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John813 · Feb 13, 2020

Dallas will probably go with the cheapest route for the backup QB. Maybe draft another one late or bring in an UDFA to compete with Rush.

Stash · Feb 13, 2020

America's Cowboy said:
Why is anyone bringing up Rosen? Miami owns his rights, and they are not going to simply give him away. So, might as well forget about him ever coming here, especially just as a backup. It's not happening.

As for Case Keenum, how much would it cost to sign him? Plus, would he be ok being Dak's backup?

Played for $3.5 million in Washington last year.

Even less than I thought.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-Commanders/case-keenum-10079/

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
I agree he has not been good. He was beat out by Fitzpatrick last year.

But is it because he's a bad player? Or was he in bad situations? I don't know. Maybe a guy like McCarthy can bring out the best in him. And if he flashes in the preseason and Dak is still the guy, maybe get a draft pick for him, like the Packers did a few times over the years.

He (Rosen) was a first round pick for a reason. And he's cheap.

(In bold): So was Wince and Goff (1st rounders), and they all are not as good as Dak. Proves just because one is drafted in the 1st round, does not mean they will turn out to be very good. In Rosen's case, he's horrible. He's also under contract with Miami, so he's off limits. Best to look at free agents for a backup QB.

John813 · Feb 13, 2020

America's Cowboy said:
Why is anyone bringing up Rosen? Miami owns his rights, and they are not going to simply give him away. So, might as well forget about him ever coming here, especially just as a backup. It's not happening.

As for Case Keenum, how much would it cost to sign him? Plus, would he be ok being Dak's backup?

His value was low last year after being the 10th overall, as Miami was the only team to offer a late 2nd round pick for him. Flores, on a team that had zero shot to go anywhere, decided Fitz was the better one to play and didn't care for Rosens approach/attitude to the game.

His value is lower than what Miami paid for him. Don't really see the point in getting him though.

Stash · Feb 13, 2020

CowboyFanInLexKy said:
I'd actually be onboard with this in case the Dak drama goes south. I'm all for signing Dak. Just not for no 40 mil..... But if things work out, I wouldn't mind having Keenum as our backup instead of Rush....

That's my thinking.

Best case? Things work out with Dak and you have Keenum as a capable backup, and a Texas guy to boot, so you'd likely have some measure of an advantage with him.

Worst case? Things go badly in Dak negotiations and you have a veteran option to drive the bus for a while.

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

KJJ said:
Don’t see how he could accept he’s anything more than a backup when he could playing for his 6th team in 10 seasons. If he’s not back in Washington next season that will be the third team in 3 straight seasons he went one and done with. He was 1-7 last season and got benched for a rookie. He’s 6-17 as a starting QB the last two seasons. The way he’s bouncing around the league he may end up in the XFL before long. It’s mind boggling how many Cowboy fans would rather have Keenum as the teams starting QB over Dak.

There's a more realistic word I'm thinking other than "mind boggling". Crazy.

CowboyFanInLexKy · Feb 13, 2020

stasheroo said:
That's my thinking.

Best case? Things work out with Dak and you have Keenum as a capable backup, and a Texas guy to boot, so you'd likely have some measure of an advantage with him.

Worst case? Things go badly in Dak negotiations and you have a veteran option to drive the bus for a while.

This whole response is exactly my thoughts as well...

cowboy_ron · Feb 13, 2020

kskboys said:
I would love to sign Keenum as our backup/backup plan.

Just in case what's his name decides to keep playing his little game.

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

What about Colt McCoy? Is he still around and available? What about Robert Griffin, III? Is he available?

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

cowboy_ron said:
Just in case what's his name decides to keep playing his little game.

He's pissed you off that much, CR? lol

ChronicCowboy · Feb 13, 2020

One thing is for sure, the team needs to take the position more seriously. Rush is a poor backup and was likely a Garrett pet project. We need to either sign an established vet or draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round.

CowboyFanInLexKy · Feb 13, 2020

America's Cowboy said:
What about Colt McCoy? Is he still around and available? What about Robert Griffin, III? Is he available?

I'd be OK with either of these as well for a backup...

Stash · Feb 13, 2020

cowboy_ron said:
Just in case what's his name decides to keep playing his little game.

Exactly. The Cowboys have options too, it's high time they start considering those options rather than being ruled by fear and thinking that they 'can't live without' yet another player and getting bent over in the process.

ESisback · Feb 13, 2020

erod said:
Guys like Keenum, Dalton, and Tannehill could do very well with this offensive personnel.

I’d take any of those three over Rush, but 2 big obstacles...
1)Money
2)Ego
Would any of the three accept less money? A backup role?

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

ChronicCowboy said:
One thing is for sure, the team needs to take the position more seriously. Rush is a poor backup and was likely a Garrett pet project. We need to either sign an established vet or draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I'd rather draft this kid in the 4th or 5th (if he drops that far), then groom him just in case.

Cole McDonald (6'4", 220)

ESisback · Feb 13, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
I agree he has not been good. He was beat out by Fitzpatrick last year.

But is it because he's a bad player? Or was he in bad situations? I don't know. Maybe a guy like McCarthy can bring out the best in him. And if he flashes in the preseason and Dak is still the guy, maybe get a draft pick for him, like the Packers did a few times over the years.

He was a first round pick for a reason. And he's cheap.

Little of both?

KJJ · Feb 13, 2020

America's Cowboy said:
There's a more realistic word I'm thinking other than "mind boggling". Crazy.

The last 25 years of not getting past the divisional round of the playoffs along with these up and down seasons that have become a troubling trend have warped the minds of many Cowboys fans. Keenum is just one of many QB names that have come up to replace Dak that makes you question the sanity of many. I’ve been posting on Cowboys fan boards for 18 years and have never seen anything like this. When you read some of the posts on this board you would think the Cowboys have one of the worst QB situations in the entire league.

Not since the days of Quincy Carter have I seen as many Cowboy fans want to move on from a QB as badly as they want to move on from Dak. They’re so against paying him like a top five QB that they would rather have a reject with a career losing record who’s looking for his 6th team in 9 seasons as the Cowboys starting QB. There can’t be a stranger more uneducated fan base than this one. It’s almost like fans here would rather see the Cowboys picking in the top 10 of the NFL draft every year than competing for a Super Bowl.

Direwolf63 · Feb 13, 2020

ESisback said:
Little of both?

That's probably the right answer.

Ranching · Feb 13, 2020

stasheroo said:
Before I get into the meat of this thread, let me preface by saying that it was not created to try to stir up the vigorous debate and arguments from the initial thread that featured the name Case Keenum. But in looking over the guy's career and body of work, I continue to find him an intriguing option to put into the mix for this team.

I'm not saying 'he's better than Dak', so nobody get the wrong impression or your panties in a bunch!

What I am saying, is that hes easily better than Cooper Rush, and somewhere in between Dak level and Rush level.

And what does interest me is in signing Keenum, for two reasons:

To give this team a better backup quarterback, someone who has and can win games if needed. Rush has never shown that ability.

To give this team some measure of fallback option if things did take a bad turn in Dak negotiations. If Dak were to hold out, or somehow force a trade, the cupboard for the Cowboys isn't completely bare.

Based on Keenum's 2019 salary and standing, I think the guy could be had on a multi-year deal in the $4 - $5 million range, at most.

And he proved that on a good team, he can win, and get you to an NFC Championship Game, if the pieces are there around him.

And again, before anyone gets it twisted, nobody is saying the guy is a world beater. But take some time yourself and take a look at his career, college and pros. I think he makes more a decent, highly-affordable option.

Thoughts?

(Here's to hoping I haven't reopened Pandora's box!)

You're full of crap! We dont need to waste money on a backup! Dak hasn't missed a game in four years!!

Lol!!

America's Cowboy · Feb 13, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
Miami will draft a QB and very likely keeping Fitzpatrick as a backup, if not a starter if Tua redshirts, leaving Rosen expendable.

But carry on.

So you'd prefer an overrated/overdrafted sucky QB who would be looking for his 3rd team in 3 years? Eek. More power to you.

Carry on.

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