Matthew Stafford is the QB I would go after

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Here are the reasons from every angle.

Why would Dallas do it?
Stafford has 3 years left on his contract.
Much better cap situation than what Dak will be.
Stafford is better than Dak and would crush in our offense
Just turned 32 and would easily fulfill his contract and maybe another few years.
Could end up gaining a 1st rd pick (will explain later)

Why would Det do it?
They are in place to get Tua if they choose
They are rebuilding
They could add an extra 1st rd pick. Maybe Tua and Fulton instead of Okuda
By trading Stafford and drafting Tua the staff buys some time to rebuild and likely can keep their jobs for a few years.

Why would Stafford go along with it?
He's a local kid and grew up a Cowboys fan
He has potential HOF numbers but likely wouldn't get in unless he gets a chance to win some big games.
Better talent around him.
He's getting older and our OL could prolong his career.
His kids get to be around the grandparents.
The best cancer treatment center in the country is in Tex(his wife has a brain tumor)

How would it go down?

Tag Dak with the non exclusive tag. New England or New Orleans(if Brees retires)or another team picking late decides he is worth giving up 2 1sts for him.

We trade the newly acquired 2020 1st rd pick to Det for Stafford. We still have pick 17 and gain an extra 2021 1st rd pick. We save cap space and gain a Qb built to win now. Reports are that he is fully recovered from injury and by sitting out the season he avoided any long term damage.
 
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It's more plausible than your average trade-Dak thread, you definitely deserve some kudos for that. Stafford is a lot better than Case Keenum or Phillip Rivers.

I think Stafford is a good QB who's just been stuck on some terrible teams, but his cap hits aren't really that much lower than what Dak would cost. $21M/$33M/$26M as his deal is currently structured - if Dak gets $35M a year and we backload it a bit, we probably won't be paying him much more than that. Go with the younger, healthier option.
 

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Ummmm no.
Think what you will about Staffords arm but he is just like Ryan and Cousins and Rivers....
I.e they will NEVER win anything. None of those guys can lock in and win consistently.
Cousins has had a stacked team the past two years and missed the playoffs once with zero excuses. Stafford is a tad better but will never win anything either.
At least with Dak I don’t yet know for a fact that he will never win anything....those other guys have been measured and found wanting...
 
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beware_d-ware said:
It's more plausible than your average trade-Dak thread, you definitely deserve some kudos for that. Stafford is a lot better than Case Keenum or Phillip Rivers.

I think Stafford is a good QB who's just been stuck on some terrible teams, but his cap hits aren't really that much lower than what Dak would cost. $21M/$33M/$26M as his deal is currently structured - if Dak gets $35M a year and we backload it a bit, we probably won't be paying him much more than that. Go with the younger, healthier option.
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What would Daks cap hits look like on a 3 year deal look like compared to $21M/$33M/$26M?
 
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ghst187 said:
Ummmm no.
Think what you will about Staffords arm but he is just like Ryan and Cousins and Rivers....
I.e they will NEVER win anything. None of those guys can lock in and win consistently.
Cousins has had a stacked team the past two years and missed the playoffs once with zero excuses. Stafford is a tad better but will never win anything either.
At least with Dak I don’t yet know for a fact that he will never win anything....those other guys have been measured and found wanting...
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Put Dak in Det and see what he could do. Stafford was leading the league in passing 106 passer rating when he went down last year. He is also the only qb in history to have 8 comeback wins in one season.
 

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Gotta love CZ...so go after a QB that has accomplished less than Dak but that has been paid 200 billion dollars in his career. You hate Dak for trying to get a franchise QB contract...but have no problem paying the poster-child of getting a bunch of money and not producing anything. This all made the more funny as Dak already has had multiple seasons better than Stafford.

Stop while you're ahead.

EDIT: And he is injured. Why not former MVP Cam Newton instead?
 
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Sevenup3000 said:
Gotta love CZ...so go after a QB that has accomplished less than Dak but that has been paid 200 billion dollars in his career. You hate Dak for trying to get a franchise QB contract...but have no problem paying the poster-child of getting a bunch of money and not producing anything. This all made the more funny as Dak already has had multiple seasons better than Stafford.

Stop while you're ahead.
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Stafford doesn't have this OL, Zeke or this receiving core and still has accomplished more than Dak. Jets, buff, no, ne games all would have been won last year with Stafford.

edit had you read the original post you would know better.
 
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Killerinstinct said:
Here are the reasons from every angle.

Why would Dallas do it?
Stafford has 3 years left on his contract.
Much better cap situation than what Dak will be.
Stafford is better than Dak and would crush in our offense
Just turned 32 and would easily fulfill his contract and maybe another few years.
Could end up gaining a 1st rd pick (will explain later)

Why would Det do it?
They are in place to get Tua if they choose
They are rebuilding
They could add an extra 1st rd pick. Maybe Tua and Fulton instead of Okuda
By trading Stafford and drafting Tua the staff buys some time to rebuild and likely can keep their jobs for a few years.

Why would Stafford go along with it?
He's a local kid and grew up a Cowboys fan
He has potential HOF numbers but likely wouldn't get in unless he gets a chance to win some big games.
Better talent around him.
He's getting older and our OL could prolong his career.
His kids get to be around the grandparents.
The best cancer treatment center in the country is in Tex(his wife has a brain tumor)

How would it go down?

Tag Dak with the non exclusive tag. New England or New Orleans(if Brees retires)or another team picking late decides he is worth giving up 2 1sts for him.

We trade the newly acquired 2020 1st rd pick to Det for Stafford. We still have pick 17 and gain an extra 2021 1st rd pick. We save cap space and gain a Qb built to win now. Reports are that he is fully recovered from injury and by sitting out the season he avoided any long term damage.
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lol, no thanks. I'll stay with Dak.
 
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beware_d-ware said:
It's more plausible than your average trade-Dak thread, you definitely deserve some kudos for that. Stafford is a lot better than Case Keenum or Phillip Rivers.

I think Stafford is a good QB who's just been stuck on some terrible teams, but his cap hits aren't really that much lower than what Dak would cost. $21M/$33M/$26M as his deal is currently structured - if Dak gets $35M a year and we backload it a bit, we probably won't be paying him much more than that. Go with the younger, healthier option.
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Well thought out reply, hard to argue with anything you wrote.
 
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Sevenup3000 said:
Gotta love CZ...so go after a QB that has accomplished less than Dak but that has been paid 200 billion dollars in his career. You hate Dak for trying to get a franchise QB contract...but have no problem paying the poster-child of getting a bunch of money and not producing anything. This all made the more funny as Dak already has had multiple seasons better than Stafford.

Stop while you're ahead.

EDIT: And he is injured. Why not former MVP Cam Newton instead?
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:facepalm:
 
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Killerinstinct said:
Here are the reasons from every angle.

Why would Dallas do it?
Stafford has 3 years left on his contract.
Much better cap situation than what Dak will be.
Stafford is better than Dak and would crush in our offense
Just turned 32 and would easily fulfill his contract and maybe another few years.
Could end up gaining a 1st rd pick (will explain later)

Why would Det do it?
They are in place to get Tua if they choose
They are rebuilding
They could add an extra 1st rd pick. Maybe Tua and Fulton instead of Okuda
By trading Stafford and drafting Tua the staff buys some time to rebuild and likely can keep their jobs for a few years.

Why would Stafford go along with it?
He's a local kid and grew up a Cowboys fan
He has potential HOF numbers but likely wouldn't get in unless he gets a chance to win some big games.
Better talent around him.
He's getting older and our OL could prolong his career.
His kids get to be around the grandparents.
The best cancer treatment center in the country is in Tex(his wife has a brain tumor)

How would it go down?

Tag Dak with the non exclusive tag. New England or New Orleans(if Brees retires)or another team picking late decides he is worth giving up 2 1sts for him.

We trade the newly acquired 2020 1st rd pick to Det for Stafford. We still have pick 17 and gain an extra 2021 1st rd pick. We save cap space and gain a Qb built to win now. Reports are that he is fully recovered from injury and by sitting out the season he avoided any long term damage.
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Stafford would be a MAJOR upgrade from inept panic riddled Dak!
 
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Killerinstinct said:
Tag Dak with the non exclusive tag. New England or New Orleans(if Brees retires)or another team picking late decides he is worth giving up 2 1sts for him.
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ok read your post, and not bad, but what I quoted here is the key.
I am pretty sure BB would not give 2 firsts for any qb, so forget that.
Second brees wont retire, and even if he did, I doubt very much that they would part with 2 ist's for Dak.

Third I dont think any team would give 2 1st's for Dak, some might give a single 1st, but forget the 2 thing.
The 4th thing is Jones boys are not letting Dak go, and really are kinda stuck with him unless they let him walk.

I would rather have brady than any other vet, but I dont see jones boys doing that either. They are going
to stick with dak, unless Dak does something to make them mad.
 
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