Trading up for Burrows makes sense

leeblair

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Dak is unproven but burrows is?
Burrows might be unproven in the NFL, but he would come on a rookie contract and the Cowboys would have 5 years to prove him.
And he proved a lot in college.
Dak is also proven. He's proved he can beat weaker teams but chokes against playoff caliber teams.
 

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Pipe dream but I would love it.

I don't even care about the price. You can't over pay for a legitimate franchise QB.
 

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Burrow is the man. Jerry wouldn't do it but I would love it. It would cost too much draft capital.
 

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It's like this:
Pay Dak and he has less around him because of Cap Capital, or trade up for Burrow and have less Draft Capital to surround him with.

It is a trade off, but who am I to say which one is more valuable?
 

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It's like this:
Pay Dak and he has less around him because of Cap Capital, or trade up for Burrow and have less Draft Capital to surround him with.

It is a trade off, but who am I to say which one is more valuable?
From what I understand, Burrow should be able to carry the team whereas Dak will not be able to.
 

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Let's take a look and see who's on the wrong end here......

2018:
Mayfield and Darnold were top 5 picks. Thus far the best quarterback in the draft has been Lamar Jackson who was a late 1st rounder when the Ravens traded up for him.

2017:
Mitch Tribusky was taken with the 2nd overall pick in the draft:
Mahomes and Watson have been by far superior to him and they were taken I believe 10th and 11th respectively.

2016: My favorite. Jared Goff......best quarterback prospect in the draft. Carson Wentz was considered the 2nd. Now I'm not going to argue Dak is better even though I think he is. Let's just say Dak has been just as good if not better than those guys. Jacoby Brissett is another honorable mention. Hasn't been better than the other 3 but he's faired well thus far for a young quarterback and having to learn two different systems.

2015: Winston and Mariotta.......I guess there's a argument to be made here that Winston is by default the best quarterback in this draft. This has turned out to simply be a terrible draft altogether. Trevor Simien was a 7th round pick....and for arguments sake I wonder how many GM's would rather have Brandon Sheriff/Trevor Simien or if they'd take Marcus Mariotat or Jameis Winston. Either way....I'd say the best prospect this year was Winston but I don't think I want any of them.

2014....Blake Bortles was the top QB picked here........hard to screw this draft up....so many big time players in it but Jags managed to do it.
Teddy Bridgewater, Jimmy Garapolo, Derek Carr....you would've done right by getting any of these guys later on.


So out of all these years....the only favorable one is Winston in 2015 and he has sucked. This wouldn't cause to run away from the 1st overall pick....but it would cause me to think twice before taking one over a guy I know can come right in and be a potential All PRo.


Your attempt to confuse is going nowhere what i said is that QB's taken in the 1st round have a higher success rate than those taken in later rounds, at what point in your post did you dispute that? You didn't all instead all you tried to do is show how some 1st round QB's have faired, exactly what does that have to do with what i said? You can show whatever you want but the fact remains that in the NFL today most QB's starting were taken in the 1st round, it's a fact, your arguments are weak and not based on what is said to you. Name the starter on every NFL team today along with the round he was drafted in the majority were taken in the 1st round and that is what i stated...nice try
 

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From what I understand, Burrow should be able to carry the team whereas Dak will not be able to.
Ah... easy peasy!
It's just like that, so they think?

I like being simple too. It makes things... simple.
 

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buying every piece on the Monopoly board MIGHT make sense to win the game, but its not doable.
 

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If the Cowboys could trade up for Joe Burrow instead of signing Dak it makes better sense.
Burrows would then be under a rookie contract for five years, with a new and capable head coach in Mike McCarthy, and Kellen Moore leading the offense. The Cowboys would save big money compared to giving a big contract to a still unproven Dak Prescott.
The offensive line is still strong, and Zeke is still powerful.
In the short term and the long, trading up for Burrows is a no-brainer.
And signing Case Keenum would give them solid depth for a championship run by 2021.
It makes good sense every way you look at it.

It really makes no sense at all.

Even if we buy the fact that Joe Burrow is better than Dak. I'm an LSU fan and I am not certain I am ready to make that claim, even though I think Joe can be very, very good.

According to the trade calculator, the number one pick is worth 3000 points. Dallas's pick at 17 is worth 950. To get to move up that far, Dallas would have to offer our first round pick in 2020, 2021, and 2022. In addition to that, the Bengals are likely going to want more, considering they are dropping all the way to 17. So, to get Burrow, Dallas is going to have to offer 1sts in 2020, 2021, and 2022 and probably our second in 2020 as well as maybe a third in either 2021 and 2022. So while we will save the 35 plus million Dak would get, a number one pick like Burrow is going to get a contract that pays him roughly 7 million in cap space for this year. While that is considerably less than what the Cowboys would pay Dak, the Cowboys are going to have to spend money to make up the players we won't get as first and maybe second round picks in 2021 and 2022. So, the Cowboys would have to really allocate their cap resources well around Burrow because they would lack the picks to place less expensive talent around him.

So, there are four problems with this plan.

1. The draft capital to move up to get Burrow is enormous.

2. The savings is not as much as you think when we would have to pay free agents to make up the lack of players we can take at the top of the draft.

3. The Bengals have expressed no interest in trading the pick, which likely means the Cowboys have to offer more than the chart indicates just to get them to bite.

4. You have to hope Burrow really is better than Dak because after you pay that much in capital for him, there really is no looking elsewhere.
 

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Even then questionable.

I don’t get it, why is this so outlandish? Because you don’t think Burrow is worth it or because of what they’d have to give up?

Burrow is an NFL ready quarterback from day 1, much like Peyton Manning was.

According to Jimmy Johnson’s trade value chart, the #1 overall pick is worth 3000 points. The Cowboys’ pick at 17 is 950 points, and their second round pick is worth 350.

So, to get Burrow you’re going to have to give up your first, next year’s first, your second and probably one more pick or player.
 

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I don’t get it, why is this so outlandish? Because you don’t think Burrow is worth it or because of what they’d have to give up?

Burrow is an NFL ready quarterback from day 1, much like Peyton Manning was.

According to Jimmy Johnson’s trade value chart, the #1 overall pick is worth 3000 points. The Cowboys’ pick at 17 is 950 points, and their second round pick is worth 350.

So, to get Burrow you’re going to have to give up your first, next year’s first, your second and probably one more pick or player.
Boom! Trade accepted! This is a vacuum and noone else could possibly bid higher, or has the goods to do so!
 
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