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Exactly what I was thinking. I think the money is close enough but Dak wants a 3 year deal. So I see a 4 year (opt out at 3) 140 million. Arguing now over the guaranteed. Maybe 120 guaranteed and 60 up front. Will make him the biggest paid for a minute until mahomes is paid.
Normally I would be on board with saying QBs are paid way too much in a general sense, but one - we don't know all the details and two - Prescott has played at a high level 4 seasons straight, not missing a game for peanuts.
And you're right, which I've said all along. The sooner you extend him the more money you save. Go back a couple years and the high end QBs are not even close to the market now. He might be the highest paid, but not for long and in a couple years fans won't be spouting the "40 million" theory.
 

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Normally I would be on board with saying QBs are paid way too much in a general sense, but one - we don't know all the details and two - Prescott has played at a high level 4 seasons straight, not missing a game for peanuts.
And you're right, which I've said all along. The sooner you extend him the more money you save. Go back a couple years and the high end QBs are not even close to the market now. He might be the highest paid, but not for long and in a couple years fans won't be spouting the "40 million" theory.
After the CBA you will see QBs crack the 50 million. We could have signed Dak for a long term deal 2 years ago for 30 or maybe 32 at most. He has played at a high enough level to be a starter and JJ is on board with him being a franchise QB. Everything else is just reporters stirring the pot. He will be signed and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s already agreed on but JJ will wait to steal the thunder around draft time or maybe combine.
 

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When I was younger I used to think Im tired of making some a hole rich and started my own business. When I got up and running it wasnt like I anticipated and it was lot more work just to run the business. If it wasnt for Jerry and these other owners building the NFL up and buying these teams and advertising their product these players wouldnt be making the money they are making. Dak is replaceable! The Cowboys could draft another QB and he could be garbage and he would still sell Jerseys. These players are all pawns in a game where they were gifted talent. Jerry and the other owners are the ones who took out all the loans and risks of investing and working sleepless nights to get where he has a product that is self sustaining and growing on its own.

The NFL is a cash cow. They limit players earnings with a cap while they rake in millions upon millions of dollars and seen their net worth start with a M and now begin with a B.

Most players are replaceable, but finding a replacement isn't an easy year to year thing.
But Jerry and Stephen slobber over Dak, so I doubt they see it the same way with wanting to replace him asap.
I doubt Bledsoe, Carter or Henson sold a boatload of jerseys.


Jerry definitely has done good for the NFL in terms of growth. As an owner he's done a lot for growing the game, in terms of profit, in the 90's.

Players have also busted their ***** to get where they are now. Very few are so superiorly gifted athletically where they could do minimum and still be successful. Most busted their *** in HS and college training and playing through injuries that will haunt them into their 30's, 40's+
 

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When I was younger I used to think Im tired of making some a hole rich and started my own business. When I got up and running it wasnt like I anticipated and it was lot more work just to run the business. If it wasnt for Jerry and these other owners building the NFL up and buying these teams and advertising their product these players wouldnt be making the money they are making. Dak is replaceable! The Cowboys could draft another QB and he could be garbage and he would still sell Jerseys. These players are all pawns in a game where they were gifted talent. Jerry and the other owners are the ones who took out all the loans and risks of investing and working sleepless nights to get where he has a product that is self sustaining and growing on its own.

So players are "gifted" talent, don't work hard and aren't risking anything while loving, benevolent owners are the ones that stadiums full of people should laud until the cows come home. Good to know.
 

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He was paid exactly what his draft position called for. Just like every other player drafted in history.
I know how it works. Most 4th round picks at QB don't produce. That was my point. He proved he can be a franchise QB because, well, he has been.
 

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Does anyone else ever like to read the stories about these players that make millions and million and end up broke or what they do after football and retires in there 30’s. Some that went on to be successful after making half of what others made. Roger made huge money after football and you barely hear from him. Poor Bradshaw still needs to work cause he has been married so many times. Lol.
 

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No, he is playing on what he earned based on his college performance - that's just the way it is! That's what all first contract players play for!
Again, that's not my point. I'm saying he deserves a salary accordingly moving forward. It doesn't matter where he was drafted, that was 4 years ago and expiring. What matters is how he performed during that time.
 

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Again, that's not my point. I'm saying he deserves a salary accordingly moving forward. It doesn't matter where he was drafted, that was 4 years ago and expiring. What matters is how he performed during that time.

And honestly that's my point as well. He played at well below QB average and we still did not win anything.

It is a tall order to say that we would win if we spent 18% of the cap on him

That's not logical!
 

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The NFL is a cash cow. They limit players earnings with a cap while they rake in millions upon millions of dollars and seen their net worth start with a M and now begin with a B.

Most players are replaceable, but finding a replacement isn't an easy year to year thing.
But Jerry and Stephen slobber over Dak, so I doubt they see it the same way with wanting to replace him asap.
I doubt Bledsoe, Carter or Henson sold a boatload of jerseys.


Jerry definitely has done good for the NFL in terms of growth. As an owner he's done a lot for growing the game in the 90's.

Players have also busted their ***** to get where they are now. Very few are so superiorly gifted athletically where they could do minimum and still be successful. Most busted their *** in HS and college training and playing through injuries that will haunt them into their 30's, 40's+
Its much easier to bust your *** playing a game you love! What Jerry and these owners make shouldnt matter! Its not like they offered Dak 20 mil like I think they should. 33 mil is more than fair for Dak. If anything its these 2nd and 3rd string guys who dont get paid enough but when you raise the salary cap its Dak with his hand in the cookie jar first. Thats just wrong!!
 

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Dak wanting 40M is nothing but speculation created by irresponsible journalism.

Numerous reports close to the organization say Dak is not asking for that type of money. I'm sure the details in the fine print are what's keeping this deal from getting done and Jerry and Stephen's lack of urgency is infuriating.
 

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Its much easier to bust your *** playing a game you love! What Jerry and these owners make shouldnt matter! Its not like they offered Dak 20 mil like I think they should. 33 mil is more than fair for Dak. If anything its these 2nd and 3rd string guys who dont get paid enough but when you raise the salary cap its Dak with his hand in the cookie jar first. Thats just wrong!!

I'm sure Junior Seau agrees with you...

It doesn't until they complain about costs or want the public to fund their cash cow stadium.

So, backups should get paid more, to be a backup, but the most important player on the team-due to rule changes, should take less.

We don't know the exact holdup for his deal. Could be AAV, could be guaranteed or it could be term length. It's February, Dak ain't bullying the front office. They still have full control over him if they choose to slap the franchise tag on him.
 

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And honestly that's my point as well. He played at well below QB average and we still did not win anything.

It is a tall order to say that we would win if we spent 18% of the cap on him

That's not logical!
Well below average? Lmao, well this discussion is over. Teams win, not individual players, especially with the numbers put up.
 

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Ya, why didn't haters complain over Romo's & Aikman's big payday?

I would say Aikman was because he had some Super Bowl victories under his belt. Even then, I would bet if this board was around then you would have had people that complained about it. Did Aikman ever play under the cap rules?

Romo, I seem to remember quite a bit of talk about his contract. Lots of negativity about it.
 

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Well below average? Lmao, well this discussion is over. Teams win, not individual players, especially with the numbers put up.
I meant he played at well below QB average salary and we did not win- a little comprehension helps a lot

We were talking about pay not performance!
 

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Same fans who said "let's make Dak prove it" now hate the consequences of those actions.
Such is life.
People want things the way they want them and ignore reality.
Still fully expect Dak to make 35-37M per year in REAL money on a 4 year deal.
Anything longer and of course he will want more money.
His agent understands inflation, specifically QB pay inflation.

In 4 years QBs will be paid 50m per year at top of scale.
Teams all know this because the next CBA is only going to see player salaries go up and likely come with that 17th game the owners so badly want.
 
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