Trading up for Burrows makes sense

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What player on the team deserves to be the highest paid player in franchise history more than him? What player on the team is more important than him? Is your plan to get rid of a QB every four years after their contract is up, regardless how good they are to avoid having to make them the highest paid player in franchise history? How do you become a championship team by replacing them with a cheaper, lesser option at QB? You’re saying other teams are stupid for paying their QBs. Are the Chiefs going to be stupid for paying Mahomes 40M?

If you were a Chiefs fan would you be screaming to trade him away for a boatload of draft picks so you can replace him with a cheaper, lesser QB? You don’t appear to want to pay any QB a lot of money regardless how good they are. As soon as they’re reaching their ceiling and are in line for a huge contract extension you’re ready to move on to a cheaper option. Seriously you should go into comedy. Nothing you say makes any logical sense but you sure do provide a lot of laughs. :laugh:


Mahomes can get whatever he wants.. He’s the best QB in football and he won a Super Bowl. He earned it.

Dallas had 1 wildcard win on Dak’s Rookie deal. If Dak was a Super Bowl champion we could do the Joe Flacco dance and I’d be ok with it. Who wants to sign Joe Flacco with no Super Bowl though?
 

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You’re saying other teams are stupid for paying their QBs. Are the Chiefs going to be stupid for paying Mahomes 40M?

If you were a Chiefs fan would you be screaming to trade him away for a boatload of draft picks so you can replace him with a cheaper, lesser QB?

Mahomes just won a Super Bowl. His only playoff loss came on a day when he put up 31 points, the same amount he put up to win his ring. If Dak had a ring there would be no debate.

Dallas giving up 34 to Green Bay and 30 to the Rams - Dak's playoff losses - were not his fault. But the bottom line is QBs get the credit when they win and the blame when they lose. That's why they make the big bucks.
 

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Mahomes can get whatever he wants.. He’s the best QB in football and he won a Super Bowl. He earned it.

Dallas had 1 wildcard win on Dak’s Rookie deal. If Dak was a Super Bowl champion we could do the Joe Flacco dance and I’d be ok with it. Who wants to sign Joe Flacco with no Super Bowl though?

So you expected Dak to win a Super Bowl by his fourth season? He never got an opportunity to sit and learn, he was thrown to the wolves as a rookie. The Cowboys haven’t gotten past the divisional round of the playoffs in 25 years. Were you one of those who was ready to move on from Romo after the 2012 season when he was up for his huge contract extension? There’s a number of great QBs, some who are in the Hall of Fame who didn’t win a Super Bowl by their 4th season. Dak has never had a solid head coach with the Cowboys. You obviously can’t see it but all the arrows are pointing up with him. He’s on the brink of becoming a top-five QB and you’re ready to move on. You’d rather roll the dice on some college QB or a castoff who’s carrying a clipboard.
 

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So you expected Dak to win a Super Bowl by his fourth season? He never got an opportunity to sit and learn, he was thrown to the wolves as a rookie. The Cowboys haven’t gotten past the divisional round of the playoffs in 25 years. Were you one of those who was ready to move on from Romo after the 2012 season when he was up for his huge contract extension? There’s a number of great QBs, some who are in the Hall of Fame who didn’t win a Super Bowl by their 4th season. Dak has never had a solid head coach with the Cowboys. You obviously can’t see it but all the arrows are pointing up with him. He’s on the brink of becoming a top-five QB and you’re ready to move on. You’d rather roll the dice on some college QB or a castoff who’s carrying a clipboard.

Most of these guys are going to the Super Bowl and even winning it on their rookie deal.

If he is going to get paid like them you would like to see him have success like them.

I wanted the Romo extension.. At the time I didn’t understand how things work.. Looking back it was obviously the wrong move to sign him to that much with no prior success.
 

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Mahomes just won a Super Bowl. His only playoff loss came on a day when he put up 31 points, the same amount he put up to win his ring. If Dak had a ring there would be no debate.

Dallas giving up 34 to Green Bay and 30 to the Rams - Dak's playoff losses - were not his fault. But the bottom line is QBs get the credit when they win and the blame when they lose. That's why they make the big bucks.

You expected Dak to have a ring by his fourth season with Jason Garrett as his head coach? Go look how long it took some of the great Hall of Fame QBs to win their first ring. The Cowboys have only had two QBs in their 60 year history to win a Super Bowl. I’m telling you right now the QB we have gives us the best chance to win a Super Bowl since Troy Aikman. He’s got all the intangibles and leadership to get it done.
 

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Most of these guys are going to the Super Bowl and even winning it on their rookie deal.

Most of these guys as in who? The Cowboys problem isn’t the QB it’s the team and the way it’s run. A lot of it’s been the coaching.
 

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Most of these guys as in who?

Wilson, Mahomes, Goff, Wentz’s team won it so they can afford that risk. Pretty much all the guys that people say he should be paid like.
 

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If the Cowboys could trade up for Joe Burrow instead of signing Dak it makes better sense.
Burrows would then be under a rookie contract for five years, with a new and capable head coach in Mike McCarthy, and Kellen Moore leading the offense. The Cowboys would save big money compared to giving a big contract to a still unproven Dak Prescott.
The offensive line is still strong, and Zeke is still powerful.
In the short term and the long, trading up for Burrows is a no-brainer.
And signing Case Keenum would give them solid depth for a championship run by 2021.
It makes good sense every way you look at it.

No, it makes no sense at all. This is ridiculous.
 

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Yea, lets trade a borderline elite QB that is a locker room stud whom never gets hurt for an unknown commodity. Prescott is not unproven genius, the coaching staff and outdated schemes have been horrendous. Open your eyes man, Prescott is a top talent getting better each year.
Not that I don't want to keep Dak, but I’ve never heard anyone call a player a “locker room stud”. Lmao
 

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Wilson, Mahomes, Goff, Wentz’s team won it so they can afford that risk. Pretty much all the guys that people say he should be paid like.

You could only come up with three QBs in the last decade that led their teams to the Super Bowl in their first four seasons. All three of them were drafted higher than Dak and all three of them have had better coaching. Would you rather have Goff than Dak? Are you going to tell me the season he had in 2019 was better than Dak’s? Only 22 TD passes with 16 INT’s and a passer rating of 86.5. Was that worth what he got paid? Sure he got the Rams to the Super Bowl in 2018 and played like crap!
 

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This thread is at 13 pages.

Thirteen. Pages.


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You could only come up with three QBs in the last decade that led their teams to the Super Bowl in their first four seasons. All three of them were drafted higher than Dak and all three of them have had better coaching. Would you rather have Goff than Dak? Are you going to tell me the season he had in 2019 was better than Dak’s? Only 22 TD passes with 16 INT’s and a passer rating of 86.5. Was that worth what he got paid? Sure he got the Rams to the Super Bowl in 2018 and played like crap!

You’re changing the discussion but whatever.

Goff is not that good. He was overpaid and not worth it.

I’m not validating our stupid decision because the Rams made a stupid decision.

As far as I’m concerned the Rams are laying the blueprint for what not to do but we are following right in their footsteps.
 

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Boom! Trade accepted! This is a vacuum and noone else could possibly bid higher, or has the goods to do so!

I didn’t say it was a done deal. Just asked why people are acting like it’s a Madden trade.
 

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If anything, Dak has proven that he cannot beat good teams. His record on this is pretty clear. He plays great against weaker teams, but struggles when the pressure is on against playoff caliber teams.
So, I guess he is in fact a proven commodity.
We know what we don't have with Dak; we don't have a quarterback who will fight and claw to make the Cowboys a better team. He will go along for the ride vs teams under .500 and play great.
But he's proven that he is not the guy.
Your argument against Dak is fine. Speak it and preach it all you want, but don’t dodge the questions people ask about the post you made. You can’t make a post advocating for trading to #1 overall and then just suck behind tired, repeated 50 times a day, opinions about Dak

how exactly do you plan to get #1 overall? I don’t think you have the slightest idea.

tiu should have just posted another Dak thread and titled it “Dak Sucks And Here’s Why”
 

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how exactly do you plan to get #1 overall? I don’t think you have the slightest idea.

Nigerian Prince emails. "Just wire your #1 pick and the ten billion dollars will be sent to you".
 

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If the Cowboys could trade up for Joe Burrow instead of signing Dak it makes better sense.
Burrows would then be under a rookie contract for five years, with a new and capable head coach in Mike McCarthy, and Kellen Moore leading the offense. The Cowboys would save big money compared to giving a big contract to a still unproven Dak Prescott.
The offensive line is still strong, and Zeke is still powerful.
In the short term and the long, trading up for Burrows is a no-brainer.
And signing Case Keenum would give them solid depth for a championship run by 2021.
It makes good sense every way you look at it.

Burrrows has proven absolutely zero and had one good college season out. There was a reason he bounced around college. But sure, lets mortgage the future like the Saints did for Ricky Williams. How many can't miss QBs have passed through this league that did absolutely nothing? Too many to name.
 

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You’re changing the discussion but whatever.

Goff is not that good. He was overpaid and not worth it.

I’m not validating our stupid decision because the Rams made a stupid decision.

As far as I’m concerned the Rams are laying the blueprint for what not to do but we are following right in their footsteps.

So they were supposed to allow Goff to walk after using the number one overall pick on him just a few seasons earlier? Just let him go and bring in a cheaper QB? He was playing well when they re-signed him. You and I are just wasting our time with each other. I see the world as being round and you see it as flat.
 

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I'm not trying to confuse you......I think you got confused on your own......

I am the one who made this statement........


"Based on this history it seems to be the smarter gamble to get a guy later in the 1st round or later than it does to trade up for a quarterback."

I said that and you replied with "You're wrong"......

You can't create your own defense in a argument. My argument was it makes more sense to trade down and take a quarterback later in the draft than it does to trade up for a quarterback like that's being discussed in this thread and like the Rams and Eagles did for their guys.


You avoid answering questions it's really that simple. So lets try again. I said the Cowboys should trade Dak and 2 first round picks for the Bengals 1st round pick and take Burrow because the Bengals were inept enough to do it, you replied the Bengals were not inept and made the argument that in the last 20 years they were much better than we were. I then preceded to show you with numbers that you were wrong and in the last 20 years we were a better organization, you tried to deflect and make some silly arguments about how that's debatable because they had less talent than we did to which i replied isn't that part of being inept? You avoided answering. You then tried to switch topics and talk about QB's namely Dak and how it would be stupid to change him out for a rookie QB, to which i reponded by saying isn't that the same situation that happenned to Dak as a rookie so if Dak could succeed why couldn't Burrow (the probable number one pick in the draft). You didn't respond but then moved on trying to make an argument about how it would be better to spend some draft picks on QB's in lower rounds, i replied that in the history of the NFL QB's drafted in the 1st round have a much better sucess rate than QB's taken in later rounds but instead of trying to prove that wrong all you did was look at the QB's drafted in the 1st round the last few years and critique them basically proving my point because they were drafted in the 1st round and became starters Duh!. QB's taken in the NFL in the 1st round have a better chance of success than QB's taken in the later rounds so again i ask you how many Starting QB's in the NFL this past year were 1st round draft picks. I know the answer but why don't you spend some time looking it up because the number is alot higher than the draft picks taken in later rounds who were starters this past season. Your theory abpout trading down to find a QB is flat out wrong and has been proven in the past. If you are looking for a QB to be your starter you are looking at the top guys who usually go in the 1st round (they don't all succeed but that is your best chance of finding one) you look to the lower rounds when you have a guy and you are looking for a backup or someone to maybe create some competition. YOU are smart enough to know this and your argument/discusion with me all day today is based on the fact that you called the Cowboys a more inept organization the past 20 years than the Bengals (without checking your facts) and you had it thrown back in your face. Seems to me you didn't like that
 
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If the goal is to make absolutely horrible decisions, then yes, trading up for Burrows makes sense. It actually makes a ton of sense if that’s the goal
 
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