahomes had a very good RS and an hotric playoff run.. he was the best player in 2019 IMO..flavor of the month sure but MJ got many of them and it seems could have had 6 straight at times but voters didnt want it to get stale..Lebron in some ways got the same treatment..football is a bit different but Mahomes is the next Montana..hes got the skills, personality, and his teammates like him..i doubt hes the flavor of the month..

He proved how good he was overcoming all those big deficits. thats elite thats what separates you from the pack..hes not overrated or a one trick one off pony like a foles or Ryan..Mahomes was one bonehead neutral zone infraction by a defender from two sbs I mean going to one your first year and then again your 2nd?
 

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true in a sense but my eyes tell me that mahomes was also the MVP in 2019, LJ got tossed in fort round and all those garbage stats we talked about came late in that game so we judge dak that way we should judge LJ the same.. Mahomes had a very good RS and an hotric playoff run.. he was the best player in 2019 IMO..flavor of the month sure but MJ got many of them and it seems could have had 6 straight at times but voters didnt want it to get stale..Lebron in some ways got the same treatment..football is a bit different but Mahomes is the next Montana..hes got the skills, personality, and his teammates like him..i doubt hes the flavor of the month..

He proved how good he was overcoming all those big deficits. thats elite thats what separates you from the pack..hes not overrated or a one trick one off pony like a foles or Ryan..Mahomes was one bonehead neutral zone infraction by a defender from two sbs I mean going to one your first year and then again your 2nd?
I remember the same hopes being expressed for other players in the past and they never were as good for one reason or another.
 

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pfft, regular season mvp in his first year, superbowl mvp in his 2nd. WAKE UP AND FORM YOUR OWN OPINION. He's a flash in the pan!

Actually his second year, Reid had him take a redshirt year
 

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I remember the same hopes being expressed for other players in the past and they never were as good for one reason or another.
dude I can tell you this, IM a TX Longhorn fan as much as die hard Cowboys Fan and I hate all things Texas Tech which includes PM as college player and I would like anything to say hes overrated and this is a short lived burst of greatness..trust me I wish but my eyes tell me this cat is different , hes truly special..

some players have that innate ability they are on another level and hes having fun doing it VS Dak who looks like hes passing kidney stones trying to throw the football lol its obvious PM is special regardless of how many SBs he wins
 

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dude I can tell you this, IM a TX Longhorn fan as much as die hard Cowboys Fan and I hate all things Texas Tech which includes PM as college player and I would like anything to say hes overrated and this is a short lived burst of greatness..trust me I wish but my eyes tell me this cat is different , hes truly special..

some players have that innate ability they are on another level and hes having fun doing it VS Dak who looks like hes passing kidney stones trying to throw the football lol its obvious PM is special regardless of how many SBs he wins
God bless you for having an opinion that you seem passionate about and having this medium to express it. I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it. But that's okay, adults can have opposing views and still have a civil conversation. As another diehard Texas Longhorn fan, I can relate to your feelings about Texas Tech but I don't let my opinion of collegiate athletes affect my thoughts on how they can translate into professional athletes. If I did that, Connor Williams would drive me insane.
 
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