Twitter: Fisher: Glazer: Dak not going anywhere, not asking for $40M

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Jerry should make Dak highest paid QB in the league . Then make Cooper highest paid WR to join Elliott as the highest paid Tripletts in NFL history. That’s what Jerry still thinks won him those Rings. Such a frikin idiot. We are so doomed. Lol
 

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dak is going to be paid well every cowboys fan is going to have to adjust to that I will just be glad whenits done so the team can move on to other players and deals that need to be made to build a team this season
 

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If Daks worth is actually according to talent level then in the 20 million range rather than 30 then it’s not actually a discount. It’s more about Dak over evaluating his worth.
Market would disagree with you
If he was a free agent he’d get 35 or there about
 

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Jerry should make Dak highest paid QB in the league . Then make Cooper highest paid WR to join Elliott as the highest paid Tripletts in NFL history. That’s what Jerry still thinks won him those Rings. Such a frikin idiot. We are so doomed. Lol

It’s bizarre to invest a lot into players who had almost no playoff success.

Our only hope is the CBA goes way up.
 

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The signing of a player at the QB position changes the roster management model for a team when that player is paid at or above the top 5 currently playing the position. The Cowboys should have laid the ground work for this signing last year, but still have time to get it done.
  1. Trade one of your best OL not named Collins: A franchise QB (and RB for that matter) should be able to overcome the loss of a player from the OL, particularly when you are carrying 3 pro bowlers with first round talent and commensurate salary.
  2. Set up a scenario to move on from Cooper and get something in return: Perhaps the Cowboys can franchise and trade him or use one of the other tools at their disposal to get trade for him, but you can't have a top tier salaried RB, QB and WR on offense and expect to maintain a competitive roster. A top QB should be able to elevate the team and sustain productivity with his arm talent after a dip talent . Still a number of good weapons to deploy in the passing game.
  3. Have to find a way to cut loose Zeke's contract before paying a franchise QB. This signing may ultimately become the demise of the Cowboys.
If Dak lights it up under these conditions, I would feel comfortable enough to make him a upper echelon paid QB. Of course, their timing is bad as usual and the Mahomes contract will dramatically reset the QB market.
 

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I don't care if he's asking for $40 million or "only" $36-38 million. That's a lot of money for a QB that hasn't done anything more than win a division title.

Yes, it takes a supporting cast - QBs don't win championships on their own - but a huge QB contract only makes that a harder task. I'm skeptical.
Mahomes is the exception, not the rule. There are aren't lot of QBs who have only won two division titles, rookie of the year, and won a playoff game in their first four years before going on to do more later.
 
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Most of the teams we see coming up now winning championships are because their key talent are still on their Rookie contracts with rare exception like with Pats and Brady.

We’ve seen it time and time again. The Cowboys best window for success with Dak and Zeke has passed. We’ll be chasing that for the duration of their careers here.
Only saving grace is we've drafted reasonably well. These contracts just put the pressure on McClay and Co. to continue that trend.
 

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Here is the perfect example of Romo's hype machine. I Love Romo but elevated to WHAT exactly? They got big contracts but Romo's playoff record is putrid. Since when did Cowboys Franchise elevation standards drop?

Romo's greatest chance came with Parcells in 2006 when he fumbled the snap....I don't care what talent Garrett had, Jason and Tony never had the formula....one is very good Coordinator that kept HC 6 more years than deserved and the other no more than Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor. Romo is our special player but he is viewed as a very good QB no HOF votes...
Not to mention that during those Miles Austin years, we all expected him to throw a back breaking INT in crunch time. The Romo we got his last two years he had as a starter were his best.
 

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But he led the Egirls to 11 or 12 wins and home field before going down playing at MVP level setting the table for Foles .

If you don’t believe Wentz is a greater talent and passer than Dak then we’ll just have to disagree. Carson’s downfall has been durability.
He really hasn't shown that when he's been healthy enough to play. When he's played, he has not been a better QB than Dak. That's a fact.
 

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It’s bizarre to invest a lot into players who had almost no playoff success.

Our only hope is the CBA goes way up.
That, admittedly, is a little bizarre, but that's the nature of the NFL. Talent is constantly evaluated, and free agency allows movement, and the market - supply and demand - drives up the costs.

I think the problem is we tend to think of players as personnel, similar to other industries, but really the players are the commodity - the product being sold. Businesses often spend a lot of money on research and development and studying market conditions and the cost/benefit of pursuing alternatives. That's what teams do with players - make evaluations and decide to pay what they need based on what gives them the best chance of success.
 

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He really hasn't shown that when he's been healthy enough to play. When he's played, he has not been a better QB than Dak. That's a fact.
That’s probably true but it’s not just about that. It’s about the perception of talent level and how good he was at his highest peak which led them to that home field advantage.

It was also good enough to lead them to the playoffs last year with a much depleted roster around him. That’s what I’d call elevating lesser talent
 

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Hope so.

I want to shake Dak, and tell him: "Dak, you can retire on 30 mil. Get those figures out of your head and take around 30 so we can have a shot at a super bowl. Don't listen to the m orons who think this is some stupid contest about who is making more. It doesn't matter even a little bit what someone else makes."
Tell that to his agent.
 

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Amari Cooper and it's not even worth the conversation or time to read.
I say bring back Dez on a minimum deal, let him tutor Gallop and Cowboys use a premium pick on a wr. Let Cooper walk.
 

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But he led the Egirls to 11 or 12 wins and home field before going down playing at MVP level setting the table for Foles .

If you don’t believe Wentz is a greater talent and passer than Dak then we’ll just have to disagree. Carson’s downfall has been durability.
Purely from the standpoint of throwing the ball, sure, I would agree Wentz is more physically talented in that area. But we all know there are other factors with QBs - intangibles like leadership for example, and mental and physical toughness, and finding a way to make a positive play out of what originally looks like it will be a negative play, and staying calm and steady. I'm not necessarily saying Dak is or isn't better in every possible trait a QB needs, but throwing ability is only a part of it.
 

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Purely from the standpoint of throwing the ball, sure, I would agree Wentz is more physically talented in that area. But we all know there are other factors with QBs - intangibles like leadership for example, and mental and physical toughness, and finding a way to make a positive play out of what originally looks like it will be a negative play, and staying calm and steady. I'm not necessarily saying Dak is or isn't better in every possible trait a QB needs, but throwing ability is only a part of it.
Throwing ability is the most visible quality along with winning.

The first 3 years winning was one of the major checks by Daks tenure. Not so much now. And this trend continues we will sour quickly .

If this is as good as it gets then not sure those other intangible factors are enough.
 
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