Mr. Brady come on down

erod · Feb 11, 2020

CowboysRule said:
Brady is not that good anymore. They won due to their defense and special teams last year. Brady was just good, nothing spectacular. I don't think he would put us over any kind of hump.

He had a horrible offensive line, a terrible receiving corps, and no running game whatsoever.

Put him behind this line, with these receivers (with Cooper), along with Zeke and Pollard.

I suspect he'd look like the guy that won the Super Bowl 12 months ago again.

Plus, this type of offense is his forte.

erod · Feb 11, 2020

Sydla said:
Tom Brady showed signs of age last year. He wasn't very accurate, his arm looked weaker than it has, he completed a just barely over 60% of his passes and a QB rating of 88 and a QBR of 53.

This isn't an endorsement of Dak. It's simply a reality that Brady likely isn't the Brady of 4 years ago.

Name one of his receivers not named Edelman.

CATCH17 · Feb 11, 2020

Sydla said:
Tom Brady showed signs of age last year. He wasn't very accurate, his arm looked weaker than it has, he completed a just barely over 60% of his passes and a QB rating of 88 and a QBR of 53.

This isn't an endorsement of Dak. It's simply a reality that Brady likely isn't the Brady of 4 years ago.

That's fine..

I think most people still believe in Brady.. Regardless it's a short term deal and gets you out of paying elite money for a slightly above mediocre QB.

Keep paying for the foundation and go draft a QB.

Dak's lack of post season success on his rookie deal is not something you pay for.

All these QB's that people point to like Wilson, Goff, and Wentz were on teams that went to and even won the Superbowl.

Dallas has done nothing and we are about to handicap ourselves. Whatever though. Just do the deal and get this thing over with so we can try to figure out how to win a title with this guy and his contract.

doomsday9084 · Feb 11, 2020

On one side:
Brady at $30m per year
Whatever you can trade Dak for

On the other side:
Dak at $35m per year

I don't think that the case against Brady is as strong as people say. Its not just Brady vs Dak. Its Brady, an extra $5m of capspace and the picks you can get for Dak vs Dak.

Personally, I would make a run at Tannehill at $30m per year but the concept of dumping Dak for assets and getting a cheaper vet QB is a strong idea. Paying the QB of an 8-8 team with the 10th best passer rating in the NFL the biggest contract or near to it is a fool's errand. Teams simply don't win like that. NO ONE can point to an example where an NFL team did something like that and went on to win super bowls.

sean10mm · Feb 11, 2020

I think Brady COULD have another good season in him on a loaded offensive team. Edelman was gimpy all year and needs 2 off-season surgeries, Gronk retired, Sanu looks like a bad trade, Harry looks like a bust, the OL had injuries and regressed badly, Michel regressed badly, it was a mess on offense all around.

The problem is that he's so old he could literally fall apart at any moment. I just don't see how it's a good gamble. It feels like the Dak haters grasping at straws. I'm not a DAK IS ELITE guy but dumping him for a 1 year rental of a dinosaur seems really sketchy.

doomsday9084 said:
On one side:
Brady at $30m per year
Whatever you can trade Dak for

On the other side:
Dak at $35m per year

I don't think that the case against Brady is as strong as people say. Its not just Brady vs Dak. Its Brady, an extra $5m of capspace and the picks you can get for Dak vs Dak.

Personally, I would make a run at Tannehill at $30m per year but the concept of dumping Dak for assets and getting a cheaper vet QB is a strong idea. Paying the QB of an 8-8 team with the 10th best passer rating in the NFL the biggest contract or near to it is a fool's errand. Teams simply don't win like that. NO ONE can point to an example where an NFL team did something like that and went on to win super bowls.

If Tannehill is worth it, why do the Titans give up on him?

cowboygo · Feb 11, 2020

If we sign Brady, I hope we double down and mortgage the future. Trade away picks from 2021 to get an impact player like jamal adams, and please sign chris jones.

sean10mm · Feb 11, 2020

"Superbowl or bust" almost always results in a bust. It usually looks more like the 2011 Eagles going 8-8 than anything else.

That said, Brady is by definition a short-term move. Any team that brings him in is basically selling out the next 5 years in the hopes of winning it all immediately and then blowing it up.

cowboy_ron · Feb 11, 2020

cowboygo said:
If we sign Brady, I hope we double down and mortgage the future. Trade away picks from 2021 to get an impact player like jamal adams, and please sign chris jones.

You can't trade away future picks because you'll likely need them to get in position to obtain a franchise QB.............Adams is not worth multiple high picks plus a huge contract which we'll have plenty of.

cowboygo · Feb 11, 2020

cowboy_ron said:
You can't trade away future picks because you'll likely need them to get in position to obtain a franchise QB.............Adams is not worth multiple high picks plus a huge contract which we'll have plenty of.

Brady ain't happening, but thats the only way I'd be content.

erod · Feb 11, 2020

doomsday9084 said:
On one side:
Brady at $30m per year
Whatever you can trade Dak for

On the other side:
Dak at $35m per year

I don't think that the case against Brady is as strong as people say. Its not just Brady vs Dak. Its Brady, an extra $5m of capspace and the picks you can get for Dak vs Dak.

Personally, I would make a run at Tannehill at $30m per year but the concept of dumping Dak for assets and getting a cheaper vet QB is a strong idea. Paying the QB of an 8-8 team with the 10th best passer rating in the NFL the biggest contract or near to it is a fool's errand. Teams simply don't win like that. NO ONE can point to an example where an NFL team did something like that and went on to win super bowls.

Dream scenario for me.

Trade Dak for two firsts. Sign Brady (or whomever, but Brady makes this team the easy NFC East winner immediately.)

Then, take those two firsts, add our first and second, and call Cincinnati. Do whatever it takes to get Joe Burrow.

Brady for one or two years, then turn it over to Burrow.

Hellyeah!

cowboygo · Feb 11, 2020

erod said:
Dream scenario for me.

Trade Dak for two firsts. Sign Brady (or whomever, but Brady makes this team the easy NFC East winner immediately.)

Then, take those two firsts, add our first and second, and call Cincinnati. Do whatever it takes to get Joe Burrow.

Brady for one or two years, then turn it over to Burrow.

Hellyeah!

or try to get dak back the following year at a reduced price of picks. his performance should dip if his team is worse, according to the board the team makes him.

erod · Feb 11, 2020

cowboygo said:
or try to get dak back the following year at a reduced price of picks. his performance should dip if his team is worse, according to the board the team makes him.

There are a lot of quarterbacks in this league that would have won the NFC East here. About 15-20.

I can't believe they're about to pay this guy.

Bobhaze · Feb 11, 2020

BrassCowboy said:
Ahhh Brady had absolutely no offense to play with so Brady won games despite that deficiency.
Imagine Brady behind this line with all the weapons this team has.

Brady is now the football equivalent of Muhammad Ali, who was the the GOAT in boxing, but continued to box long after he should have retired. Tom Brady is the GOAT at QB but he’s gone from being “the greatest” to just being “the oldest”. Bringing TB to Dallas is a really, really bad idea. He’s almost 43 for gawds sake. His arm is a noodle and he’s just a shadow of what he once was. Avoid!

cowboygo · Feb 11, 2020

erod said:
There are a lot of quarterbacks in this league that would have won the NFC East here. About 15-20.

I can't believe they're about to pay this guy.

idk man, our special teams was trash and we couldn't out scheme the Jets even if we had injuries across the board. we started fast against the bears but we couldn't stop trubisky in the 1st half. hard to pin it all on the qb when it was apparent there were other problems as well.

erod · Feb 11, 2020

cowboygo said:
idk man, our special teams was trash and we couldn't out scheme the Jets even if we had injuries across the board. we started fast against the bears but we couldn't stop trubisky in the 1st half. hard to pin it all on the qb when it was apparent there were other problems as well.

The scheme was fine. Getting our quarterback consistently outplayed by the likes of Darnold, Trubisky, Allen, Bridgewater, etc, was a problem however.

People are going to freak out when the Giants start moving the ball and scoring in New York. Blaming coaches is easy and lazy.

erod · Feb 11, 2020

Bobhaze said:
Brady is now the football equivalent of Muhammad Ali, who was the the GOAT in boxing, but continued to box long after he should have retired. Tom Brady is the GOAT at QB but he’s gone from being “the greatest” to just being “the oldest”. Bringing TB to Dallas is a really, really bad idea. He’s almost 43 for gawds sake. His arm is a noodle and he’s just a shadow of what he once was. Avoid!

He won a Super Bowl 12 months ago.

He's not what he was, but he's twice what we've got.

Roadtrip635 · Feb 11, 2020

Brady is done, The team wouldn't let the QB that won them 6 Super Bowls and take a $13.5 million cap hit walk, if they believed he had anything left.

cowboygo · Feb 11, 2020

erod said:
The scheme was fine. Getting our quarterback consistently outplayed by the likes of Darnold, Trubisky, Allen, Bridgewater, etc, was a problem however.

People are going to freak out when the Giants start moving the ball and scoring in New York. Blaming coaches is easy and lazy.

wait what? what does the opposing quarterback's performance have to do with our offense and that the scheme was FINE lol cmon man. Maher was the worst kicker in the league, he had a 66.7% success rate and we kept him after his poor game against chicago. Our starting field position was amongst the worst across the league as well. If you can't stop the QBs you mentioned, how do you expect to even compete. We couldn't stop a mobile QB, let alone one in his second game coming back from Mono. Ridiculous how you don't blame the defense or special teams.

charron · Feb 11, 2020

Jerry should absolutely talk to free agent QB's and just see what it would take to bring one here. Maybe Brady won't ask for 35+ million. He's rarely asked for top QB money so Jerry could still entertain the idea and leverage that against daks agent.

Sydla · Feb 11, 2020

erod said:
Name one of his receivers not named Edelman.

That’s been the case for much of his career.

He’s always made mediocre players look better than they are.

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