How about that 2019 Draft Class!

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Coop was part of that draft. Not factoring him in is disingenuous. Not thrilled with the class either, but lets be honest.
I posted after you and honestly I forgot about Amari being a part of this past years draft class but still pretty bad outside of him and Tony Pollard.
 
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Premature grading not even a year later. No mention of Cooper as well. Not every draft pick is All Pro their 1st season, it takes a couple.

Meh.
Well I will admit the numbers look bad but yes they each have room to grow into what the powers that be thought they could be. They can only go upwards from here. I believe Tom Landry would give players 3 years to show they belonged. Hill still looks like he has baby fat on him. Our new trainers need to get him in the gym and have him in top muscular condition with a better eating regimen for year 2. I'm all about waiting for all of these young men but time is critical. NFL stands for Not for long so it is so. We fans are hungry for a championship and we need to see progress right before our very eyes and this 2019 draft class is apart of that progression. I think Pollard did well and Cooper too but they have more to give than last season if used correctly and that is more skewed towards Pollard than Cooper.
 
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Number of playoffs wins since 1995 is....

Yes you can blame Jerry.
And blame the coaches and players too I get it. All I'm saying is if your gonna bash home for bad drafts and bad years and teams. Praise him for good drafts and good seasons and good teams. It's simple
 

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Which is why they cannot afford to pay Dak anything more than 32 mil . Defense needs a lot of help
 

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Assuming Cooper is re-signed and keeps posting productive numbers (pretty plausible, assuming McCarthy is super onboard for him as a starting WR, and assuming injuries don't de-rail him), we got a very good player out of our 1st rounder. Pretending that's not part of the equation is silly.

Pollard looks like a homerun of a pick, and the second Zeke gets hurt and Pollard is given a stretch to be showcased, I think that pick looks even better. If, on the other hand, Pollard continues helping out and it keeps Zeke healthy and effective having a quality backup, that's a win too. (Not unlike how Emmitt benefited when we went and got Chris Warren to finally give us a backup worth taking some work off Emmitt's plate so he could be a better player, even if he wasn't getting the entire RB workload anymore.)

I imagine McGovern is in a similar boat as Pollard where, as soon as an injury opens the door for him to start, he'll look like he belongs. I mean, it's not asking much to step into a guard spot and be the 5th best lineman on the field for our offense. Those are the lowest possible stakes. He should be able to do well in that situation when he gets the chance.

The dream scenario is that Donovan Wilson is given a shot and proves to be a ballhawk who makes plays. I hope our new coaching staff sees some tape of him making plays and decides to put the bit in his mouth and see if he's ready to run with it.

My hopes for Hill are hilariously low at this point. With Marinelli, the guy who liked him, gone? I dunno, man, but it doesn't look good.
 

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Could have been a much better draft if Jerry didn't listen to Marinelli when we drafted Trysten Hill. Jerry needs to step aside and let the scouts decide who deserves to be added and who not to. Too many of our failures in the draft seem to come from poor GM decisions. Listening to the coaches instead of the scouts gets us in trouble far too often. We seem to have a knack for ignoring the red flags when it comes to player character.
 

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No sense crying over spilled milk. We have a new coaching staff now and hopefully their new approach can squeeze something out of guys like Tristan Hill. If not, life goes on. Let's just hope this regime can produce solid drafts and value premium positions like safety.
 

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No sense crying over spilled milk. We have a new coaching staff now and hopefully their new approach can squeeze something out of guys like Tristan Hill. If not, life goes on. Let's just hope this regime can produce solid drafts and value premium positions like safety.

"Spilled milk"? "Life goes on"?

Seriously?
o_O
 

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And blame the coaches and players too I get it. All I'm saying is if your gonna bash home for bad drafts and bad years and teams. Praise him for good drafts and good seasons and good teams. It's simple

25 years and counting. Players and coaches change. The constant is Jerry. It’s simple,no?
 

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We're just going to go ahead and not count Amari?

That's totally reasonable.
I dont at all want Cooper back for that money....

but I'll be the first to admit that he saved the 2018 season and was worth the pick to have him for two years before his true colors began to show.

No one is ever going to get a good "draft grade" when not only the first is traded for a vet, but the evaluation is done exactly ten months after that draft. Anyone who didnt find immediate success as a rookie is worthless by this measure.
 

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I posted after you and honestly I forgot about Amari being a part of this past years draft class but still pretty bad outside of him and Tony Pollard.

Yes. I won't argue how the class looks at this point. We need to see CM play. TP looks better than advertised and Coop is a stud. If we hit on all 3 of those Im not sure how we can call it a bad draft class.
 

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Yes. I won't argue how the class looks at this point.

And that's what any objective person should be doing.

The fact is that when you draft a guy, you essentially have them for four years. After that, you either pay or quit. And just because they don't contribute in that first year doesn't mean you somehow get a do-over or an extra one added to their contract. Sadly it doesn't work that way. So one year into a four year deal, we've gotten nothing out of Hill or McGovern, and little out of anyone else, save for Pollard. But given how much is invested in Elliott, how much playing time can we ever expect out of him?

We need to see CM play. TP looks better than advertised and Coop is a stud. If we hit on all 3 of those Im not sure how we can call it a bad draft class.

If they re-sign and keep Cooper, things look a lot better. If not, they look a lot worse.

And if McGovern should somehow take over that left guard spot? Yeah, that grade bumps up significantly.

And if Hill should somehow turn things around and be the guy they had hoped for? Boom! A D+ might turn into an A. But right now, it's still that D+.
 
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And that's what any objective person should be doing.

The fact is that when you draft a guy, you essentially have them for four years. After that, you either pay or quit. And just because they don't contribute in that first year doesn't mean you somehow get a do-over or an extra one added to their contract. Sadly it doesn't work that way. So one year into a four year deal, we've gotten nothing out of Hill or McGovern, and little out of anyone else, save for Pollard. But given how much is invested in Elliott, how much playing time can we ever expect out of him?



If they re-sign and keep Cooper, things look a lot better. If not, they look a lot worse.

And if McGovern should somehow take over that left guard spot? Yeah, that grade bumps up significantly.

And if Hill should somehow turn things around and be the guy they had hoped for? Boom! A D+ might turn into an A. But right now, it's still that D+.

The moment Coop is signed it becomes a C+ / B- imo. Of course Im projecting TP going forward. Its a shame he didn't get more usage last season, especially when Zeke is pulling himself out. Had we rotated TP more maybe Zeke wouldn't have been gassed as often.
 

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The moment Coop is signed it becomes a B- imo. Of course Im projecting TP going forward. Its a shame he didn't get more usage last season, especially when Zeke is pulling himself out. Had we rotated TP more maybe Zeke wouldn't have been gassed as often.

I didn't have as much of an issue that Zeke took himself out at times last season, my issue was with the when he did it. There are times when this team needs their top running back on the field, and he should know that and plan accordingly. I don't recall Emmitt doing the same when he was in his prime.

Unless they get contributions out of more than Cooper and Pollard, they won't get a passing grade from me.

Cooper was a proven commodity that you got on the cheap for exactly half a season. Not exactly a genius level move. And as good as Pollard might be, he's still your backup running back behind the guy yiu made the highest-paid in the league. How much will he ever be able to truly contribute?
 
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Ok?

Since 2013 the Cowboys have had more voices in the war room. McClay, Stephen, Garrett and coordinators at times have dictated picks. Rod found his next project in Hill and Richard backed the pick on draft day.

How is that Jerry's fault? Do we want Jerry to have absolute say again?
Jerry's the GM. He gets all fault and all credit. That's his job, the one he insists on having.
 

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Jerry's the GM. He gets all fault and all credit. That's his job, the one he insists on having.

I get that, but unlike Jerry of 2002 who was an one man draft show, he sort of evolved since Parcells, outside of the dud of a class in 2009, and allowed more voices in the draft room.

I just can't see Jerry looking over prospects and landing on T. Hill by himself unless his coaches/others talked Hill up to him.
 

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25 years and counting. Players and coaches change. The constant is Jerry. It’s simple,no?
Yea your right. Except when I blame him for the bad I blame him for the hood that comes to I'm not bias ti just negative. Plus would be nice if these players that tall so much would show up when it counts
 
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