Players bullying front office

CouchCoach said:

What I believe has so many posters upset is this feeling of a lack of options, being boxed in, but did the FO plan against this? No, they planned on signing these two players just as they did Romo and Bryant.

GB planned on replacing Favre, KC planned on replacing Smith and NE planned on replacing Brady just like SF planned on replacing Montana. You either plan for it or you are at the mercy of the agent and player at contract time.

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The problem I have is there is really no examples of their plan working out for teams.

God forbid Dakota, who puts his present and future physical well being on the line every snap he takes for our beloved team try to maximize his earnings before the inevitable decline begins. Get your money young man!!

rocyaice said:

Well a Dak’s price isn’t just what he is it’s also what you think he will become as well. That’s up for them to determine.

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exactly, and that is the dilemma because we will be stuck even if he don't become worth it.

behind many of the posts that some call "Dak hating" and "Dak loving" posts are just fans stating opinions based on their own projections.

CATCH17 said:

The problem I have is there is really no examples of their plan working out for teams.

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Plan? They don't have a grand plan, they make it up on the fly.

They didn't plan on drafting Prescott and planned on going into the 2018 season without a WR1. They sure as hell didn't plan on being in a discussion with his agent for this kind of dough. They didn't plan on their RB holding out with 2 years left on his contract.

Booger has been the Scarlet O'Hara of the NFL since he took over the GM job, he will worry about that tomorrow. Only he's worried about tomorrow with this QB because he's young enough for this to happen again but why worry about that now? Do what GB, NE, GB and SF did with their QB's, plan on replacing him before this next one is up.

One of the problems the Cowboys have is self inflicted. They don't get players to compete, almost all of their starters are comfortable. That was the magic of Landry and Johnson, no one was ever comfortable and if they got that way, they got gone. But they made sure they had competition and not like what they had in the secondary, bunch of backups trying not to be.

The Cowboys have not had a concerted effort to get a young QB since Quincy Carter. They took Prescott as a consolation prize and got lucky as they did with the previous QB. They didn't plan, which is why they are where they are, damned if they do and damned if they don't but we've already damned the FO so they're cool with us.

[QUOTE="CouchCoach, post: 10008970, member: 39141"

The Cowboys have not had a concerted effort to get a young QB since Quincy Carter. They took Prescott as a consolation prize and got lucky as they did with the previous QB. They didn't plan, which is why they are where they are, damned if they do and damned if they don't but we've already damned the FO so they're cool with us.[/QUOTE]

I agree with all of that except for the providing competition part.

The NFL is just set up in a way that they know once they get paid that there is no real competition.

Where Dallas is messing up is paying their guys like they have actually done something.

Tony Romo was paid like he was a Superbowl champion QB.. Well we couldn't build a team around him because of it.

Now the same is about to happen with Dak and our only hope is the CBA saves us.

KingintheNorth said:

This dynamic where fans root for billionaire owners who are guaranteed to continue to make millions and millions of revenue each year, as opposed to millionaire athletes who actually perform on the field, and have a very short window to earn money, has always confused me.

The idea that a player is "bullying" a front office is ridiculous.

Do I wish Dak would sign for a reasonable contract allowing the Cowboys to build a deeper, better team around him? Absolutely. I also am a grown up and understand that this is one of a very few times Dak will have the leverage to demand as much money as possible for himself, his family, and their future.

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I don't believe anyone is "rooting" for the owners, It is more about the beginning of your third paragraph. If there was no salary cap, this would not even be a discussion among most fans.

CATCH17 said:

[QUOTE="CouchCoach, post: 10008970, member: 39141"

The Cowboys have not had a concerted effort to get a young QB since Quincy Carter. They took Prescott as a consolation prize and got lucky as they did with the previous QB. They didn't plan, which is why they are where they are, damned if they do and damned if they don't but we've already damned the FO so they're cool with us.

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I agree with all of that except for the providing competition part.

The NFL is just set up in a way that they know once they get paid that there is no real competition.

Where Dallas is messing up is paying their guys like they have actually done something.

Tony Romo was paid like he was a Superbowl champion QB.. Well we couldn't build a team around him because of it.

Now the same is about to happen with Dak and our only hope is the CBA saves us.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't count on the CBA because player evaluation is their challenge. They've really never improved much in that area and I don't see that happening with this crew.

One problem this team has that the others don't, and we don't talk about it much, is the owner's ego. Not just the narcissistic side but the showoff side of him. He wants people to know how much he spends on his things and players. He likes it when they say he's got the highest paid OL. He has a reflective ego with his money, he's the ultimate show off.

Just look back at why he didn't go into what he'd always wanted to do, coaching. He and Johnson both wanted to get into it as Switzer was their role model that they wanted to emulate and Jimmy did but Booger was money driven and has never gotten over that, no matter how much he gets, there will never be enough because someone else has more.

His QB the highest paid, even if only for a short time, that's woody time to him. He was proud to have the highest paid RB. Because he knows they can't do games anymore without talking about how much money the players are making, which just further feeds his ego. Which is why I continue to listen less to the TV and more to music and just watch them play.

Do you think when he goes to the owners' meetings he covets the other owners' rings? Not for a minute because he knows where is counts, in the ratings and revenue, he's #1. That's where he keeps score. That's why all of the coverage is so important to him, it all ends up at the same place, that over inflated ego.

CouchCoach said:

I agree with all of that except for the providing competition part.

The NFL is just set up in a way that they know once they get paid that there is no real competition.

Where Dallas is messing up is paying their guys like they have actually done something.

Tony Romo was paid like he was a Superbowl champion QB.. Well we couldn't build a team around him because of it.

Now the same is about to happen with Dak and our only hope is the CBA saves us.

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Oh Jerry’s ego is the elephant in the room that everyone has decided to ignore.

Jerry Jones ego is the #1 most important thing when it comes to how they run this franchise.

Winning is a distant 2nd at best.

5Stars said:

Why do you keep typing that stupid WAST?

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WASP

CowboyGil said:

God forbid Dakota, who puts his present and future physical well being on the line every snap he takes for our beloved team try to maximize his earnings before the inevitable decline begins. Get your money young man!!

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Poor Dak......so mistreated and disrespected.

zrinkill said:

WASP

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I thought that was what you meant but what do you mean by White Anglo Saxon Protestant? Are you calling someone that? I am that, are you calling me that? It's OK because that's what I am and I am not ashamed of that nor am I proud of that, I guess I am ambivalent about it. But I ain't no cracker or honky. At least, I don't think I am because I was never sure what a honky is. Unless that refers to a guy that would visit a honkytonk and I would most assuredly do so but I would not line dance. A WASP has got to draw the line somewhere.

cowboy_ron said:

Poor Dak......so mistreated and disrespected.

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Pay me what he's going to get and you can mistreat and disrespect me as much as you want. Hell, I'll hire people to come in here and help out and even join in myself and l've got some dirt on me to share!

But the first thing I am going to do is tell Campbell's to stuff those vile cans of clawless cat paws where the sun don't shine. And why would anyone eat that soup because he does? Do they want to have accuracy issues?

zrinkill said:

WASP

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Yep, what a stupid post.

CATCH17 said:

Well I disagree.. There wasn’t anything difficult about making that throw.. The safety was a non factor.You can’t miss a player standing in that much space.. Cooper wasn’t even a moving target.

In the NFL that is considered wide open.

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It's easy for you and I to watch a replay and say the safety wasn't a factor, but it's an entirely different thing for the QB to see the defensive alignment prior to the snap, know the route, possibly see the safety moving that way, and make the throw. It's not a QB in shorts making a throw to a receiver running a pass route in a drill.

That said, I looked close to at the receiver, and you are right that Cooper just set up in the zone and wasn't continuing across the field. The throw was a little high. Not a great throw, but nobody completes 100%, so one play doesn't say much.

Truth:

Much like the rest of Cowboys Nation, quarterback Dak Prescott also wants to know when Jerry Jones will show him the money.

“I’m wondering the same thing, y’all know just as much as me,” Prescott said during a recent sit-down with Yahoo Sports. “Love when that day comes, but I have confidence in my agency — my agents, my team — I’ve got confidence in the Cowboys that something will be done.”

In September, Prescott reportedly turned down a $30 million-per-year offer. When asked if he was a $40 million quarterback, Prescott bluntly responded: “You tell me.”

“If it’s my call to write it [a check], yeah, no telling. I mean, let’s be honest, right,” Prescott said. “Like I said before though, I trust my agents, I trust the Cowboys, something will get done. I’m not going to sit here and put a number on it. Something will happen.”

Prescott finished his fourth year in Dallas with 30 touchdowns and 11 interceptions for 4,902 yards. The Cowboys did not make the playoffs, resulting in the firing of long-time head coach, Jason Garrett.

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Doesn't sound like a bully to me. Sounds like someone letting the experts be experts (agent and owner).
The very last sentence of not making the playoffs resulting in the firing of Jason Garrett should have every Cowboys fan behind Dak Prescott.

CowboyGil said:

God forbid Dakota, who puts his present and future physical well being on the line every snap he takes for our beloved team try to maximize his earnings before the inevitable decline begins. Get your money young man!!

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Dang, you must hate the Cowboys to want Dak to get overpaid, which is a huge stumbling block to a super bowl. Why don't you want to win?

It's all about the taking now. At all levels. Somebody is going to get paid. Why not me?

And who can argue it?

rocyaice said:

This is true however we traded for Quinn we didn’t get him in free agency and he was coming off a down year.

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Good point. Just a residual contract, not a market price, and it cost a pick on top of it.

I keep getting older and the hand wringing over the cap stays the same.

They have to tag him on a non-exclusive , open to trades .

2 first round picks should be enough IF Dak is worth 40M .