How would you react if we go WR in the 1st

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When I watch the Chiefs, its not the WRs that jump off the page to me. It's the QB.

I am not sure how the top priority for this team should be a third WR, even a fast one. Note, I am not saying WR in the first is a bad idea but there are clearly other needs (depending on FA as well) that are more important than a speedy WR at 17. It depends on how the draft board falls.

If Kinlaw is there at 17, for example, I think it would be kind of foolish to pass on him to add Reagor or Ruggs.
It should be the WRs.

I'm not saying pass on Kinlaw for one of those guys, but the reality is that Kinlaw isn't likely to be there, and having a great passing game is more important than haviing a great DL.
 

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It should be the WRs.

I'm not saying pass on Kinlaw for one of those guys, but the reality is that Kinlaw isn't likely to be there, and having a great passing game is more important than haviing a great DL.

It should be a WR at 17 but you wouldn't pass on Kinlaw....................

Basically you are saying what I said..........
 

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It should be a WR at 17 but you wouldn't pass on Kinlaw....................

Basically you are saying what I said..........
No I'm not, b/c I think WR is the #1 need for this team.

That doesn't mean pass on Kinlaw, but he's not going to be there anyway, so WR is likely to be the best value at 17.
 

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Depends who is on the board..

If Chaisson is on the board I’m taking him.. I think he’s a potential steal.

Ruggs vs the corners and safeties that are available.. I think I take Ruggs because he has a rare trait and he could blow up in the NFL.

Ruggs & Chaisson are currently undervalued players imo.
 

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I know, thats very general. Specifics are important. However, its also looking like WR could be the best value at 17, and most of the defenders could be reaches.

How would you react if they go WR in the first?

with violence
 

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No I'm not, b/c I think WR is the #1 need for this team.

That doesn't mean pass on Kinlaw, but he's not going to be there anyway, so WR is likely to be the best value at 17.

So if Kinlaw is there at 17, you take him?

There is no way WR, if they bring Cooper back, is the #1 need for this team. That doesn't mean you don't take one there if he's BPA but the notion that WR, is our biggest need is a bit bizarre.
 

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So if Kinlaw is there at 17, you take him?

There is no way WR, if they bring Cooper back, is the #1 need for this team. That doesn't mean you don't take one there if he's BPA but the notion that WR, is our biggest need is a bit bizarre.
WR is the #1 need for this team, even with Cooper back. If you have a good passing game, you will be a good team, regardless of anything else you do. They don't have the talent at WR to do that every week right now.

Yes, I take Kinlaw at 17. But he's not going to be there so it doesn't matter.
 

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WR is the #1 need for this team, even with Cooper back. If you have a good passing game, you will be a good team, regardless of anything else you do. They don't have the talent at WR to do that every week right now.

Yes, I take Kinlaw at 17. But he's not going to be there so it doesn't matter.

Why wouldn't TE then be a bigger need than WR? We have Blake Jarwin, who is basically still an unknown............ and that's it. TEs were a big part of the offenses of the two SB caliber teams.

I guess part of this is that you tend to overvalue what we have on defense like at DT and S. DT and S are bigger needs than WR is Cooper is back. I'd argue TE is a bigger need as well.
 

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When I watch the Chiefs, its not the WRs that jump off the page to me. It's the QB.

I am not sure how the top priority for this team should be a third WR, even a fast one. Note, I am not saying WR in the first is a bad idea but there are clearly other needs (depending on FA as well) that are more important than a speedy WR at 17. It depends on how the draft board falls.

If Kinlaw is there at 17, for example, I think it would be kind of foolish to pass on him to add Reagor or Ruggs.
Unfortunately, I don't think he'll be there. UNFORTUNATELY!
 

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In my opinion, DT is our #1 need followed by SS. Our D got gashed by the run over the last two seasons. I'm hopeful we can fix one or the other during FA, then concentrate on the one we didn't fix with the first pick.

Although a speedy WR will be great, not with the first pick of this draft, IMHO.
 

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I am not just OK but in favor of not keeping Cooper and keeping Jones, Cobb and Quinn. This draft is deep in WRs. I'd get one and let him and Gallup fight it our for #1. Lamb and Jeudy will not there and depending on whether McC wants speed or size, Ruggs is the same size as Cooper but a blazer. If Jeudy hadn't been there, he would the WR they're all talking about.

The problem is after the Combine where he is expected to run in the 4.2's, his stock will rise. Bit if they want a field stretcher, he's the guy.

I think the most empty argument regarding Cooper is the fact they gave up a 1st for him. They gave up 2 for Galloway and Williams. They got 1.5 years out of him and their investment paid off, move on.
 

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Why wouldn't TE then be a bigger need than WR? We have Blake Jarwin, who is basically still an unknown............ and that's it. TEs were a big part of the offenses of the two SB caliber teams.

I guess part of this is that you tend to overvalue what we have on defense like at DT and S. DT and S are bigger needs than WR is Cooper is back. I'd argue TE is a bigger need as well.
Jarwin isn't an unknown. He's a strong downfield receiving TE who will command attention in the seam. Plus, TE isn't an important position.

No, you undervalue what we have at DT and S b/c you don't pay attention to the rest of the league. Collins is a good passrushing DT. Heath and Woods are average starters. Wasting a premium pick on a spot that isn't going to improve your lineup doesn't make sense on a contender.
 

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Jarwin isn't an unknown. He's a strong downfield receiving TE who will command attention in the seam. Plus, TE isn't an important position.

No, you undervalue what we have at DT and S b/c you don't pay attention to the rest of the league. Collins is a good passrushing DT. Heath and Woods are average starters. Wasting a premium pick on a spot that isn't going to improve your lineup doesn't make sense on a contender.
Respectfully, how can you say a DT that can collapse the pocket and play the run isn't a position of need for a contender?
 

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How can you say a DT that can collapse the pocket and play the run isn't a position of need for a contender?
B/c a player like that who is actually attainable doesn't exist.

The run stuffers available can't pass rush, and Collins is the best passrushing DT available.
 

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Yes I know who Chris Jones is. A player like xthat is almost impossible to acquire.

It's like saying go get someone like Aaron Donald. Every team would like to do that, it's not practical.
Did 1x say we should acquire him. Do u even read? ..go play Madden ..let the adults chat
 

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If Kinlaw and Brown are gone (which they will be) and if it's Jeudy, Reagor or Ruggs I am estatic.....how many points will the Cowboys put up with anyone of them, Cooper and Gallup???

Don't like the idea of reaching for a guy just because they play a position of need. In a perfect world I trade down, pick up an extra second or third and grab a wr with one of those picks.
 

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Sign Cooper. Draft a WR in the first (Ruggs/Reagor). That should be the organization's priority for the offseason.

I don't know how anybody can watch the Chiefs and think otherwise.
Speed kills.
 

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This conversation will take care of itself. By the draft we’ll know that Cooper and Cobb are on the team or not. If Cooper isn’t then WR is a must at 17. If Cooper is on the team a WR is a must NOT at 17.

If Cobbs not then I’d be ok with a WR at 51
 

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This conversation will take care of itself. By the draft we’ll know that Cooper and Cobb are on the team or not. If Cooper isn’t then WR is a must at 17. If Cooper is on the team a WR is a must NOT at 17.

If Cobbs not then I’d be ok with a WR at 51

Even if we resign Cobb I’m open to drafting a WR in the mid rounds this year to groom. Cobb would likely be short term.
 

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In my opinion, DT is our #1 need followed by SS. Our D got gashed by the run over the last two seasons. I'm hopeful we can fix one or the other during FA, then concentrate on the one we didn't fix with the first pick.

Although a speedy WR will be great, not with the first pick of this draft, IMHO.
And what if a DT and Safety is bad value at 17?
 
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