2019 Roster on Defense with Jimmy in 1992

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I say Jimmy could have made the Super Bowl with the starting roster the Cowboys had to begin the 2019 season if all players were healthy.

Jimmy really only had a couple of Super Star players on the 92 defense.
Charles Haley
Ken Norton
CB Kevin Smith was a great player but was a rookie in 92 with 6 starts.
Russell Maryland was a top draft pick, but just OK when he departed the Cowboys.

Coaching makes a difference. A big difference.

 

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Only three players I'd take from the 2019 team over the 1992 team by position, byron Jones over Larry Brown at corner, Dlaw over Tony Tolbert at defensive end and Sean lee over Robert Jones at middle linebacker
 

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I say Jimmy could have made the Super Bowl with the starting roster the Cowboys had to begin the 2019 season if all players were healthy.

Jimmy really only had a couple of Super Star players on the 92 defense.
Charles Haley
Ken Norton
CB Kevin Smith was a great player but was a rookie in 92 with 6 starts.
Russell Maryland was a top draft pick, but just OK when he departed the Cowboys.

Coaching makes a difference. A big difference.


In 92 the Cowboys didn't have a single defensive player make the Pro Bowl but that defense was the #1 defense. That fact was often brought up that the #1 defense didn't have any Pro Bowlers. Now on offense the Cowboys had QB, RB, WR, TE, C, LG, and RT.

Since none of the 2019 defensive players made the Pro Bowl and that defense was not the #1 defense. Actually that defense was the cause of some of the losses the Cowboys had in 20198. That being said, I seriously doubt that Johnson would have gotten this team to the Super Bowl because you can't just say without injuries because those injuries did happen.
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Washington and Everett are light years better than Heath and Woods. Not even close
The concept is NOT that the 2019 roster would be better.

The concept of the thread is that Jimmy could win with the 2019 roster (if they stayed healthy).

James Washington was a journeyman type player. He did his job but the coaching and surrounding players elevated his play.
I remember holt, everett, and washington and casillas making a lot of plays too.
Holt and everett blocked some punts.

Fans remember players as "great" often because that player was on a great team.

The Super Stars on the 92 team were primarily on offense or were rookie part-time starters on defense. Haley and Norton are were the only Super Stars on defense in 92.

Norton and Maryland were the only players on defense that later got big contracts with other teams.


Holt was a marginal player. Jimmy manged to "hide" him within the scheme but Holt got burned often.

Everett was better than the 2019 Safeties but not a super star and they didn't keep him for 93 despite him just getting an OK contract elsewhere.

Washington was "system" player. The team success and the coaching made him into a productive player but his talent was limited.

Casillis was a solid but somewhat under-sized DT. Much of the DL success was based on a rotation.

Maryland was very good for the Cowboys but only made 1 Pro Bowl and zero All Pro selections in his career. He was just OK with the Raiders.

If Jimmy had Lee, Jaylon and a healthy LVE, Vinson Smith wouldn't play and Robert Jones might not either.

Robert Jones was big, strong and fast but Jimmy said in an interview that Jones might not be smart enough to start. Jimmy and his assistants were on Jones' case every minute of every practice that I attended. Jimmy would have made Jaylon into a mega-star; whereas, the 2019 coaching staff let him just freelance and celebrate tackles while the team was losing. Everson Walls once got bench by Jimmy for helping an opponent up off the field while the Cowboys were losing.

Jimmy made an OK defensive roster into the defense for one of the greatest teams of all time.

Coaching matters.
 

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I say Jimmy could have made the Super Bowl with the starting roster the Cowboys had to begin the 2019 season if all players were healthy.

Jimmy really only had a couple of Super Star players on the 92 defense.
Charles Haley
Ken Norton
CB Kevin Smith was a great player but was a rookie in 92 with 6 starts.
Russell Maryland was a top draft pick, but just OK when he departed the Cowboys.

Coaching makes a difference. A big difference.

Your posts are a joy to me.
Thank you.
 

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Coaching makes a difference.
So true. Try telling that to all the Dak haters who posted "Garoppolo lead the 49ers to the Superbowl. Dak can't win in big games".

So much for Shanahan getting credit by leading them to the Superbowl in just under 4 years of becoming a HC. o_O
 

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The concept is NOT that the 2019 roster would be better.

The concept of the thread is that Jimmy could win with the 2019 roster (if they stayed healthy).

James Washington was a journeyman type player. He did his job but the coaching and surrounding players elevated his play.


Fans remember players as "great" often because that player was on a great team.

The Super Stars on the 92 team were primarily on offense or were rookie part-time starters on defense. Haley and Norton are were the only Super Stars on defense in 92.

Norton and Maryland were the only players on defense that later got big contracts with other teams.


Holt was a marginal player. Jimmy manged to "hide" him within the scheme but Holt got burned often.

Everett was better than the 2019 Safeties but not a super star and they didn't keep him for 93 despite him just getting an OK contract elsewhere.

Washington was "system" player. The team success and the coaching made him into a productive player but his talent was limited.

Casillis was a solid but somewhat under-sized DT. Much of the DL success was based on a rotation.

Maryland was very good for the Cowboys but only made 1 Pro Bowl and zero All Pro selections in his career. He was just OK with the Raiders.

If Jimmy had Lee, Jaylon and a healthy LVE, Vinson Smith wouldn't play and Robert Jones might not either.

Robert Jones was big, strong and fast but Jimmy said in an interview that Jones might not be smart enough to start. Jimmy and his assistants were on Jones' case every minute of every practice that I attended. Jimmy would have made Jaylon into a mega-star; whereas, the 2019 coaching staff let him just freelance and celebrate tackles while the team was losing. Everson Walls once got bench by Jimmy for helping an opponent up off the field while the Cowboys were losing.

Jimmy made an OK defensive roster into the defense for one of the greatest teams of all time.

Coaching matters.

Lee may have been smarter, but Robert jones was a big hitter big and fast just like you said, and a decent player. Lee is not even close in that dept. I'm not sold on Jaylon. He is undersized and he does show effects from the knee injury because he cant cut, or plant and adjust his motion on that knee. Yes jimmy would have made him a better player on his strengths because he can hit...but gets burned alot......Tolbert, Haley and Norton really made that defense work...Jimmy just got every ounce of spit out of the rest to gel the defense....
 

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I say Jimmy could have made the Super Bowl with the starting roster the Cowboys had to begin the 2019 season if all players were healthy.

Jimmy really only had a couple of Super Star players on the 92 defense.
Charles Haley
Ken Norton
CB Kevin Smith was a great player but was a rookie in 92 with 6 starts.
Russell Maryland was a top draft pick, but just OK when he departed the Cowboys.

Coaching makes a difference. A big difference.


dude, I'll take Maryland or Casillas over any set of DTs in the JJ era, in rotation with Lett and Hennings ...
when your DTs are beating their man on most snaps ... it usually works out to game over, most games are won between the OTs

comparing the defenses ... Haley of any edge rusher in the JJ era, and frankly, I'd definity take the whole 92 DB squad, man for man, over the 2019 unit

Jimmy's teams had a reckless abandon you rarely see, they were riding a wave and he handled it well, but it's easy to coach players who can execute
 

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I'd take DLaw over Charles Haley. Troy Aikman was a bus driver. Jimmy Johnson was no Bill Parcells. And Emmitt made that defense #1.

:popcorn:
 

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Only three players I'd take from the 2019 team over the 1992 team by position, byron Jones over Larry Brown at corner, Dlaw over Tony Tolbert at defensive end and Sean lee over Robert Jones at middle linebacker

Although I mostly agree on Lawrence over Tolbert, I think Tolbert is underappreciated. He had 8.5 sacks that year, got quite a bit of pressure otherwise and was pretty good against the run.
 

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That's really all you needed to say.

Thank goodness The Clapper is gone and McCarthy is calling the shots now.

Yeah, because this team was rolling before JG. :muttley:

Where do I buy this Kool Aid? The only coach Jerry hired who was worth anything was Jimmy, and lucky for us. Every coach he's hired since then has been a joke - please don't try to rationalize Switzer. But okay, McCarthy is going to right all of the wrongs.

I'll believe it when I see it. Last I checked Jerry's Friends and Family Plan are still running the show. I don't expect the results to change.
 

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Tolbert is underappreciated.

^ THIS

Tony Tolbert was one of my favorites and very underrated. Speaking of Tolbert in 1992, here’s Week 3 vs Cardinals. Tolbert steals QB Chris Chandler’s soul at the 1:25:35 mark. It’s worth the trouble of fast forwarding to find it, trust me... and the instant replays are exquisite. Lol



p.s. This is the whole game, so sorry that I couldn’t find a smaller clip. It’s also the game where Michael Irvin went CRAZY for over 200 yds and 3 TD’s. His 87 yarder in the first quarter is a thing of beauty.
 

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The DL rotation that jimmy built was insane, this current dl cant hold a torch to that or the effort that they put forward.....
 
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