How about that 2019 Draft Class!

Sydla said:

I think McGovern will end up being a nice player for us. Pollard is a good change of pace back. Other than that?

Hill will be an anchor for years to come. The last giant middle finger from Marinelli to Cowboys fans.

I never really hate any player or coach but I am close to hating Marinelli. He's screwed more than a draft or two due to his stubbornness.

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Why blame him? He didn't force anybody to do anything. They were all aware of the situation with Marinelli responding to his ex player, Scott Frost and Hill's previous HC, and starting a relationship with Hill.

They were also aware that Nick Hayden was one of his favorites because of that coach thing they love of a player milking it for everything he's got. They love effort, which is why they don't get to pick the players. I guarantee you every coach at the Combine will have at least one player steal his heart with hustle.

I think that is a completely unfair portrayal of Marinelli giving fans the finger. If you knew more about the man, that's not something you would put forth. He's a hell of a guy, just not a good DC.

I didn't like him as the DC because he's a cover coach, the opposite of what Rob Ryan was. Marinelli cared about these players and he played it too safe trying to keep from leaving them out in the open. Giving up big plays draws attention. He covered for them by not exposing them as much as he should have and let the chips fall where they may.

dfense said:

I think you have to wait until MCGovern actually plays before you can grade him. Remeber when they trashed the Frederick pick?

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Frederick was seen as a bit of a reach.

McGovern was seen as a guy who dropped. I'll grade him there until we see more.

The Trysten Hill pick is what bothered me on draft day.

I wanted Juan Thornhill, but DK Metcalf, Terry McClain and several others were sitting there too.
It was just frustrating.

I blame that pick on Rod.
Maybe he'll work out, but man, we missed an opportunity in the 2nd round.

buybuydandavis said:

Frederick was seen as a bit of a reach.

McGovern was seen as a guy who dropped. I'll grade him there until we see more.

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And turned out to be the exact opposite. A true 1st rounder and a great pick by Dallas--especially because we traded down to get him....so got both Frederick and T-Will with that pick.

DFWJC said:

The Trysten Hill pick is what bothered me on draft day.

I wanted Juan Thornhill, but DK Metcalf, Terry McClain and several others were sitting there too.
It was just frustrating.

I blame that pick on Rod.
Maybe he'll work out, but man, we missed an opportunity in the 2nd round.

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Im still pissed about this. Picking a project over an instant starter. I’m so glad Rod is gone but we’ve missed out on a lot of great players just because they didn’t “fit” his scheme.

Good riddance.

- His rookie year may have been a waste under Marinelli but I'm not ready to put all of that on Trysten Hill, Its a fresh start and I'll await to see what this offseason/camp brings under
a new and reputable DL coach will bring. Lett returns as well.

- I'll await on McGovern., nothing you can do about a player getting IR- hurt.
Frankly i'm not satisfied with 3rd round picks being mere depth-backups, that's too high a pick for that. and 3rd rounders usually suggest starter types.

But the flip side is I don't 'expect 2nd rounders like the other Connor, (Williams) to lose their starting role either. Cowboys stayed true to the value of their
draft board and selected the next best player on their board, regardless of another high draftee already slated there.
I expect him to compete Connor vs Conner throughout camp, and may the best Connor win ...

- Pollard was a pleasant surprise. As a runner he more than met my expectations with his impressive combination of instinctive vision, in-hole burst, and breakaway speed
and underrated lower body power. He only had the one big Philly fumble on 4th down and his special teams returns was a mess under coach Keith O' Quinn, but he brought me
confidence that he could be a major factor and capable of big runs and plays. He has starter type ability, imo. Next is McCarthy developing him better and more efficient as
a pass receiver vs Kellen Moore. (ditto with Zeke)

- Mike Jackson was once well regarded as a CB prospect but really fell off the map his last year in college and later part of preseason. Joe Jackson/Jelks were far more development types.
Wilson had a terrific preseason suffered an high ankle last game but somehow fell off the map after that as it appeared that he just wasn't that trusted or regarded by previous coaching
staff. Did seem to displayed in limited time the INT hands and ball hawk skills this team so sorely lacks. Look to muscle-bulk his somewhat thin frame up some too.

Loso86 said:

Dude you cant blame him for that and dismiss all the other good drafts hes had as a GM. This gets annoying.

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Number of playoffs wins since 1995 is....

Yes you can blame Jerry.

John813 said:

IMO 2018 wasn't weak.

Obviously it relies on LVE staying healthy but he made the All Pro team his rookie year.
Williams is an average guard that struggles with brute force rushers but he also came into the league at 21 years old.
Gallup appears to be a good #2, with possible more upside.

Armstrong and Schultz have been backups and haven't flashed much, but are depth at this point. Wilson made the team this year and may have a future here as a #3 or 4 receiver.

Two years later the only bad pick was Mike White, which isn't too bad to swallow as a 5th round pick.

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I sort of agree with you. But LVE regressed last year before his injury, and a Gallup dropped too many passes, but weak is probably too harsh a description.

JJHLH1 said:

I sort of agree with you. But LVE regressed last year before his injury, and a Gallup dropped too many passes, but weak is probably too harsh a description.

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2017 may end up weak depending on how Woods, Chido and Lewis finish their 4th year. That may end up bad solely on how Taco flames out here.

DFWJC said:

And turned out to be the exact opposite. A true 1st rounder and a great pick by Dallas--especially because we traded down to get him....so got both Frederick and T-Will with that pick.

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So we botched the pick we got for trading down.

dfense said:

I think you have to wait until MCGovern actually plays before you can grade him. Remeber when they trashed the Frederick pick?

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Did Frederick miss his entire rookie year?

John813 said:

2017 may end up weak depending on how Woods, Chido and Lewis finish their 4th year. That may end up bad solely on how Taco flames out here.

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We're the only team to cut their 2017 1st rounder for anything other than off-field issues (Foster for domestic violence).

It's already bad.

John813 said:

It wasn't Jerry being Jerry.

We had no 1st round pick.

Our DC#1 and DC#2 wanted the DT over the safeties.

Their 3rd round pick got injured, **** luck.

4th rounder was a RB, that did well in a limited role.

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Did the DC trick Jerry because I'm pretty sure the GM outranks the DC.

Creeper said:

This means nothing to me. The Cowboys were coming off a 10-6 season where they won the division and won 7 of their last 8 games. They team looked set to do big things in 2019. What was their position of need? The drafted Hill at DT and perhaps that was a disappointment. but we knew he was a project. The Cowboys were drafting for depth. I still think Hill will be a decent 2nd round pick in a year or two.

But I will say this, if they can;t work something reasonable out with Cooper, and he leaves, then the 2019 draft will be a disaster.

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Sorry but this is a load of bull. We had a hot run and were exposed for our flaws when we played a team with a pulse in the playoffs. We had plenty of needs. Mainly on the defense. We did zero to better ourselves in that draft.

But hail to the genius that is Will McClay. Such a winning pedigree he has...

stasheroo said:

So we botched the pick we got for trading down.

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To some degree, yes.
TWill did end up starting for several years as a WR2.--which is not bad for 3rd rounder.
But two great players were taken right after him, so it could've been better.
Freddy was a home run though.

By far the worst flub of that draft was Gavin Escobar with our 2nd rounder. Yikes. oh well

DFWJC said:

To some degree, yes.
TWill did end up starting for several years as a WR2.--which is not bad for 3rd rounder.
But two great players were taken right after him, so it could've been better.
Freddy was a home run though.

By far the worst flub of that draft was Gavin Escobar with our 2nd rounder. Yikes. oh well

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Yeah, love the Frederick pick obviously, but we could have followed it up with Kelce and Keenan Allen afterwards and been set.

KingintheNorth said:

Did the DC trick Jerry because I'm pretty sure the GM outranks the DC.

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“This is going to be on Kris Richard,” Broaddus said. “This is Kris Richard going, ‘If we don’t have defensive linemen, my safeties aren’t gonna mean a damn.’ I’m using my words there. But Kris went into the room and basically explained. This is where you have to have coaches that really understand the draft and understand team building.”

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...e-teams-evaluations-bryan-broaddus-interview/


But what’s also true is that defensive passing game coordinator/secondary coach Kris Richard co-signed the pick of the defensive tackle over the safety. According to sources, Richard felt free safety Xavier Woods has a chance to develop into a star. With Thornhill pegged as a free safety, which would force the Cowboys to play left and right safeties rather than true free and strong safeties, Richard cast his ballot for Thornhill.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article229759614.html


Jerry saw Rod practically adopt Hill and Richard was set on Woods being a star so he went for the DT.
They felt the loss of a motivated Irving and Collins had issues staying healthy.
The FO has valued sparqy players so from an athletic standpoint Hill stood out.


You think if Richard and Rod were begging for a safety they would of told them to pound sand?

Obviously Jerry is the GM and outranks a DC but if his staff wants a guy he will listen.

John813 said:

“This is going to be on Kris Richard,” Broaddus said. “This is Kris Richard going, ‘If we don’t have defensive linemen, my safeties aren’t gonna mean a damn.’ I’m using my words there. But Kris went into the room and basically explained. This is where you have to have coaches that really understand the draft and understand team building.”

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...e-teams-evaluations-bryan-broaddus-interview/


But what’s also true is that defensive passing game coordinator/secondary coach Kris Richard co-signed the pick of the defensive tackle over the safety. According to sources, Richard felt free safety Xavier Woods has a chance to develop into a star. With Thornhill pegged as a free safety, which would force the Cowboys to play left and right safeties rather than true free and strong safeties, Richard cast his ballot for Thornhill.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article229759614.html


Jerry saw Rod practically adopt Hill and Richard was set on Woods being a star so he went for the DT.
They felt the loss of a motivated Irving and Collins had issues staying healthy.
The FO has valued sparqy players so from an athletic standpoint Hill stood out.


You think if Richard and Rod were begging for a safety they would of told them to pound sand?

Obviously Jerry is the GM and outranks a DC but if his staff wants a guy he will listen.

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A strategy that got the Cowboys Taco Charlton over TJ Watt in 2017 and 'Mr. Inactive' Trysten Hill over Thornhill (and plenty of other talent) in 2019.

It's too bad that this team didn't have a staff of scouts that watch tape of players for a living to out together a draft board...

DFWJC said:

And turned out to be the exact opposite. A true 1st rounder and a great pick by Dallas--especially because we traded down to get him....so got both Frederick and T-Will with that pick.

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At this point it's fair to say that TWill's production was more a function of the team than him. I think he just got cut by an XFL team. He wasn't a good pick.

Whyjerry said:

Jerry doing GM Jerry things...

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-class-the-worst-grade-in-the-nfc-east-by-far

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Coop was part of that draft. Not factoring him in is disingenuous. Not thrilled with the class either, but lets be honest.