Twitter: Trey Wingo said it best about Dak and any upcoming draft QBs

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Football player acquisition and drafting is a damned if you do and don't proposition exacerbated by free agency and the collective bargaining agreement. We also forget that in many instances there are 31 other teams in the mix of pursuing free agents and college prospects in which draft position is a factor as well. Retaining a star running back by rewarding them with a hefty long term contract also depends how your team sits talent and position wise. It seems star receivers and pass rushers cost as much as running backs even some starting quarterbacks these days.

I think commensurate compensation for Dak Prescott would be not to exceed $ 35 million per year also factoring in the endorsements playing for arguably the most visible team in the NFL. Optionally, $ 33 million a year plus significant incentives if he reaches mutually agreed seasonal and post-seasonal performance objectives relative to acceptable supporting cast performance on offense, defense and possibly special teams. Just my thoughts and I do like your overall perspective.
Totally agree with your contract proposal for Dak. It would be enough for both he and the team.
 

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Not quite the same as Romo...

Romo had been with the Cowboys for 10 seasons when he signed his 6 year, 108M contract extension with 55M guaranteed in 2013. A lot of fans didn't like that contract and they had a point after going 6-10, 8-8 and 8-8 in 3 consecutive seasons. 2013 was another 8-8 season and so the end results were no different with a happier Romo. I understand the market value part of it, but that contract didn't help the Cowboys go any farther or get past the divisional round of the playoffs. Maybe Jerry should consider the past more as a reference...but it's his money whatever.

Wasn't Jason Garrett the head coach? Could have sworn Romo only played QB and coaching responsibilities were given to someone else...

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I see, with all your experience from your couch you have sharpened and honed you mind reading skills. Is there a special trick or something that you do that you can tell us all so we all can develop that skill?
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Stop babbling nonsense talk football and give us your rock solid examples that the team did not quit on Garrett

How about an example like how he totally energized the Defense by trotting the kicker out early in the game to attempt a long fg that was missed and left them with a short field to defend

expound on how great that was for team moral . The special skill you need to develop is putting some facts down to support your opinion
 
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You guys just say this because it sounds good but as of right now who are the Cowboys losing or value? If they lose anyone it’s because they wanted to lose them.
Its gonna start with Byron and Quinn. Could be Amari too. But one thing is for sure if Dak is signed to big money it's going to be the defense that suffers because they will want to continue to give Dak ever chance to succeed like they have in the past.
 

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Wasn't Jason Garrett the head coach? Could have sworn Romo only played QB and coaching responsibilities were given to someone else...

:huh:

Not was I was getting at in that post.
I was saying that a big contract extension to your QB is not going to improve a team's chances of winning the SB just because he is happier financially.
 

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Everyone is worried about the contract. It’s what happens when you have a franchise QB. They are all over payed right now. We have a 4th round pick that is putting up the same performance as 1st round picks from that same draft class. We got spoiled with paying him 4th round money. Heck 1 year he made less than 1 million. He didn’t complain. He went to work and scored some chunky soup money on the side. We weren’t able to cash in while he was on the rookie deal. If we did get further in the playoffs or even the SB some still wouldn’t want to pay him. It’s simply time to pay the man. All the FO can do is get off as cheap as we can. Give him the 3 year deal and if we can get another QB then do it and develop him. After Daks contract if the other QB can out play him then try to get what you can for Dak.
 

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Until you have some rock solid proof that " 90% of the team give up on their coach" it's just your opinion and that and $3 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

And the only trade I recall with the dolphins was a 6th round pick for Quinn who led the Cowboys in sacks last season. Your little rant about that doesn't make sense.
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My bad on that we didnt trade we got nothing and Taco had as many sacks as our Star D line man . No rant we let top talent escape in favor of a washed up coach who made it through a few more games and wont be coaching here anymore
 

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You're forgetting Romo's first big contract in October of 2007, halfway through the 2007 season and barely a full year with Romo as a starting QB since the midway season point of 2006. It didn't hurt the team then. The problem with his second big contract in 2013 is that the whole Oline was decimated and in need of being fixed with better Olinemen, which it started to with the drafting of Tyron Smith, followed by Martin and Frederick. Big contracts for your stud QB can work if you draft well and smartly in each draft. The most important piece to any successful team is their QB, not their RB or some other player. That's where Jerry messed up recently.
The problem with Romo's 2nd big contract was Romo.
He was hurt.
He couldn't practice and even when he was sharp the rest of the offense wasn't because the other guys didn't have him to practice with.


The difference between Romo and Dak is body type.
Romo was a fairly normal human being physically.
It's why he went undrafted.
He's maybe 6'1" and 210 today.
He probably played up a bit to 220-225 at peaks.

Dak is simply as bigger dude. He's much thicker in the legs and carries at least 20 more pounds of muscle.

All that said, Dallas had no real choice.
You don't not pay a franchise QB.
You pay him and do everything you can to win. They did and came up short in key moments.
The Cowboys beat the GHiants twice int he regular season fairly handily and lost on a tragically bad play by a WR in the playoffs... that Giants team de-throned the undefeated Pats to win a SB....
Then you had the Dez catch game which was an appalling call. The ball NEVER touched the friggin ground outside Dez's control.

Two legit shots to win titles are definitely worth paying out franchise QB money.
The alternative is be Cleveland.
Go get a top QB early in draft and be everyone's next year team for a few seasons before starting over.

Dallas fans are both unrewarded but also spoiled.
They have only seen one year of bad football when Romo was out all year.
Having a franchise QB does that for you and they went from one directly to another.
 

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The problem with Romo's 2nd big contract was Romo.
He was hurt.
He couldn't practice and even when he was sharp the rest of the offense wasn't because the other guys didn't have him to practice with.


The difference between Romo and Dak is body type.
Romo was a fairly normal human being physically.
It's why he went undrafted.
He's maybe 6'1" and 210 today.
He probably played up a bit to 220-225 at peaks.

Dak is simply as bigger dude. He's much thicker in the legs and carries at least 20 more pounds of muscle.

All that said, Dallas had no real choice.
You don't not pay a franchise QB.
You pay him and do everything you can to win. They did and came up short in key moments.
The Cowboys beat the GHiants twice int he regular season fairly handily and lost on a tragically bad play by a WR in the playoffs... that Giants team de-throned the undefeated Pats to win a SB....
Then you had the Dez catch game which was an appalling call. The ball NEVER touched the friggin ground outside Dez's control.

Two legit shots to win titles are definitely worth paying out franchise QB money.
The alternative is be Cleveland.
Go get a top QB early in draft and be everyone's next year team for a few seasons before starting over.

Dallas fans are both unrewarded but also spoiled.
They have only seen one year of bad football when Romo was out all year.
Having a franchise QB does that for you and they went from one directly to another.
Well said! :thumbup:
 

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They are simply still butthurt because Dak dethroned their idol and forced him to watch Dak tear it up his rookie year while sitting on the bench and forced to retire afterwards.

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They are simply still butthurt because Dak dethroned their idol and forced him to watch Dak tear it up his rookie year while sitting on the bench and forced to retire afterwards.

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Yes and watched Dak Prescott butcher the last drive against the Packers in the 2016 play offs when he brainlessly spiked the ball with the game at his mercy.

The Packers D were gassed, their secondary consisted of guys off the street, the game was there for the taking yet we spiked the ball giving them time to recharge the batteries, regroup, sort out their defensive play calling and ultimately provide Rodgers with enough time to win the game...Smart.

A rookie QB has never won the Superbowl yet the powers that be decided to leave out Romo...arguably cost us reaching the Superbowl as we really had the roster that season given how amazing the offensive line played along with home field advantage.

Yet some people enjoy the team being unsuccessful so yes let's celebrate.

Some so called fans are most odd.
 

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But here's the problem. One can conclude that Dak has a ceiling and he's hit it. So now what you are weighing here is taking a chance on a rookie with a high ceiling OR paying Dak an elite contract and he's not an elite QB.

Sure it's risky but it's a question this team should be asking themselves. They should not be afraid of making the tough call here. Note, I am not saying you dump Prescott for sure.......... I am just saying that this isn't as easy as you think especially when you factor into account the fact that we might be staring at making Prescott the highest paid QB in the league.
 

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I was in favor of letting Romo go in 2013. Looking at the rise in the salary cap going forward, giving Dak 36 million a season at 115 million guaranteed is actually a bargain. It will get done.

It is not a bargain.

Stop.

So was signing Wentz for $32MM a real bargain for Philly? Kirk Cousins at like $28MM is a downright steal I guess.
 

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Its gonna start with Byron and Quinn. Could be Amari too. But one thing is for sure if Dak is signed to big money it's going to be the defense that suffers because they will want to continue to give Dak ever chance to succeed like they have in the past.
But as of now they can afford Dak and Amari. Quinn and Byron too. Them leaving has nothing to do with the money they are giving Dak. It’s like when we got rid of Hitchens. They wanted him back at a certain price. If Byron wants to be the highest paid corner in the league than they will let him walk. Has nothing to do with Dak.
 
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