Trading up for Burrows makes sense

CATCH17

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The only vets taking pay cuts are aging, declining vets and castoffs, which is what you would rather have as our starter. lol

I want a chance at winning a Super Bowl.. I’m not interested in paying the 10-16th best QB like he is top 3 in the league.

I don’t really care what all of the other stupid teams are doing..
Burrows might be unproven in the NFL, but he would come on a rookie contract and the Cowboys would have 5 years to prove him.
And he proved a lot in college.
Dak is also proven. He's proved he can beat weaker teams but chokes against playoff caliber teams.

He also played in a pro style offense in the best defensive conference by a mile in college football.

He can read defenses at a high level and on top of that he can run.
 

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The only vets taking pay cuts are aging, declining vets and castoffs, which is what you would rather have as our starter. Any QB that’s cheap you’re all in on. lol

Gosh, I'm stuck with Tom Brady. Pity me?
 

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If one could guarantee Burrows will be a future all-pro and be one of the best QBs for a decade sure I would throw a bunch of picks at him and then it would make perfect sense.

But gambling away multiple first round picks for a slim chance at the next great QB, while tossing aside a proven player that may already be top 10 at his position doesn't make a lot of sense.
 

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You haven’t made a coherent argument in four posts. You’re scared to try to put some stats out there because you know I’m going to step on your head as soon as you do that. So all you do is cry and try to deflect. So yeah, that’s all you’re going to get until you stop crying and get back on the subject.
Where was I? Oh yeah, Dak slobberers are crybabies always making excuses for Dak. Regardless of how they got to that point, Romo was better in every way. You’re just frustrated because Dak isn’t signed yet, and it’s all coming out in your feelings. Stop being a groupie, Dak doesn’t care about you and he isn’t going to give you any money.

Point #6.......

.....they will continue to talk about Romo and revise his history.
 

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Gosh, I'm stuck with Tom Brady. Pity me?

You’re stuck with what’s left of a 43-year-old QB who you’ll be paying at least 30M per season. You’ll be lucky to get two good seasons out of him, then you’ll be stuck looking for another QB because the young QB you allowed to walk away has reached his ceiling, helping another team become a consistent playoff contender. Pity you!
 

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Deflection will get you nowhere. Same thing you do with everything that comes up. You take a side path away from the main discussion and steer it in a meaningless direction. Merry-go-round or merri-go-round. Loop argument.

By time you are finished with any "discussion" the main point has been lost in all the drivel. The main point is never addressed, often being lost in all the drivel that goes on back and forth.

Don't believe me? Go back and read the "discussion" (if you call it that) with stasheroo. 2 or 3 days yall have been driveling at each other so far away from the topic of the thread, its not even worth reading because nobody knows what the two of you are driveling about!

If you still don't understand, then its just a matter of time. And that's fine. I accept it.
Funny you talk about deflection. You claim I made a argument or a debate.....yet, you still haven't mentioned what the argument or debate is. And what Stash was doing is exactly what you are accusing me of doing. When he's proven wrong or asked to prove something he answers a question with a question. Its a tactic a lot of people do on this site when they can't admit they are wrong on something........

And then wanted to draft Cook so I do not think Prescott was high on the list. They had Romo returning from injury, backed up by Moore, Prescott could have ended up on the PS is not for those two injuries.

I do remember a lot of talk coming out that Wade Wilson was the Prescott guy within the organization. Prescott's stock dropped from his junior to senior season and the best SEC D's, Bama, Auburn and LSU, didn't help him any. He might not have even gone in the 4th if not for the Cowboys losing out on Lynch and Cook.

And posters want these people picking another QB? No thanks.
I do agree. I can't trust them. They can't be trusted. I give them minor credit for doing their homework on Dak but going after Connor Cook and Lynch...I Think both of those guys may be out of the league already.

I agree with this to a point. but I just have a problem with the way Prescott has played against top teams the last couple of years.
I don't look at it as a Dak issue I look at it as a team issue. This team in general seems to struggle with the top teams and to me that was a reflection on Garrett's coaching. Any time a starter is out it results in a loss. Teams win without their starters all the time but Garrett wasn't capable of winning a game they weren't suppose to. It would happened rarely like the Saints game 2 years ago.

Your attempt to confuse is going nowhere what i said is that QB's taken in the 1st round have a higher success rate than those taken in later rounds, at what point in your post did you dispute that? You didn't all instead all you tried to do is show how some 1st round QB's have faired, exactly what does that have to do with what i said? You can show whatever you want but the fact remains that in the NFL today most QB's starting were taken in the 1st round, it's a fact, your arguments are weak and not based on what is said to you. Name the starter on every NFL team today along with the round he was drafted in the majority were taken in the 1st round and that is what i stated...nice try

I'm not trying to confuse you......I think you got confused on your own......

I am the one who made this statement........


"Based on this history it seems to be the smarter gamble to get a guy later in the 1st round or later than it does to trade up for a quarterback."

I said that and you replied with "You're wrong"......

You can't create your own defense in a argument. My argument was it makes more sense to trade down and take a quarterback later in the draft than it does to trade up for a quarterback like that's being discussed in this thread and like the Rams and Eagles did for their guys.
 

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I've learned that you will run into a lot of idiots in life. It pays to be able to identify them. You really think that these anti Dak posters are qualified? Lol!
Who said I think anybody was qualified? I didn't. We are all just regular fans for the most part so nobody has any credibility over the others so try again. I just think its lazy to think everybody that doesn't parrot your pov is anti Dak or whatever it is. That's an annoyng trend lazy people do on all sides of any debate. I think if you or the other side or correct you can prove it without the lazy discrediting people do.

I don't hate Dak just think he's Andy Dalton or Alex Smith Jr skills wise drafted into a better situation. I think Dallas should do him like the Chiefs did one of his football brothers Alex Smith and let the chips fall where they fall. If that's anti Dak or I'm a hater guilty as charged shrugs
 

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He has also got Terry Bradshaw, Deion Sanders, Troy Aikman, and many many more fooled then because they think he is a super bowl calliber QB.. Apparently you are much more knowledgeable than they are.. HAHAHAHA....:lmao::eek::eek::eek:
If he has them fooled than yep they fit what I was saying. I'm not more knowledgable than them but that doesn't mean they can't be wrong. Last I checked they aren't perfect so that logic is something a child would use. It doesn't make sense. Try again
 

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Yea, lets trade a borderline elite QB that is a locker room stud whom never gets hurt for an unknown commodity. Prescott is not unproven genius, the coaching staff and outdated schemes have been horrendous. Open your eyes man, Prescott is a top talent getting better each year.


“Borderline Elite” ? Lol....that’s the funniest thing I’ve read since Jerry said Garrett would get 5 coaching offers if he left Dallas. And by the way “genius”, your boy Dak is a proven commodity: he’s proven he is an average qb talent who is inconsistently inaccurate. And new coaching and schemes that get receivers open won’t matter because he’s proven he can miss open receivers and consistently throw above, behind, or too far ahead but not consistently in stride. As Aikman said, the first rule of qb club is you have to be accurate. If you can’t get the ball to where it needs to be accurately, nothing else matters. And that is the one thing Dak proves consistently. Borderline Elite....lol.
 

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I want a chance at winning a Super Bowl.. I’m not interested in paying the 10-16th best QB like he is top 3 in the league.

I don’t really care what all of the other stupid teams are doing..


He also played in a pro style offense in the best defensive conference by a mile in college football.

He can read defenses at a high level and on top of that he can run.

You call trading away Dak along with two #1’s to Cincinnati so you can draft a QB that’s not even the consensus number one QB as a chance at winning the Super Bowl? lol You’re mortgaging the teams future for a college QB who could end up being another Baker Mayfield, Jeff George, Tim Couch, Jameis Winston or some other number one overall QB that either went bust or never became a consistent NFL starter. You seem to think all the Cowboys have to do is replace Dak and problem solved! You’re pinning the entire 2019 season on him. You’re really lost if you think he was the issue. Have you looked at our defense? How are you going to fix that if you trade away two #1’s? We have issues on the DL and in the secondary.

We’re not going to win CRAP with a defense that gets manhandled upfront and can’t make critical stops or get takeaways. Offensively our run blocking wasn’t very good, which is one reason Dak had to put the ball up so often. If you trade Dak along with two # 1’s and the QB you select doesn’t become a bonafide franchise QB the Cowboys would be screwed for the next decade or more. Even if the QB pans out, if the defense doesn’t get a lot better we’re not going anywhere! The Cowboys won’t have the resources to fix the defense with the trade you want to make.
 

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I really don't know why it's so difficult to get his name right. I'm guessing it's because most of you guys only heard of him last month. :muttley:

It's Burrow, not Burrows. B-U-R-R-O-W.
 

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Who said I think anybody was qualified? I didn't. We are all just regular fans for the most part so nobody has any credibility over the others so try again. I just think its lazy to think everybody that doesn't parrot your pov is anti Dak or whatever it is. That's an annoyng trend lazy people do on all sides of any debate. I think if you or the other side or correct you can prove it without the lazy discrediting people do.

I don't hate Dak just think he's Andy Dalton or Alex Smith Jr skills wise drafted into a better situation. I think Dallas should do him like the Chiefs did one of his football brothers Alex Smith and let the chips fall where they fall. If that's anti Dak or I'm a hater guilty as charged shrugs
Lol!! Calling me lazy is like me calling you an idiot. Neither one is true, but it's easy to say.
 

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You call trading away Dak along with two #1’s to Cincinnati so you can draft a QB that’s not even the consensus number one QB as a chance at winning the Super Bowl? lol You’re mortgaging the teams future for a college QB who could end up being another Baker Mayfield, Jeff George, Tim Couch, Jameis Winston or some other number one overall QB that either went bust or never became a consistent NFL starter. You seem to think all the Cowboys have to do is replace Dak and problem solved! You’re pinning the entire 2019 season on him. You’re really lost if you think he was the issue. Have you looked at our defense? How are you going to fix that if you trade away two #1’s?

We have issues on the DL and in the secondary. We’re not going to win CRAP with a defense that gets manhandled upfront and can’t make critical stops or get takeaways. Offensively our run blocking wasn’t very good, which is one reason Dak had to put the ball up so often. If you trade Dak along with two # 1’s and the QB you select doesn’t become a bonafide franchise QB the Cowboys would be screwed for the next decade or more. Even if the QB pans out, if the defense doesn’t get a lot better we’re not going anywhere! The Cowboys won’t have the resources to fix the defense with the trade you want to make.


Dak was fine.. He was an asset when he was making very little. When you become the highest paid player in franchise history is when there is a problem.

The only validation for that contract is that other teams were stupid enough to pay their guys.
 

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Point #7....

Dak slobberers deflect, deflect, deflect... and then cry about Romo some more.

Point #7........they claim people cry about Romo....but in reality they are the one who keeps bringing up Antonio.

Point #8.......only thing they seem to be able to talk about is Romo and slobbering on another man........
 

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Dak was fine.. He was an asset when he was making very little. When you become the highest paid player in franchise history is when there is a problem.

The only validation for that contract is that other teams were stupid enough to pay their guys.
Stupid or smart. We will find out in a few years.
 

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Lol!! Calling me lazy is like me calling you an idiot. Neither one is true, but it's easy to say.
In this instance the lazy is true for you. It doesn’t mean you’re always lazy but like I said on this one yeah. Calling me an idiot if you feel that way can be true to you. Of course I disagree but end of the day who cares it’s just internet back and forth.
 

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You’re stuck with what’s left of a 43-year-old QB who you’ll be paying at least 30M per season. You’ll be lucky to get two good seasons out of him, then you’ll be stuck looking for another QB because the young QB you allowed to walk away has reached his ceiling, helping another team become a consistent playoff contender. Pity you!

But I got a Super Trophy! So nobody cares.
 

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Dak was fine.. He was an asset when he was making very little. When you become the highest paid player in franchise history is when there is a problem.

The only validation for that contract is that other teams were stupid enough to pay their guys.


What player on the team deserves to be the highest paid player in franchise history more than him? What player on the team is more important than him? Is your plan to get rid of a QB every four years after their contract is up, regardless how good they are to avoid having to make them the highest paid player in franchise history? How do you become a championship team by replacing your franchise QB with a cheaper, lesser option at QB? You’re saying other teams are stupid for paying their QBs. Are the Chiefs going to be stupid for paying Mahomes 40M?

If you were a Chiefs fan would you be screaming to trade him away for a boatload of draft picks so you can replace him with a cheaper, lesser QB? You don’t appear to want to pay any QB a lot of money regardless how good they are. As soon as they’re reaching their ceiling and are in line for a huge contract extension you’re ready to move on to a cheaper option. Seriously you should go into comedy. Nothing you say makes any logical sense but you sure do provide a lot of laughs. :laugh:
 
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