Twitter: Fisher: Glazer: Dak not going anywhere, not asking for $40M

Kaiser said:

Agree that the new coaching staff will make a big difference. @xwalker called it early on that teams knew how to read our DL/LB keys and we never adjusted.

At DT they have to sign a FA and draft someone high also, at Safety it seems like they can plan on getting a starter in the first or second round of the draft.

But after they draft I think they will sign a quality backup who is starting caliber but a guy who didn't get a big contract to start.

Someone who can be a good backup at a reasonable price.

Someone like..........

Jeff Heath.

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I would take the 2019 roster with the new coaching staff and be OK with it from a talent perspective.

Obviously I would like some upgrades but the roster they started the 2019 season with was good enough.

Coaching and injuries killed the defense and special teams.

DT Woods missed too many games
LVE to IR.
CB Brown to IR.
Heath missed multiple games and played through injury in others.

DLaw (health in 2020)
Quinn

Woods
Collins

LVE
Jaylon
Lee

Byron Jones
Awuzie
Brown
Lewis

X.Woods
Heath
Wilson (rookie, star of the preseason on defense)


The 2019 problems:
Jaylon: That was all about coaching/scheme.

Awuzie: The scheme was a huge part of the problem. They tried to use him like Deion giving him zero help.

CB Lewis: Hopefully it was scheme/coaching. It was 499 snaps of terrible and 1 INT per 500 snaps type of play for Lewis.

Safety:
Thompson was beyond terrible when he had to replace Heath.
The rookie Wilson only played 16 snaps on defense despite 3 INTs in the preseason.
Note: The new Safeties coach was the DB coach for Wilson in college.

DLaw: They knew he would be limited in 2019 when he signed the contract. He had major surgery late in the off-season. His style requires upper body power because he is not a speed rusher type.

Diehardblues said:

That’s not what I said . I said the fact their teams went to a Super Bowl is more favorable to them . And if Dak had reached one then I think it would have strengthened his leverage.

Wentz led the Egirls to the brink. I’m not sure Foles gets them home field. Wentz deserves that credit. He was playing at a MVP level before going down.

Ultimately it’s about talent level along with production.

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What about the following year when Dak all but eliminated Wentz from the playoffs only for Foles to come in and save the day...again? You nor I have any idea if the Eagles would have won any playoff games if Wentz was under center in 2017. We STILL don't know if Wentz can even win a single playoff game after year 4. What we do know is that the Eagles are sooo stacked that Nick Foles, who can't even keep his starting job in all other situations, is able to win a SB and playoff games with Wentz' roster.

Turkish-Cowboy said:

Really? The football experts on this board was able to make me believe that he wanted to be highest paid QB. I am disappointed now.

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I can’t believe they were wrong. It’s pretty crazy how they’re always right.

I do trust glazer the most. Now he’s always right

Kaiser said:

I'm focused on the facts that Wentz has completed one pass in the playoffs for his entire career, he has a lot of talent around him and that Philly lost to Dallas by 27 points in the game where Wentz and Dak were both healthy.

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Also mentally not checked out like the last game cowboys were

stasheroo said:

That's the indications Fisher's latest gives as well, stating "mid $30 million a year", simple math puts "mid" at 5.

I say that if he wants $35 million a year, I want years as a compromise, at least four and possibly five. That means he gets more guaranteed and the team saves more on the backend when the salaries continue to explode.

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I honestly think what's best for BOTH, the Cowboys AND Dak, just do a THREE-year deal with TWO YEARS guaranteed. He's getting the market rate (likely $35-37M) but it seems both can benefit with an out or a chance to look at this again after a couple of years. Not to mention the new CBA would probably be in place. Also, Mike would still have 3 years left on his deal.......

Hawkeye0202 said:

I honestly think what's best for BOTH, the Cowboys AND Dak, just do a THREE-year deal with TWO YEARS guaranteed. He's getting the market rate (likely $35-37M) but it seems both can benefit with an out or a chance to look at this again after a couple of years. Not to mention the new CBA would probably be in place. Also, Mike would still have 3 years left on his deal.......

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not hating this idea, it might be pure fantasy, but not hating it.

BlueStar22 said:

Mahomes is the exception, not the rule. There are aren't lot of QBs who have only won two division titles, rookie of the year, and won a playoff game in their first four years before going on to do more later.

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He is pretty special
And he’s gonna really get paid for it
The 200 million dollar man, or more

A first rounder plus an excellent defensive starter.

Sign Bridgewater and the money saved signs two more defensive starters.

The additional money saved on his security blanket signs another defensive stud.

Tell me we arent a better team that way, and when Bridgewater throws behind a wide open receiver on 3rd down we are better equipped to overcome it than we were w the 36M man and no compensation or room to help the defense.

He has already proven he cant win with status quo.

Paying him that way means they cant fix the defense.

Tell me where we are going with this.

CATCH17 said:

I’m not confident in McCarthy.. I hope I’m wrong.. We just don’t have the type of QBs he’s accustomed to here.

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Hes got a good track record when it comes to developing qbs. So that's a positive for me.

fivetwos said:

A first rounder plus an excellent defensive starter.

Sign Bridgewater and the money saved signs two more defensive starters.

The additional money saved on his security blanket signs another defensive stud.

Tell me we arent a better team that way, and when Bridgewater throws behind a wide open receiver on 3rd down we are better equipped to overcome it than we were w the 36M man and no compensation or room to help the defense.

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What makes you think Bridgewater will come cheap. Yall don't understand the QB market.

BlueStar22 said:

What makes you think Bridgewater will come cheap. Yall don't understand the QB market.

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Between the draft and veterans theres a lot more available than usual.

Put it this way....if Dak cant agree, its not like the Cowboys can't go out and add a Rivers or Brady short term.

One issue is that also hurts Daks trade value....and if NO one is willing to part w TWO first rounders for the guy, then why pay him like someone who is actually worth two firsts?

THAT is why he isnt signed. Wants more than he is worth and he needs a supporting cast.

fivetwos said:

Between the draft and veterans theres a lot more available than usual.

Put it this way....if Dak cant agree, its not like the Cowboys can't go out and add a Rivers or Brady short term.

One issue is that also hurts Daks trade value....and if NO one is willing to part w TWO first rounders for the guy, then why pay him like someone who is actually worth two firsts?

THAT is why he isnt signed. Wants more than he is worth and he needs a supporting cast.

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....and as bad as this defense was, they played well enough to win the Chi and Phi games, but they couldn't score any damn POINTS, and y'all wanna break the BANK to keep that unit in tact. Ok well I dont agree.

Diehardblues said:

Problem with that is can Dak elevate those around him like Romo did with Miles Austin and Laurence Robinson who had their career numbers while with Dallas and Romo.

Romo only really had the luxury of an All Pro OL, League leading RB and WR1 together one season in 2014 and came within (a catch that wasn’t) from our 1st championship appearance in two decades.

Too bad we never fielded that combination together again.

I’d argue that was our best offensive team since the 90’s. One that was as close to championship caliber as we’ve had. Unfortunately Romo wasn’t afforded that caliber of Elite supporting cast throughout his career.

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I'm only 2 pages into this thread but, you mentioned 2014.
Romo should've been the NFL MVP that year.
He led the league in QBR (113.2) and Comp. Pct. (69.9).
Until then, every QB who led in both categories won the award.
But they gave it to Rodgers.

Week 1 of 2015, he beats the Giants with 7 seconds left to play.
In week 2 he was injured and gone until week 11, where he delivers
a signature win in Miami. Only to re-injure himself 4 days later against
Carolina in a game where he never looked right to start with.
Dallas had lost 7 straight games in Romo's absence.

Hurt again in the 2016 Pre-Season and never saw the field again until
a week 17 farewell drive that ends in a TD.

Okay, the reason for this babbling on, I guess, is just remembering that
the guy spent a career working on himself. He figures it out and really
only gets to play roughly 18 games as truly one of the best in the game.

This post has nothing to do with our current QB or contracts, etc.
No, I'm just reminded of the year he finally figured it out. And how
it ended.

I'll continue reading the thread now... lol

CouchCoach said:

You have to rule out the teams that already have one under contract unless they can move him and I don't think Garoppolo is high end trade bait.

You have some vet FA QB's that might be available and for the teams that are in need of a QB, Lawrence is hanging out there in the 2021 draft. He is still regarded as the plum.

It is unknown what the other teams think of Prescott but he has been there for 4 seasons so he has faced every team but you have to take the GM and HC turnover into consideration.

CAR is kind of a wild card with a new coaching staff and Newton. Is Rivera sold on Haskins? Could Newton end up there?

I am not saying there isn't a market for Prescott but at the price he wants, I don't know how many would even be interested.

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That's the question.........

Hawkeye0202 said:

LOL......Like I said in another thread, Dak's going need some thick skin once his deal is signed. It's going to get ugly, brutal and downright nasty at times. I hope he's ready.......

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Not asking 40M?

Oh sweet thanks Dak.

fivetwos said:

He has already proven he cant win with status quo.

Paying him that way means they cant fix the defense.

Tell me where we are going with this.

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And you think free agency will fix this defense?

fivetwos said:

He has already proven he cant win with status quo.

Paying him that way means they cant fix the defense.

Tell me where we are going with this.

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I'm moving forward with the reality of what's going on with this team.
Dak is not leaving. He's going to sign a contract that is going to be cap friendly for the 1st year, or two so they can go for it, unlike a cap killing Franchise Tag.
Where are you going?

Hawkeye0202 said:

I was reading the Yahoo article that said he turned down $33M and decided to peek in on the 8000+ comments. The first 25-30 ALL said he didn't deserve it or was worth that kind of money. Wed think he one of the most polarized Cowboy player in recent history now. IMO ONLY a Super Bowl will the slow the attacks he's going receive.

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I do not see it as SB or bust with Dak.

There have been many excellent QBs who have not won a SB and have big contracts.

Ryan with Atlanta, Wentz in Philly, name several more if you want to..

but Dak is going to get paid and then the struggle to win begins.

Thing is the coaching change has been the key. With MM we could win a SB with a lesser QB if needed.

It would just be harder.

So we shall see but I am not going to drive myself nuts over waiting.

Luck plays such a part in all this and we have lacked that for years.

MaineBoy said:

yah, your big mistake is not seeing that the “market ‘salaries” are for better QB’s than Dak. They have skins on the wall like super bowl and playoff appearances. Jeez, even Wentz who is criticized often was able to get his team of Home Depot players to a division title while Dak led a team that lost to the Jets, got embarrassed by the Bears and Bills, and then lost to the walking wounded Eagles the last game. Dak’s market value based on his accomplishments is below those market values. There’s not a team in the NFL that would pay him 35-37 million. I’d love to see him test the open market so people like you could get a reality check. Dak would get the same reality check Garrett got, despite Jerry saying Garret would get 5 head coaching offers if he left Dallas.

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Has Dak ever won a playoff game?