Zeke is an average RB

GimmeTheBall! said:

Jerry gets excited by his newer players. He overpays and then let's them make the team their home in old age.
Next up, a $38 million a year contract for 3 years and 5 more years of mediocrity until we get a proper QB and groom him.

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At this point, the QB is inconsequential. Up until now, with Garrett as HC, we wouldnt have won anything with Brady as out QB.

Now that he is gone, the defense need most of the work. And since Mahomes isnt walking through that door anytime soon, the defense needs to be top notch no matter who the QB is.

Look at it this way.................you arent beating Mahomes in the SB unless you have a great defense. And even then its questionable.

So at this point, haggling about an elite QB is besides the point.

I am all for improving the entire team, but right now, the focus should be on the defense.

Gurley is a shell of himself. I'd say EzE and the NY midget kid are the best RBs.

You’re an average sports writer

Sure he is and Bacon sucks

GMO415 said:

Gurley is a shell of himself. I'd say EzE and the NY midget kid are the best RBs.

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- I actually have Barkley rated over zeke as the premiere back in the nfl, but zeke still ranks among the very top, imo.

- McCaffrey became the new Kamara, imo.. king in explosive splash plays in both run/pass. Not a big power/break tackle guy and one to pound 30+ carries but he’s no finesse runner either.
Not trying be funny with this, but he's such a rarity as I can't recall last time I've seen a white, elite featured RB like him in the NFL.

- Our coaches need to design/use Zeke better than Kellen did, run him in deep formations vs RPO draws, use him on flairs, quick screens and wheel routes in pass game.

- Cook is explosive and elusive in his own right, but his durability is still in questioned, and I think hes' one that you have to be sparingly with his touches.

- Gurley seems like damaged goods, chronic knees limits him and he comes and goes way too often to be depended upon, Rams will cut him and seek a RB in draft, imo.

- Henry when his shoulders are squared up, and he has momentum showcases str8 line explosiveness, homerun speed, power, so-so receiver/blocker and spelled because so.

- Kamara remains terrific run/catch back but like Cook, may need to use more sparingly in total run carries – didn’t seem the same without Ingram sharing the run load.

- i'm not the biggest L. Fornette fan. I don't see the urge, toughness and competitiveness in him that I see in Henry. Same kind of great size/speed ratio though.

- Levion Bell really fell off in Jets since he left Steelers, vastly underused in NY.

- i'd like to get further look at Aaron jones and Nick Chubb

- like Gurley, injuries taken a toll on David Johnson. Could be on his last legs of his career too.

SSoup said:

Doubt it. Romo couldn't even withstand a gingerly preseason workload anymore by then. His body was broken and done.

He's more likely to have been carted off the field than stay on it and win anything.

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Yeah, that cheap hit as he was sliding was "Gingerly"

A freak accident on a cheap hit

But go ahead and continue to spin it that way.

Its what Skip said and Steven A and all the rest of the "Talking Heads" were saying

CowboyRoy said:

At this point, the QB is inconsequential. Up until now, with Garrett as HC, we wouldnt have won anything with Brady as out QB.

Now that he is gone, the defense need most of the work. And since Mahomes isnt walking through that door anytime soon, the defense needs to be top notch no matter who the QB is.

Look at it this way.................you arent beating Mahomes in the SB unless you have a great defense. And even then its questionable.

So at this point, haggling about an elite QB is besides the point.

I am all for improving the entire team, but right now, the focus should be on the defense.

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Yes, range rider, the defense is paramount.
BUT WHERE DO WE BEGIN?
Every position needs baling wire and glue and tape.
Gadzooks!
Our linebacking corp was our strong point, such as it was. Now IVE is rehabbing, Jaylon is turning goofy and Sean Lee is, when he starts, the worst starter in thee NFL.

On D we need a quick "can't miss" infusion of 2 draftees and we need a bus full of FAs.
The line and edge? Shambles. Our secondary plays like the scout team it is.

Soggy biscuits! Its enough to chap me hide and roux our 2020 defensive season.

GimmeTheBall! said:

Sean Lee is, when he starts, the worst starter in thee NFL.

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Oh good Lord.

Cowboys1fan said:

You’re an average sports writer

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And, dear boy, you don't know that a period ends a sentence.
Lol
We're all friends here.

big dog cowboy said:

Oh good Lord.

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I know, you you'd lick the gum off of Sean's cleats.

Yet, dear boy, Sean Lee wants to play in 2020.
!!!
He will be our token player from the rehab and home for the aged. And you will be sooo hap hap happy!

GimmeTheBall! said:

And, dear boy, you don't know that a period ends can sentence.
Lol
We're all friends here.

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I hate a can sentence.

Corso said:

I hate a can sentence.

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It's corrected now, beloved harbor boy. You can can can breathe naturally now.

GimmeTheBall! said:

It's corrected now, beloved harbor boy. You can can can breathe naturally now.

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The hyperventilation can end?
Thank Cthulhu.





And his star spawn!

GimmeTheBall! said:

Yes, range rider, the defense is paramount.
BUT WHERE DO WE BEGIN?
Every position needs baling wire and glue and tape.
Gadzooks!
Our linebacking corp was our strong point, such as it was. Now IVE is rehabbing, Jaylon is turning goofy and Sean Lee is, when he starts, the worst starter in thee NFL.

On D we need a quick "can't miss" infusion of 2 draftees and we need a bus full of FAs.
The line and edge? Shambles. Our secondary plays like the scout team it is.

Soggy biscuits! Its enough to chap me hide and roux our 2020 defensive season.

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You start at DT, plain and simple. Then I think with Jones outa here you move to CB.

NotForLong said:

Yeah, that cheap hit as he was sliding was "Gingerly"

A freak accident on a cheap hit

But go ahead and continue to spin it that way.

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As long as fools are going to pretend to know that Romo would've magically stayed healthy and magically outperformed Dak in 2016, to claim he would have magically led us further? I think it's fair to magically pretend to know Romo wouldn't have stayed healthy enough to do any of it.

My prediction is by far the more reasonable and likely.

And take a look at Romo's stats in 2015. Passer rating in the 70's, more picks than TDs. He wasn't the same anymore anyway. Fools want to pretend he'd have automatically given us 2014-level Romo.

CowboyRoy said:

You start at DT, plain and simple. Then I think with Jones outa here you move to CB.

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yes, DT interior is a big need but i don't believe you jump at it by all and any means necessary.
I believe you identify all defensive priorities and stay close and true to the value of your draft board, imo.

Assuming Byron walks, (and Brown is a nickel guy anyway so he walks too) if we have this CB whose grades are highly regarded and valued on our board than the next DT, then I'm taking that CB.

In other words, you don't draft the first DT in sight for the very sake of filling a need. that's what i'm hoping we didn't do with Trysten Hill - and in doing so bypass much better players
in Thornhill and Rapp.

In fact i'm concerned what Will McClay has done the non-doing rule twice and we've been twice-bitten because of it.
Taking Taco over TJ Watt, because he was more the Marinelli prototype and we wouldn't have a chance at getting Taco or that prototype type DE at our 2nd round pick slot. - so we reached for Taco.

Could we have been so petrified about pushing and panicking for that much needed interior DT force that we reached and made Hill into a better draft selection than what he really was ?

quickccc said:

yes, DT interior is a big need but i don't believe you jump at it by all and any means necessary.
I believe you identify all defensive priorities and stay close and true to the value of your draft board, imo.

Assuming Byron walks, (and Brown is a nickel guy anyway so he walks too) if we have this CB whose grades are highly regarded and valued on our board than the next DT, then I'm taking that CB.

In other words, you don't draft the first DT in sight for the very sake of filling a need. that's what i'm hoping we didn't do with Trysten Hill - and in doing so bypass much better players
in Thornhill and Rapp.

In fact i'm concerned what Will McClay has done the non-doing rule twice and we've been twice-bitten because of it.
Taking Taco over TJ Watt, because he was more the Marinelli prototype and we wouldn't have a chance at getting Taco or that prototype type DE at our 2nd round pick slot. - so we reached for Taco.

Could we have been so petrified about pushing and panicking for that much needed interior DT force that we reached and made Hill into a better draft selection than what he really was ?

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I agree in principle w/ what you're saying.

Hill has an incredible first step. That's why we took him. I didn't agree w/ the pick because he's a project.

We didn't reach for Taco. He went where he was rated. Watt was rated lower by many.

Still, I agree, reaching for need mostly turns out badly. And, there will be several affordable beefmasters for the DLine in FA. I'm thinking we dip into that pool this off.

Nothing about Zeke's career, this far, is average. Saying dumb things, will generate talk, but at what price?

quickccc said:

yes, DT interior is a big need but i don't believe you jump at it by all and any means necessary.
I believe you identify all defensive priorities and stay close and true to the value of your draft board, imo.

Assuming Byron walks, (and Brown is a nickel guy anyway so he walks too) if we have this CB whose grades are highly regarded and valued on our board than the next DT, then I'm taking that CB.

In other words, you don't draft the first DT in sight for the very sake of filling a need. that's what i'm hoping we didn't do with Trysten Hill - and in doing so bypass much better players
in Thornhill and Rapp.

In fact i'm concerned what Will McClay has done the non-doing rule twice and we've been twice-bitten because of it.
Taking Taco over TJ Watt, because he was more the Marinelli prototype and we wouldn't have a chance at getting Taco or that prototype type DE at our 2nd round pick slot. - so we reached for Taco.

Could we have been so petrified about pushing and panicking for that much needed interior DT force that we reached and made Hill into a better draft selection than what he really was ?

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Yep, you go best available on defense. But going into FA, I think that should be your #1 need is DT. You need two of them at least the way that I see it.

Once you have big, stout DT's than this will solve your linebacker problem as they depend on good blocking in front of them.

quickccc said:

yes, DT interior is a big need but i don't believe you jump at it by all and any means necessary.
I believe you identify all defensive priorities and stay close and true to the value of your draft board, imo.

Assuming Byron walks, (and Brown is a nickel guy anyway so he walks too) if we have this CB whose grades are highly regarded and valued on our board than the next DT, then I'm taking that CB.

In other words, you don't draft the first DT in sight for the very sake of filling a need. that's what i'm hoping we didn't do with Trysten Hill - and in doing so bypass much better players
in Thornhill and Rapp.

In fact i'm concerned what Will McClay has done the non-doing rule twice and we've been twice-bitten because of it.
Taking Taco over TJ Watt, because he was more the Marinelli prototype and we wouldn't have a chance at getting Taco or that prototype type DE at our 2nd round pick slot. - so we reached for Taco.

Could we have been so petrified about pushing and panicking for that much needed interior DT force that we reached and made Hill into a better draft selection than what he really was ?

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Marrinelli is the reason we took Taco and Hill last year. Marrinelli and his stupid lineman qualities has screwed us for years.

Just get the best Dlineman PERIOD. If you need a certain kind then your scheme sucks.