Trading up for Burrows makes sense

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I don't understand why anyone would think it better to trade for Burrows than signing Dak. First off Burrows like any other rookie QB is no guarantee just check the history of especially 1st round picks. Second Cincy has already said it would take at least 3 1st round picks to start any trade talks and that would kill a team. It would be a recipe for a 10 year losing streak.
 

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I wonder if the rights to Dak can be traded?
Where Cincinnati would then be in position to negotiate and sign or tag Dak?
That might make it even more affordable.

The Cowboys can franchise Dak and see if anyone will give them 2 first round picks for him. Otherwise he is a free agent and can sign with any team and the Cowboys will receive no compensation. The window to franchise a player opens February 25th so we won't have to wait long to see what Dallas does. I wonder if the Bengals would give up their pick for Dak?
 

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I knew you would say that because you like to argue. But here's what elicited that question......

Question posed......
So Jerry is OK with waiting a few years to contend for a SB after his big overhaul splash? I wonder if he let Mike know about that before he signed the contract.

Your response.....
Let Mike go 7-9 or 8-8 in that stretch with a young quarterback....he'd be fired and essentially be a dead man walking on hire if he had to come in and draft a quarterback.

So that begged a question that you didn't address in your response.

You're good at continuing an argument on technicalities and sometimes obtuse thinking but in the end all you're not making any points. And sometimes I agree with you, but I see no sense in arguing the same thing 2 or 3 days. Useless merri-go-round.
Well this is news to me because I honestly didn't know there was a "argument" or a "debate". I genuinely thought you were asking a question. ANOTHER POSTER made a statement and wondered if Jerry let Mike know he's in it for a 2 or 3 year rebuild. I responded to that post.

You are the one who asked me a question about Dak and McCarthy and I responded. So I'm not totally understanding the angel you're coming from or what you're accusing me of? You're accusing me of liking to argue but I wasn't even aware this was a argument being the original question/satement posed wasn't even from you.
 

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The Cowboys can franchise Dak and see if anyone will give them 2 first round picks for him. Otherwise he is a free agent and can sign with any team and the Cowboys will receive no compensation. The window to franchise a player opens February 25th so we won't have to wait long to see what Dallas does. I wonder if the Bengals would give up their pick for Dak?
Not just Dak, but how much Dak is about to cost also.
 

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I don't understand why anyone would think it better to trade for Burrows than signing Dak. First off Burrows like any other rookie QB is no guarantee just check the history of especially 1st round picks. Second Cincy has already said it would take at least 3 1st round picks to start any trade talks and that would kill a team. It would be a recipe for a 10 year losing streak.

The Rams and Eagles both gave up a ton for Goff and Wentz and both teams eventually went to the Super Bowl because they went all in during Free Agency and built teams around them while they were in cheap deals.

You guys need to stop being scared about drafting QBs.
 

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Whatever it takes.

This franchise is doomed until they fix quarterback.

So were they doomed prior to Dak? Or just doomed when Dak came along? I mean I know the answer......Dak's been here the past 4 years but this team hadn't had success 20+ plus years prior.
You ain't a bad guy after all, lol. Historically speaking, I have absolutely "no answers" for you on this. That QB/HC combo. made not one, but 2 historic runs, defeating one of what I thought were one of the better team's in history in the undefeated '07 Pats squad only to do it again 4 years later.
My tone of those previous posts I mention are geared towards luck and law of averages type rambling because I so despise that Coughlin Eli did that and the Cowboys couldn't.Truly thought the '07 and 14 teams were actual contenders. Especially the 07 team because they actually had a defense.
But I digress, to now overcome or win in spite of ownership, coaching and in my opinion,game manager QB skills, is too tall a task for even luck or the law of averages to finally find the Cowboys Cinderella.
Naw not a bad guy. I support Dakand defend him and that's mostly what people on this site have a problem with me. The love me when I dog anyone else out. Dak is the only one that seems to bother handful of people on this site. I just chalk it up to having something to do with Romo and moving on.

Like this guy here for instance......

Dak has made exactly one Pro Bowl in his first four years that wasn’t an injury replacement. Romo made 3 Pro Bowls (all voted in) in his first four years, playoffs as well 3 of his first four years. Dak falls up short of both. Don’t even get started in stats, Dak isn’t even close. Dak is inferior in every way, although I’m sure you’ll try to come up with some case without taking into account league wide stat inflation. Like I said, when you start talking stats, the laughs are sure to follow.

He's comparing what Dak has done in 4 years to what Romo did in 13. Its clear there's a agenda here.
 

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No matter what the topic the lazy of society says anyone that disagrees with their unqualified blabbering is a hater. Y’all had to learn more than that in life surely?
I've learned that you will run into a lot of idiots in life. It pays to be able to identify them. You really think that these anti Dak posters are qualified? Lol!
 

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The Rams and Eagles both gave up a ton for Goff and Wentz and both teams eventually went to the Super Bowl because they went all in during Free Agency and built teams around them while they were in cheap deals.

You guys need to stop being scared about drafting QBs.
Its the opposite for me. I'm not scared of drafting QB's I'm scared of trading the farm to trade up for a guy.

Rams and Eagles both gave up a ton......but let's remember the Rams were stacked and had drafted well prior to Goff. Soon as Gurley starts to lose a step now the rest of the team is crumbling.

Eagles won a Super Bowl without Wentz. That tells me they too were stacked. There is a argument to be made that if those two teams would've never traded for those guys they would've still had success. Rams made it to the Super Bowl in spite of Goff being terrible in the playoff run. Eagles made the Super Bowl in spite of Wentz being injured.
 

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So were they doomed prior to Dak? Or just doomed when Dak came along? I mean I know the answer......Dak's been here the past 4 years but this team hadn't had success 20+ plus years prior.

Naw not a bad guy. I support Dakand defend him and that's mostly what people on this site have a problem with me. The love me when I dog anyone else out. Dak is the only one that seems to bother handful of people on this site. I just chalk it up to having something to do with Romo and moving on.

Like this guy here for instance......



He's comparing what Dak has done in 4 years to what Romo did in 13. Its clear there's a agenda here.
The only agenda is your cluelessness about football. I’m comparing what they did in their first four years. And Romo wasn’t a starter for 13 years, troll. Try again. Dak isn’t 1/10th as good as Romo was in middle school.
 

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The only agenda is your cluelessness about football. I’m comparing what they did in their first four years. And Romo wasn’t a starter for 13 years, troll. Try again. Dak isn’t 1/10th as good as Romo was in middle school.

Romo didn't start until he was 26.....Dak's age now.

But once again this is a prime example of someone with a agenda. Can't resist without defending Romo. Its a sickness. A Romoholic. Worse than crack and alcohol. Now he wants posters to believe that Romo was a caliber of a professional quarterback in middle school. Do not let these guys trick you.
 

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So were they doomed prior to Dak? Or just doomed when Dak came along? I mean I know the answer......Dak's been here the past 4 years but this team hadn't had success 20+ plus years prior.

Naw not a bad guy. I support Dakand defend him and that's mostly what people on this site have a problem with me. The love me when I dog anyone else out. Dak is the only one that seems to bother handful of people on this site. I just chalk it up to having something to do with Romo and moving on.

Like this guy here for instance......



He's comparing what Dak has done in 4 years to what Romo did in 13. Its clear there's a agenda here.
I think you're cool no matter your opinion.
 

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The only agenda is your cluelessness about football. I’m comparing what they did in their first four years. And Romo wasn’t a starter for 13 years, troll. Try again. Dak isn’t 1/10th as good as Romo was in middle school.
Your hyperbole game is strong.
 

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So were they doomed prior to Dak? Or just doomed when Dak came along? I mean I know the answer......Dak's been here the past 4 years but this team hadn't had success 20+ plus years prior.

Naw not a bad guy. I support Dakand defend him and that's mostly what people on this site have a problem with me. The love me when I dog anyone else out. Dak is the only one that seems to bother handful of people on this site. I just chalk it up to having something to do with Romo and moving on.

Like this guy here for instance......



He's comparing what Dak has done in 4 years to what Romo did in 13. Its clear there's a agenda here.

Yeah,
I'm not in the Dak support group but I have been known to hit the like button on differing opinions from my own provided they also pass my amateur eyeball test.

Dak Presgoat has been the only reasonable Dak supporter poster I have encountered thus far with regards to discussing empirically based criticism in an even tempered tone.

So yeah, I'll be just be an agree to disagree type of guy if your opinion includes Dak as best available option to success going forward. No worries. Go Cowboys.
 

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Yeah,
I'm not in the Dak support group but I have been known to hit the like button on differing opinions from my own provided they also pass my amateur eyeball test.

Dak Presgoat has been the only reasonable Dak supporter poster I have encountered thus far with regards to discussing empirically based criticism in an even tempered tone.

So yeah, I'll be just be an agree to disagree type of guy if your opinion includes Dak as best available option to success going forward. No worries. Go Cowboys.

Well mind you a lot of these guys are trolls. I think even a Dak fan say admit Dak's flaws. If he comes on here and talks about how great Dak is then to me that's trolling. He's trying to rile up the board. I don't pay those too much.
 

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The Rams and Eagles both gave up a ton for Goff and Wentz and both teams eventually went to the Super Bowl because they went all in during Free Agency and built teams around them while they were in cheap deals.

You guys need to stop being scared about drafting QBs.

I'm not scared about drafting QBs. I don't trust the Jones boys.

Remember how they got Dak? It was only after failing to complete trades that would've gotten them Connor Cook or Paxton Lynch. Then there was Jerry's fascination with Johnny Manziel. Last, but not least, the highest draft pick Dallas has used for a QB in the 21st century - Quincy Carter.

The only 2 good QBs since Aikman were accidents.
 

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All comes down to needs and wants. We all want a Tier 1 QB stud like we used to have only we've got a Tier 2 but have had Tier 3's as well and have the record to prove it. We do not know if any of these QB's that will go in the top 10 are Tier 1's. Could be a Goff or Wentz or even a Leaf. We've already got one better than Goff or Wentz or Garoppolo but it looks like we're going to have to pat him Tier 1 money, at least what Tier 1 money is right now.

What we need is D help and depending on what they do with Jones, we need to use that 1st on a CB, not on a trade up for a QB, or a DT if they keep Jones. We need that 2nd for D help as well, a S or DL, not a trade up for a QB because you see, we already have a QB.

We have a good enough QB to get us to the Big Dance, what we don't have is a D to get us through the playoffs.

The QB is just like the HC, he may not be the one you want but he is the one you got and that isn't changing this season.
 
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